President of SSC in Mogadishu

[Awdalite]

Every day that goes by makes it clearer that Somaliland's biggest miscalculation when it declared itself independent in 1991 was claiming that independence on the basis of the 1960 borders and not on Isaaq clan borders.

Somaliland was left making an incoherent argument in favor of secession i.e invoking the Kacaan government's ethnic cleansing campaign as the basis. This never made sense given that ~45% of those within the 1960 borders were never targets of violence, why do they also have to secede from Somalia?

Now, 32 years later, it is impossible to do 180 turn and argue in favor of a clan based Isaaq secession. The momentum of the 1960 borders argument makes such a turn impossible. Isaaq will be re-incorporated into Somalia in some manner. They gambled everything on seceding with all of British Somaliland and lost.

The lesson: When things go your way, don't go for 100% of what is possible, leave some gas in the tank for the ride home.

I suspect that most of the Somaliland political establishment already know that it is now near to impossible to pursue independence based on the colonial borders. They are more than happy now to deal with Mogadishu. The masses will most likely not be told anything and will continue drinking the kool aid for as long as the dream can be marketed. It's actually quite the irony because Biixi decorated himself as the far right hard man of SL and he has pretty much capitulated sovereignty to Djibouti and Mogadishu.

 

[Abdisamad]

Where does Maakhir stand in all of this? Do you think they will eventually be absorbed fully into one of these 2 states or will they be a stand alone maamul goboleed?

They should join ssc to make it bigger

 

[Abdisamad]

Kulahaa send us troops.

We have no troops to spare, our boys are guarding the borders of ssc against the filthy terrorist secessionists.

 

[Abdisamad]

You want Hiil Darood?

Same nigga who bounced on us at the peak of the conflict to enjoy subag & suqaar

 

[Ozark]

Rumor has that HSM wants the 17 SSC MPs to vote against Deni and firdhiye wants to bring part of ceerigaabo under SSC control.

Prez Firdhiye should make demands without conditions set on him. For what? Driving a wedge between Firdhiye and PL will not happen, idk why they’d even ask. Plus it’s not like HSM can do anything about Ceeri.

 

[FBIsomalia]

Kulahaa send us troops.

That guy reflect real HG, those here living in west has no idea what is going in Somalia. Today Puntland PSF in South Mudug in his request before 2 years to be buffer zone from Alkabaab iyo Sacaad.

SSC will not join until SL declare peace.

 

[Ozark]

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

I suspect that most of the Somaliland political establishment already know that it is now near to impossible to pursue independence based on the colonial borders. They are more than happy now to deal with Mogadishu. The masses will most likely not be told anything and will continue drinking the kool aid for as long as the dream can be marketed. It's actually quite the irony because Biixi decorated himself as the far right hard man of SL and he has pretty much capitulated sovereignty to Djibouti and Mogadishu.

You can’t fool all the people all the time. A significant portion of Isaaq have come to the realization that secession is impossible. This was not the case in Jan 2023.

Some smart people like Cabdulqadir Jirde could see the writing on the wall in 2020. He kept bringing up how important it is for Somaliland to have all clans on board and that the elite need to create a Somaliland identity outside of the xasuuq narrative. When discussing the elite, neither he nor his interlocutors bring up the fact that 13/14 Garaads and the Gadabursi Ugaas are totally opposed to secession. Crazy that even those Somalilanders who were smart enough to be pessimistic did not bring up this massive issue.

Massive hubris.

 

[Hilmaam]

Meeting foreign dignitaries

 

[Aurelian]

Meeting foreign dignitaries

Who is laughing now.

I hope the SSC make Warsengeli join as soon as possible and cooperate with the chinese.

 

[Hilmaam]

 

[Hilmaam]

first time I’ve seen fgs mention SSC

 

[Enlightenednomad]

first time I’ve seen fgs mention SSC

Looks like Hassan Dhiiqo has turned his back on Somaliland. Full house there too with the chief of Damul Jadiid Farah Abdulkadir, the interior minister, Timacade, and PM Hamdi Barre there as well.

 

[Enlightenednomad]

Look at mooryanta Ceyr packed in a room like sardines to visit SSC President Firdhiye's residence in Xamar.

 

[Aurelian]

Look at mooryanta Ceyr packed in a room like sardines to visit SSC President Firdhiye's residence in Xamar.

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SSC lasAnod become like pilgrimage for some, and Firdhiye as Messiahs, they want to touch him, maybe they get some baraka and wisdom to fight AS.

 

[FBIsomalia]

SSC lasAnod become like pilgrimage for some, and Firdhiye as Messiahs, they want to touch him, maybe they get some baraka and wisdom to fight AS.

Thats the point!!. They want SSC army to be part of Galnus fight against Alkabaab.

Lets hope SSC didnt fail for those HG.

 

[Ismacilssc]

That’s up to Reer Maakhir.

We want to become fully apart of ssc state that's it

 

[Ismacilssc]

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I suspect that most of the Somaliland political establishment already know that it is now near to impossible to pursue independence based on the colonial borders. They are more than happy now to deal with Mogadishu. The masses will most likely not be told anything and will continue drinking the kool aid for as long as the dream can be marketed. It's actually quite the irony because Biixi decorated himself as the far right hard man of SL and he has pretty much capitulated sovereignty to Djibouti and Mogadishu.

I agree no more independence dreaming join the team or get recked

 

[Hilmaam]

Gets asked question on RX who got deported from region . Answers that they were scape goat for killings carried out by somaliland and that they are to come back to their land in SSC.

 

[Hilmaam]

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