Pre-Colonial Nigeria vs Pre-Colonial Somalia Cavalry

[maryan223]

exp this then

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

The only group that put up a good fight was the Igbo, but they were betrayed. The Europeans had already established bases and forts on Nigerian soil as early as the 1700's, the dervish movement was quelled in 1920, thanks to a British RAF aerial bombardment campaign, the first of its kind on the African continent.

Nigeria was having it's resources extracted while the other was fighting Britain, France and Italy - backed by Ethiopia - and still managed to put up a fight post WWI, all this while being afflicted with warring Sultunates and kingdoms.

And shoutout to the Baule tribe of Southern Ghana, they gave the French hell.

The Italians also bombed Majeerteenia and brought along eritrean troops along with soldiers called dubbats from a Somali clan that had beef with an MJ sultan. They suffered defeats when it was on the ground.

Both the British and the Italian had to use aerial bombing and a lot of backup to win, they could not do it with man to man, ground battles.


Bombardment of Majeerteenia:

This was the Prince Of Majeerteenia, Hersi Boqor, who led the forces in Majeerteenia. In the Sultanate of Hobyo it was Cumar Samatar who was leading the freedom fighters, no pic of him yet.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

The Dahomey Amazon Warriors of Benin are amazing, that's the only West African force I have heard of that is awe and fear inspiring.

The Mino trained with intense physical exercise. They learnt survival skills and indifference to pain and death, storming acacia-thorn defenses in military exercises and executing prisoners.[6] Discipline was emphasised.

In 1861, Italian priest Francesco Borghero described an army exercise where thousands of women scaled 120m-high thorny acacia bushes barefoot without a whimper. In 1889, French colonial administrator Jean Bayol described witnessing one young Amazon approach a captive as part of her training. "[She] walked jauntily up, swung her sword three times with both hands, then calmly cut the last flesh that attached the head to the trunk… She then squeezed the blood off her weapon and swallowed it."

This is Acacia Thorn and they would climb defences made of this without flinching.

 

[abdi142#]

Horses were alien to west Africa prior to European colonisation in the area.

nah west Africa had a lot of empires with horses. The sokoto caliphate, hausa kingdom, mail empire and many many had horses. How did you expect those people to trade with other people around the sahel? Do you think its by walking?

 

[World]

Horses can’t even survive in West Africa below the Sahel, tsetse fly kills them. They had to be imported from Arabs across the Sahara for expensive prices(up to 30 black slaves for a good Barbary horse), and at least a third of these horses died within a year as they had no resistance to sleeping sickness. Horses were a perishable good that needed to be constantly replaced, so it led to a cycle of West Africans raiding and enslaving each other for Arabs in order to buy slaves.

You can’t compare that with Somalis who have their own native horse breeds that thrive on our land, my own sub clan could probably field more cavalry than entire west African kingdoms.

 

[JarutheGreat]

Horses were alien to west Africa prior to European colonisation in the area.

Horses can’t even survive in West Africa below the Sahel, tsetse fly kills them. They had to be imported from Arabs across the Sahara for expensive prices(up to 30 black slaves for a good Barbary horse), and at least a third of these horses died within a year as they had no resistance to sleeping sickness. Horses were a perishable good that needed to be constantly replaced, so it led to a cycle of West Africans raiding and enslaving each other for Arabs in order to buy slaves.

You can’t compare that with Somalis who have their own native horse breeds that thrive on our land, my own sub clan could probably field more cavalry than entire west African kingdoms.

Yall give too much credit to Arabs and Europeans. Africans were exploring the continent doing trade with each other.

Most West African horses were derived from the Dongola Horse. The Sahel allowed for a better flow of trade between West Africans and East Africa compared to crossing the Sahara.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dongola_horse

The Nok culture in Nigeria which lasted from 1500 BC to 500 AD. This is a Nok horsemen said to be 1,400 to 2,000 years old.

 

[Shimbiris]

Armor was used by pre-early modern Horners. In the Futuh al-Habasha we are told of "iron and steel" armor, of armor for horses, of helmets and chainmail as well as breastplates and so forth:

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You can see clearly that the Muslims like the Somalis and the Christian Abyssinians all had things like chainmail, breastplates and iron helmets as well as armor for their horses. All of this just probably fell out of fashion when guns were introduced.

 

[Dima&Damo]

One Somali Clan Would Probably Enslave All Of West-Africa Somalis Of Old Had No Mercy

 

[JarutheGreat]

Bro do you have a source for the armor picture? It's pretty cool, is that from a somali museum?

this was the empire warriors armors, we were the African to beat European by sea warfare, i don't need to explain who we are you already know.

I think that type of armour was widespread in the Sahel from Nigeria to Niger to Chad to Sudan to Eritrea.

Beni Amer horsemen wearing quilted armour, are chasing down Ethiopian troops

Nigerian armour

Sudanese Mahdist lacking the helmets

 

[exposedmeat]

I think that type of armour was widespread in the Sahel from Nigeria to Niger to Chad to Sudan to Eritrea.

Beni Amer horsemen wearing quilted armour, are chasing down Ethiopian troops

Nigerian armour

Sudanese Mahdist lacking the helmets

those sudanis niggas are wearing chains armor

 

[JarutheGreat]

those sudanis niggas are wearing chains armor

Yeah that chain armor made its way into Nigeria

 

[Chase]

The Italians also bombed Majeerteenia and brought along eritrean troops along with soldiers called dubbats from a Somali clan that had beef with an MJ sultan. They suffered defeats when it was on the ground.

Both the British and the Italian had to use aerial bombing and a lot of backup to win, they could not do it with man to man, ground battles.


Bombardment of Majeerteenia:

This was the Prince Of Majeerteenia, Hersi Boqor, who led the forces in Majeerteenia. In the Sultanate of Hobyo it was Cumar Samatar who was leading the freedom fighters, no pic of him yet.


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An MJ sultunate supplied the darawish forces with arms, Cumar Maxamud and Bicidyahan joined the fight, the Italians eventually exiled Sultan Kenadid and his son Ali Yusuf, to Yemen then Eritrea.

Only a few African countries can boast that Europeans, during the scramble for Africa, had to form secret bilateral agreements that were necessary to take them down, countries such as Morroco or Egypt, among others.

Somalia is up there with them, we had to contend with Abyssinia and Eritrea, backed by three colonial powers, Britain, France and Italy, of which these powers already conquered half the planet at the time. These foreign forces were armed with planes and rifles, for the most part, we were only equipped with horses and swords.

We built different.

 

[Diaspora ambassador]

Our arrows were dipped in poison. They would have lost big time

 

[BASEDsomali]

I couldn't imagine the Somalis winning against this type of cavalry. It would be a slaughter and sad day if a Somali cavalry went up against these madows.

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Somali horsemen

This is litterally Somali clan cavalry.
If you want some average Somali cavalry, then i Got u