Prof. Abdiweli Gaas calls for a responsible media in Somalia

[Cotton Eyed Joe]

A lot of news outlets were reporting fake news that UAE was being expelled by Puntland and stopping their training programme with the Puntland Maritime Police Force.

http://puntlandi.com/dhagayso-shir-...aliyana-xiriir-taariikhiya-baa-kala-dhexeeya/

 

[Cotton Eyed Joe]

 

[Cotton Eyed Joe]

A senior official from the United Arab Emirates arrived in Bossaso on Saturday to meet with the president of Puntland and discuss issues related to the deteriorating relationship between the TFG and the Arab Emirates, but that was not possible because President Gas was in Armo for Beeldaje Mohamed Beeldaaje Ismail Beeldaaje Haji Abdullahi.

According to sources close to the Puntland government, Radio Daljir confirmed the President's visit with the United Arab Emirates last night in Bossaso and the Presidency.

In the morning, Radio Daljir reports that the two sides agreed to resolving the conflict in the disputed relationship between the TFG and the United Arab Emirates and the United Arab Emirates (PMPF).

https://www.daljir.com/puntland-iyo-imaaraadka-carabta-oo-saaka-bossaso-ku-ballansan/

 

[KULTA]

Kkkk Prof. Gaas "Muxuu ahaa wariyaha magaciisa? Bahdilaadii ugu weyneyd ee ku dhacday Maruf, xitaa magaciisa lama yaqaan kkkkk

"Harun Maruf waxa uu qorayay, oo beenta ah. Oo uu ka dhigay news sax ah oo uu source fiican ka helay. Wax jira ma ahan waxaasi" - Gaas kkkk

Harun Maruf the beenaale: Pres Gaas says those media reports were "incorrect".

:siilaanyolaugh:

 

[DR OSMAN]

So it's fake? Farmaajo is the real deal you dont get millions coming out in the streets if you aint plus he don't build his own wealth either, we shouldn't be going against him!!! Waan bahan ahay bakhti looma cuno

 

[CangeeroBear]

Gaas has a lot of money invested in UAE .They allow puntland to finish projects even with widespread corruption.Also it allows him to slip out of puntland without having to worry of criticisms about "lack of investment".

 

[Cotton Eyed Joe]

Gaas has a lot of money invested in UAE .They allow puntland to finish projects even with widespread corruption.Also it allows him to slip out of puntland without having to worry of criticisms about "lack of investment".

What widespread corruption surrounds UAE's involvement in Puntland?

 

[Cotton Eyed Joe]

So it's fake? Farmaajo is the real deal you dont get millions coming out in the streets if you aint plus he don't build his own wealth either, we shouldn't be going against him!!! Waan bahan ahay bakhti looma cuno

Will Farmajo pay for the PMPF?

 

[CangeeroBear]

What widespread corruption surrounds UAE's involvement in Puntland?

Not in UAEs involvement , although no doubt there are a lot of under the table deals with puntland officials and UAE.Corruption in the region is ultimately enabled by the government which is built on semi extractive institutions.Whereby the government has supported family ties first and "regional" ties second.This isn't surprising and will continue indefinitely.

 

[Cotton Eyed Joe]

Not in UAEs involvement , although no doubt there are a lot of under the table deals with puntland officials and UAE.Corruption in the region is ultimately enabled by the government which is built on semi extractive institutions.Whereby the government has supported family ties first and "regional" ties second.This isn't surprising and will continue indefinitely.

UAE's support to Puntland precedes Abdiweli Gaas and the SFG, it started in 2010 when they funded the PMPF. You are purposely trying to make it look like Abdiweli's personal interests is why UAE is in Puntland.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Will Farmajo pay for the PMPF?

Those weapons they are giving you is to enable you to fight other Somalis in the future, it's in the pretext of terrorism but has far further objective. The UAE point is, I'll give you weapons so your a UAE stooge in the country to pressure your govt from steering off course with the Saudi coalition foreign policy objectives.

Your just a stooge basically for them or a UAE mole within the nation and you take it because you have tribal worries from other clans and the other clans do the same and in the end achieves an outcome where you are always going to be dictated to from outside nations and remain being a poor, fragile, divided nation and your people fleeing to be libyan sex slaves.

All over what? cause your tribally worried about other clans and you get a little nice bonus to set up your houses and future businesses? while your people are just known as those african refugees

 

[DR OSMAN]

In Somalia we need to ask ourselves is our personal interests of buying homes and businesses worth trading our people for? do we want to keep handing to every generation after us a worse country then the one given to us?

Do we want to remain tribally at each other throats? if we do then our situation is always going to remain the same in the end and we will be to busy on ourselves while other nations are growing to become powerful nations, all for what? tribal grievances and worries? the question we need to ask deep down is? is this all worth it?

 

[CangeeroBear]

UAE's support to Puntland precedes Abdiweli Gaas and the SFG, it started in 2010 when they funded the PMPF. You are purposely trying to make it look like Abdiweli's personal interests is why UAE is in Puntland.

It does precede it however this doesn't mean its to Gaas's interests to extend their stay and rely on doner money.Doners allow a flow of money without criticisms.it's not hard then to make the logical conclusion that aid coupled with corruption within puntland allows elites to entrench systems which benefit them.

 

[Cotton Eyed Joe]

Those weapons they are giving you is to enable you to fight other Somalis in the future, it's in the pretext of terrorism but has far further objective. The UAE point is, I'll give you weapons so your a UAE stooge in the country to pressure your govt from steering off course with the Saudi coalition foreign policy objectives.

Your just a stooge basically for them or a UAE mole within the nation and you take it because you have tribal worries from other clans and the other clans do the same and in the end achieves an outcome where you are always going to be dictated to from outside nations and remain being a poor, fragile, divided nation and your people fleeing to be libyan sex slaves.

All over what? cause your tribally worried about other clans and you get a little nice bonus to set up your houses and future businesses?

None of what you said is true. Tribes within Puntland has fought other tribes since 2010 as Somalis do due to grazing rights and such but the PMPF or any Puntland authority is not involved. This is a state institution is supersedes any tribal notions you have and the force is made up of many different tribes. What "other" Somalis is there to fight in Bari? You are talking out of your ass here.

You're the type of guy who wants to wait for anything from Xamar instead of working for it yourself. Farmajo is not capable of managing his own capital let alone other regions of Somalia let alone fund them. Now we hear that the Somali government reversed its decision? Where would that have left Puntland if it had gone along?

The PMPF is a naval force, you would rather our waters are left for illegal fishers than a force setup that is especially trained to patrol our seas all because you love Farmajo, nijaas nijaas dhalay kuwaan camal baa nagu soo dhex duunta.

 

[Cotton Eyed Joe]

It does precede it however this doesn't mean its to Gaas's interests to extend their stay and rely on doner money.Doners allow a flow of money without criticisms.it's not hard then to make the logical conclusion that aid coupled with corruption within puntland allows elites to entrench systems which benefit them.

Your logic is flawed. You are conflating politicians interest with state interest. Whether someone personally benefits shouldn't deter Puntland's state interests.

 

[RasCanjero-]

No limit to his shamelessness.

Wonder why he hasn't condemned the actions of Xamar when they confiscated that money.

 

[DR OSMAN]

None of what you said is true. Tribes within Puntland has fought other tribes since 2010 as Somalis do due to grazing rights and such but the PMPF or any Puntland authority is not involved. This is a state institution is supersedes any tribal notions you have and the force is made up of many different tribes. What "other" Somalis is there to fight in Bari? You are talking out of your ass here.

You're the type of guy who wants to wait for anything from Xamar instead of working for it yourself. Farmajo is not capable of managing his own capital let alone other regions of Somalia let alone fund them. Now we hear that the Somali government reversed its decision? Where would that have left Puntland if it had gone along?

The PMPF is a naval force, you would rather our waters are left for illegal fishers than a force setup that is especially trained to patrol our seas all because you love Farmajo, nijaas nijaas dhalay kuwaan camal baa nagu soo dhex duunta.

The UAE obviously needs a reason to give you weapon due to the arms embargo and it's under the pretext of piracy before but now it's switched to terrorists in galgala which are funded by business-men in Qatar. The Gulfies have a 3 prong approach.

They UAE use THEIR own govt to begin headhunting in Somalia and install moles in all govts within Somalia(those moles have personal or tribal interests that are greater and used against them), they send in their charities to create 'mind altering' projects such as mosques, schools, madrassah, orphanages to get to the young because their easily programmed to do what you want when their 5 up untill 20, this creates a supply of new Wahabiyah moles in the future.

The Qataris use their business-men to actively fund terrorist groups to keep the fight up on the govt as a present 'tactic'. Notice where ATAM was given asylum? he reported to them that's why and same as all those filthy shababis.

These gulf losers are fighting against each other basically and we are the ones paying for it in blood as their worried they lose influence within Somalia.

None of what you see in the nation just pops up out of the sky and needs to be organically grown. You assume things just happen in one day and there was no starting point anywhere.

This is well established and trump called them out on it in his foreign trip when he went to Saudi Arabia.

 

[DR OSMAN]

I mean honestly, name me one Qatar project in Somalia? it's not there and Somalia govt is using Qatar because they know it's them who is behind these terrorists as they all go reside there when they retire. It's in our interest to be friends with Qatar because we need to get them to stop creating these terrorists, the UAE cannot help us with that. We can easily switch where our business-men go for trading to India or China.

That's not a problem and as for their weapons, they can go and shove it, we don't want it nor need it for the trouble we get from it.

 

[CangeeroBear]

Your logic is flawed. You are conflating politicians interest with state interest. Whether someone personally benefits shouldn't deter Puntland's state interests.

My logic is far from Lawes, state interested are nothing but a mirage of amateur analysis , state interests are all subtly in favour of personal interests.Advanced states such as America and the Uk tie state interests with personal interests, after if I want to stay in power in America I need a more robust economic system etc.In most of Africa which don't tie personal interests with state interests we acquire corruption and seemingly destructive policies.In puntland , although I'm no expert as of now, the personal interests of Gaas would be ties to certain top tier people of top tier clans.Consequently most have to be bribed etc to maintain a state which allows extraction by these "influential people".So you see when you say personal interests and state interests , for any state the latter is a special case of the former.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Qatar is behind the terrorism in Somalia, well the short-term one we see. The other gulfies want a Saudi compliant Somalian Govt. While we have Turkey sitting there who isn't compliant to them creates a conflict of interest.

So we chose that's in our interest and most likely due to turkey influence to side with Qatar and they promised to resolve the terror campaign they are responsible for and by doing this, we remove all Saudi aligned coalition from the nation, which includes the UAE. The backlash could be livestock bans and our business-men banned from dubai, both of which are not critical and new partners can be sought.

Why you think the qataris are doing this? they want Somalia to eventually join their side of the GULF WAR. So we are going to join Turkey-Qatar-Somalia wing, which will be a separate wing in this Sunni disaster, while Saudi-Egypt-UAE are the other wing. The Sunni faction has broken down into Two wings. While the shia coalition remain one unified wing run from Tehran.