Post-ATMIS = Pre-foreign occupation

[Step a side]

What about Al shabaab mate

They are all Murusade. No Oromo no Uganda no nothing. They hate seeing foreigners. Ethiopians tried it several times but they were annihilated

 

[Bazed]

Details have emerged, indicating that each Federal Member State (FMS) in Somalia will receive a designated base—Baidoa, Kismayo, Mogadishu, Beldweyne, and Abduwaak.

The situation in Kismayo appears to be at a standstill, with suspicions arising that Madobe might have struck a deal with Shabaab. Allegedly, this arrangement allows the group to profit from harvesting and selling charcoal in exchange for refraining from attacking and endangering Madobe's position. Madobe's swift concession of the ports in Kismayo to the FGS suggests a tendency towards self-enrichment above all else, with a focus on maintaining personal gains rather than serving the citizens of Jubbaland.

A positive development is the lifting of the arms embargo, providing an opportunity for strategic advancements. It's plausible that HSM may attempt to acquire T-55/-72 tanks and MiG planes from former Soviet-aligned countries within NATO via intermediaries like the US, Turks, or Egyptians. With Ukraine set to receive F-16s and Abrams tanks, there's a chance these surplus military assets could be redirected to Somalia in the near future. One of the few good things he did do is put us under a western-sphere of influence. Ethiopia under Abiye is sliding towards the, as Bush would call them, "Axis of Evil". This is not on HSM 130 iq move, just pure luck, one our country desperately needs. I think why the normally diminutive HSM is growing bolder and bolder in his demands of FMS, the US is cementing itself more and more as our allies because of the Ethiopian going haywire and Yemenis taking ships and Sudan going into civil war, we Somalia out of all countries became "reliable". With that trust he grows arrogant.

All of this assuming the government is playing chess, not checkers.

Men like Madobe are like plague in the nation. He stalls the development of a region that has the potential of being the greatest region in the nation. Instead of building agricultural innovations he's deforesting the place and making the droughts worse by doing so. He'll get away with it but Allah will judge him harshly for his crimes against his people.

With the arms embargo lifted I have no doubt that American arms will find their way in and be used to clear areas from AS. We need air support so that movement of all Khwarajis are logged and we know exactly where they are at whichever given moment.

 

[Gaandheri]

Details have emerged, indicating that each Federal Member State (FMS) in Somalia will receive a designated base—Baidoa, Kismayo, Mogadishu, Beldweyne, and Abduwaak.

The situation in Kismayo appears to be at a standstill, with suspicions arising that Madobe might have struck a deal with Shabaab. Allegedly, this arrangement allows the group to profit from harvesting and selling charcoal in exchange for refraining from attacking and endangering Madobe's position. Madobe's swift concession of the ports in Kismayo to the FGS suggests a tendency towards self-enrichment above all else, with a focus on maintaining personal gains rather than serving the citizens of Jubbaland.

Madobe has always had a relationship with AS he is a former member, him KDF and AS share charcoal sales revenues. The 5 US bases will be Baidoa, Kismayo, Dhusamareb, Jowhar, Xamar not the other 2 you listed.

A positive development is the lifting of the arms embargo, providing an opportunity for strategic advancements. It's plausible that HSM may attempt to acquire T-55/-72 tanks and MiG planes from former Soviet-aligned countries within NATO via intermediaries like the US, Turks, or Egyptians. With Ukraine set to receive F-16s and Abrams tanks, there's a chance these surplus military assets could be redirected to Somalia in the near future. One of the few good things he did do is put us under a western-sphere of influence. Ethiopia under Abiye is sliding towards the, as Bush would call them, "Axis of Evil". This is not on HSM 130 iq move, just pure luck, one our country desperately needs. I think why the normally diminutive HSM is growing bolder and bolder in his demands of FMS, the US is cementing itself more and more as our allies because of the Ethiopian going haywire and Yemenis taking ships and Sudan going into civil war, we Somalia out of all countries became "reliable". With that trust he grows arrogant. All of this assuming the government is playing chess, not checkers.

“America has no permanent friends or enemies only interests, It may be dangerous to be America's enemy but to be a friend is fatal”.

 

[Shayla]

What clans are these?

I'm gonna keep it

Tribes that want AMISOM to stay: Abgaal, Ogaden and Habar Awal.

Tribes that would benefit from AMISOM leaving: Mareexan, Habar Gedir Dhulbahante, MJ, Garxaajis and Madhibaan.

 

[Step a side]

I'm gonna keep it

Tribes that want AMISOM to stay: Abgaal, Ogaden and Habar Awal.

Tribes that would benefit from AMISOM leaving: Mareexan, Habar Gedir Dhulbahante, MJ, Garxaajis and Madhibaan.

Explain

 

[Shayla]

Explain

AMISOM literally put the first Abgaal President in charge with SS, deposing Abdullahi Yusuf. Abgaal in the 90s were in a war with HG non stop for Xamar. Since AMISOM; Abgaal have gotten 2 Presidents, 3 Presidential terms and have sidelined their old enemy HG.

Kenya is proping up Madoobe, they are sharing the coal money 3 ways with him and AS. Maboobe is keeping Mareexan and Harti at bay in Jubbaland through Kenya.

AMISOM has been known to fuel the war in the South, so that they can stay. This benefits SL government: mainly Habar Awal at the detriment of Dhulbahante, Gadbursi and Garxaajis.

 

[NOT-ACTIVE]

AMISOM has been known to fuel the war in the South, so that they can stay. This benefits SL government: mainly Habar Awal at the detriment of Dhulbahante, Gadbursi and Garxaajis.

You should add Warsangeli to this list our territory was considered "disputed" and a lot of the development aid that was supposed to go us was sent to Hargeisa and never reached our people

 

[Gaandheri]

I'm gonna keep it

Tribes that want AMISOM to stay: Abgaal, Ogaden and Habar Awal.

Tribes that would benefit from AMISOM leaving: Mareexan, Habar Gedir Dhulbahante, MJ, Garxaajis and Madhibaan.

Apart from somaliland becoming the 7th FMS and some competition from the isaaq sub clans what does SL/habar awal loose theirs no amisom/SNA up their? MJ also aren’t really affected theirs no amisom in their lands they benefit maybe more but nothing changes. You also forgot rahanweyn benefits from amisom staying.

 

[Step a side]

Apart from somaliland becoming the 7th FMS and some competition from the isaaq sub clans what does SL/habar awal loose theirs no amisom/SNA up their? MJ also aren’t really affected theirs no amisom in their lands they benefit maybe more but nothing changes. You also forgot rahanweyn benefits from amisom staying.

Why do you still have the Gaaljecel flag on your pfp

 

[Gaandheri]

Why do you still have the Gaaljecel flag on your pfp

What do you mean? Why don’t you have the Karanle flag on your pfp?

 

[Step a side]

What do you mean? Why don’t you have the Karanle flag on your pfp?

Warya are you not a Marexaan.

 

[Gaandheri]

Warya are you not a Marexaan.

I am no Ilkaayar ninyaho I am gaaljecel samow.

 

[JJ300]

AMISOM literally put the first Abgaal President in charge with SS, deposing Abdullahi Yusuf. Abgaal in the 90s were in a war with HG non stop for Xamar. Since AMISOM; Abgaal have gotten 2 Presidents, 3 Presidential terms and have sidelined their old enemy HG.

Kenya is proping up Madoobe, they are sharing the coal money 3 ways with him and AS. Maboobe is keeping Mareexan and Harti at bay in Jubbaland through Kenya.

AMISOM has been known to fuel the war in the South, so that they can stay. This benefits SL government: mainly Habar Awal at the detriment of Dhulbahante, Gadbursi and Garxaajis.

How does SL benefit. The instability in the south has been close to 40 years. If they had been benefiting they'd all be driving rolls royces and looking like singapore. Gold would be flying out of berbera.

 

[Almis]

AMISOM literally put the first Abgaal President in charge with SS, deposing Abdullahi Yusuf. Abgaal in the 90s were in a war with HG non stop for Xamar. Since AMISOM; Abgaal have gotten 2 Presidents, 3 Presidential terms and have sidelined their old enemy HG.

Kenya is proping up Madoobe, they are sharing the coal money 3 ways with him and AS. Maboobe is keeping Mareexan and Harti at bay in Jubbaland through Kenya.

AMISOM has been known to fuel the war in the South, so that they can stay. This benefits SL government: mainly Habar Awal at the detriment of Dhulbahante, Gadbursi and Garxaajis.

Blame everyone else but the konforians that live in xamar. How do possibly want to progress when you actually believe this bs that you wrote? You need to accept the fact konfurians cant govern themselves. We all saw the Leelkase vs Hawyie conflict over a water well, that force could've easily eradicated AS thus speeding the process of Amisom leaving the south but no lets keep them and blame SL and HA that dont know our existence are benefiting from your instability and the need for Amisom that you have caused.

 

[CABDULWALI XASAN.]

There is 0 chance for somalia, all of this new stuff is just bait. With this governmental system.. In my fully honest opinion I think my hope in somalia got completely deminished in 2024. Theres just nothing every outcome is bad. We are doomed guys

 

[Calaami]

I don’t know how Dr Muawiyah and the MBB crew will defend this latest misstep by Hassan Zulu

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

I don't why anyone would expect anything else than another rebrand and extension of the AU mission.

What about the Somalia government tells you it can manage tens of thousands of people spread across a vast territory? One army managing the security of Somalia is a bigger job than it being spread across 5 seperate armies each of them much older, more competent and more professional.

The AU is here for the long haul.

This is why southerners need to stop dreaming about Somaliweyn or even Somaliland. Manage the considerable effort that awaits you. This requires a culture of disclipline and orderliness - no more chimping out. Respect and gratitude - if a foreign country comes to aid you don't spit in their face and kill their trainers. It's a long long road and I wish you all the best.

 

[LiveFrom]

The bomb used during the zoobe explosion was black rock. They have been in the country for a while unfortunately

Wdym black rock? Mercenary company?

 

[FBIsomalia]

Shame on all the clans that can't even keep their regions safe but have energy for FKD and aano qabiil. Get off the internet oo is xoreeya. Instead they sit online fantasising about selling natural resources. Walahi if you keep it up, they will turn South Central Somalia into CONGO II.

The problem is they have nerve to tell us those paper states are equal to puntland!!.

Thats explain why always they accept or sign anything says xamar.

They dont cant make one goverment meeting in their lands, any small or big thing they ask xamar.

Thanks Allah Deni said to them f*ck off with middle finger .

 

[FBIsomalia]

What do you guys expect?

South Somalia is no where near in a position to take over the full responsibility of it's security. We are struggling to defeat shabaab.

Fixed.