PL Grand reformation meeting

The fact that we still have all the Dhulbahante politicians after all that has happen is unbelievable to me. WTF is going on? This nigga Deni talking about getting attacked but still has all these non PL people who represent no one but themselves while many tax paying PL clans are underrepresented. This is Deni fault, send their asses home. We don't need to wait till next elections to make changes.
 

Thegoodshepherd

Galkacyo iyo Calula dhexdood
VIP
Warsangeli VP
Leelkase Speaker


17 MPs be divided between non repped MJ subs, Warsangeli, Dishishe and Leelkase

It would be better for everyone for Warsangeli to join SSC. I don't think SSC is viable as a FMS without Warsangeli, and Dhulbahante as adamant that they will not return to Puntland.

Warsangeli need to understand that Puntland will never defend Warsangeli territories, like Ceerigaabo, from Isaaq expansionism. MJ politicians will never declare war on Somaliland. It will never happen. You are better off being part of SSC as Dhulbahante are willing to go to war against Isaaq.

Puntland will democratize. Clans will form parties and will get seats according to their size. There will be no clan based representation. Puntland will have proportional representation.
 
Warsangeli need to understand that Puntland will never defend Warsangeli territories, like Ceerigaabo, from Isaaq expansionism. MJ politicians will never declare war on Somaliland.
This is the same fallacy spun by Southie elements in PL politics same as pre Sool conflict. Core elements in PL think the opposite. Let us wait for the results of the tripartite peace negotiations led by Suldan Said ongoing in Sanaag.
 
It would be better for everyone for Warsangeli to join SSC. I don't think SSC is viable as a FMS without Warsangeli, and Dhulbahante as adamant that they will not return to Puntland.

Warsangeli need to understand that Puntland will never defend Warsangeli territories, like Ceerigaabo, from Isaaq expansionism. MJ politicians will never declare war on Somaliland. It will never happen. You are better off being part of SSC as Dhulbahante are willing to go to war against Isaaq.

Puntland will democratize. Clans will form parties and will get seats according to their size. There will be no clan based representation. Puntland will have proportional representation.
If eastern Sanaag is PL, then it is a PL issue. It was Puntlanders that were displaced. It's not an expansion on "Warsangeli territories", it's an expansion on Puntland itself.

You're talking about ending clan based politics, yet you're the one peddling this nonsense.
 

Thegoodshepherd

Galkacyo iyo Calula dhexdood
VIP
This is the same fallacy spun by Southie elements in PL politics same as pre Sool conflict. Core elements in PL think the opposite. Let us wait for the results of the tripartite peace negotiations led by Suldan Said ongoing in Sanaag.

Puntland will never fight to make sure that Ceerigaabo is divided in two like Gaalkacyo is divided in two. Neither Deni nor any other politician in Puntland is ready to send 4,000 men to Ceerigaabo to break the back of the iidoor.

This is why I don't believe Warsangeli and Dhulbahante have any future in Puntland. The Puntland of today is the same, the exact same, as the one that lost Laascaanood in 2007. Nothing has changed.

I want all out war with iidoor. I want to see Ceerigaabo empty and on fire if the iidoor refuse to accept its division. No one in Puntland is ready to pay the price, but iidoor from Hargaysa are willing to fight and die for Ceerigaabo. Puntland is totally incapable as a state of defending non MJ territory. Our leaders are cowards. Shameful people.
 

FBIsomalia

True Puntlander
VIP
Puntland will never fight to make sure that Ceerigaabo is divided in two like Gaalkacyo is divided in two. Neither Deni nor any other politician in Puntland is ready to send 4,000 men to Ceerigaabo to break the back of the iidoor.

This is why I don't believe Warsangeli and Dhulbahante have any future in Puntland. The Puntland of today is the same, the exact same, as the one that lost Laascaanood in 2007. Nothing has changed.

I want all out war with iidoor. I want to see Ceerigaabo empty and on fire if the iidoor refuse to accept its division. No one in Puntland is ready to pay the price, but iidoor from Hargaysa are willing to fight and die for Ceerigaabo. Puntland is totally incapable as a state of defending non MJ territory. Our leaders are cowards. Shameful people.
After we clean rats at celmaskat and celmadow, maybe next target will be ceerigaabo!!.
 
It would be better for everyone for Warsangeli to join SSC. I don't think SSC is viable as a FMS without Warsangeli, and Dhulbahante as adamant that they will not return to Puntland.

Warsangeli need to understand that Puntland will never defend Warsangeli territories, like Ceerigaabo, from Isaaq expansionism. MJ politicians will never declare war on Somaliland. It will never happen. You are better off being part of SSC as Dhulbahante are willing to go to war against Isaaq.

Puntland will democratize. Clans will form parties and will get seats according to their size. There will be no clan based representation. Puntland will have proportional representation.
I think the hidden tensions that have been brought to the surface cant be bottled back up. It was only after watching this hanolaato interview

that I realized the extent to which the Puntland elite peripheralized the sanaag region .
They've basically prevented any type of foreign aid money or development funding from reaching sanaag. Especially in regards to las khorey whose development was heavily suppressed so that it basically remains a fishing village and can't compete with Bosaso.
 
Puntland will never fight to make sure that Ceerigaabo is divided in two like Gaalkacyo is divided in two. Neither Deni nor any other politician in Puntland is ready to send 4,000 men to Ceerigaabo to break the back of the iidoor.
Without divulging much, what if I were to tell you the details have been flushed out to the nitty gritty where in principle even policing, tax collection, Mayoral position rotating etc had been agreed upon?

Cal Madow cleaning units are awaiting final prep with Ministers led by Qoorsheel in Yube in the outskirts of Ceerigaabo.
 
Puntland will never fight to make sure that Ceerigaabo is divided in two like Gaalkacyo is divided in two. Neither Deni nor any other politician in Puntland is ready to send 4,000 men to Ceerigaabo to break the back of the iidoor.

This is why I don't believe Warsangeli and Dhulbahante have any future in Puntland. The Puntland of today is the same, the exact same, as the one that lost Laascaanood in 2007. Nothing has changed.

I want all out war with iidoor. I want to see Ceerigaabo empty and on fire if the iidoor refuse to accept its division. No one in Puntland is ready to pay the price, but iidoor from Hargaysa are willing to fight and die for Ceerigaabo. Puntland is totally incapable as a state of defending non MJ territory. Our leaders are cowards. Shameful people.
Don’t mind him there, that’s just the puntite Lindsay Graham engaging in some self flagellation 😂

Ceerigaabo was lost by harti waqooyi and it’ll be taken back by harti waqooyi.
 
1. Withdraw our troops from Jiida hore.
2. Close our boarders from Yube all the way to Birta dheer iyo Garowe.
3. Heavy weight Warsangeli or Leelkase lead Puntland ie getting rid of Deni.
4. Open a referendum for the people to vote to stay or leave Somalia. (Republic)

In that order.
 
Puntland will never fight to make sure that Ceerigaabo is divided in two like Gaalkacyo is divided in two. Neither Deni nor any other politician in Puntland is ready to send 4,000 men to Ceerigaabo to break the back of the iidoor.

This is why I don't believe Warsangeli and Dhulbahante have any future in Puntland. The Puntland of today is the same, the exact same, as the one that lost Laascaanood in 2007. Nothing has changed.

I want all out war with iidoor. I want to see Ceerigaabo empty and on fire if the iidoor refuse to accept its division. No one in Puntland is ready to pay the price, but iidoor from Hargaysa are willing to fight and die for Ceerigaabo. Puntland is totally incapable as a state of defending non MJ territory. Our leaders are cowards. Shameful people.

You war mongering demon, Cerigabo had a peace charter agreed upon by its inhabitants and 4 clans, older than both Somaliland and Puntland constitutions.

Kastumos broke that peace agreement and got beaten twice and banned from Cerigabo, and the uninvolved Warsangeli were sent packing as well as collateral damage.

The Las Anod war was xaq but Cerigabo was a dulmi attempt and Puntland is not going to commit war crimes for weaklings who wanted to hoist the Kastumo flag over a town they’re a minority in.
 
You war mongering demon, Cerigabo had a peace charter agreed upon by its inhabitants and 4 clans, older than both Somaliland and Puntland constitutions.

Kastumos broke that peace agreement and got beaten twice and banned from Cerigabo, and the uninvolved Warsangeli were sent packing as well as collateral damage.

The Las Anod war was xaq but Cerigabo was a dulmi attempt and Puntland is not going to commit war crimes for weaklings who wanted to hoist the Kastumo flag over a town they’re a minority in.
But the Somalilanders want to have Garowe as their buffer border area.. Why are you begging the seccesionists entity? You think they'll leave you alone if you begg enough for peace?
 
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FBIsomalia

True Puntlander
VIP
You war mongering demon, Cerigabo had a peace charter agreed upon by its inhabitants and 4 clans, older than both Somaliland and Puntland constitutions.

Kastumos broke that peace agreement and got beaten twice and banned from Cerigabo, and the uninvolved Warsangeli were sent packing as well as collateral damage.

The Las Anod war was xaq but Cerigabo was a dulmi attempt and Puntland is not going to commit war crimes for weaklings who wanted to hoist the Kastumo flag over a town they’re a minority in.
Why you defend Jeegaans?
 

Libaax-Joore

Beesha haplogroup e-by8081
VIP
Puntland halagu kala taago us muse sultan from bayla and xaafun I will declare raas Macbar state of somalia 🇸🇴 let Everyman fight for himself..
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