PL Grand reformation meeting

[FBIsomalia]

Who is defending jeegan who even mentioned them

The new guy start defending them, I think he is sheegto.

 

[Abdisamad]

What

Did you forget seccesionists were threatening to pray jumca in Garowe before their main base in Goojacade got dismantled? Weird I even have to remind you about this since it was such a short time ago.

 

[Abdisamad]

Puntland halagu kala taago us muse sultan from bayla and xaafun I will declare raas Macbar state of somalia let Everyman fight for himself..
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Who's gonna watch over your mango farm down south while you up north dividing PL into sub clans?

 

[The Oponian Guild]

Did you forget seccesionists were threatening to pray jumca in Garowe before their main base in Goojacade got dismantled? Weird I even have to remind you about this since it was such a short time ago.

Somalida wey kala tagtay bro, not our job or mandate to try pull them back, as for their threats. of coming to Garowe, we’d meet them on the road and finish them peace meal. They know better than not to rile us.

 

[The Oponian Guild]

The new guy start defending them, I think he is sheegto.

We will see, it is up to @Aarka Nugaal to dispel these claims.

 

[Abdisamad]

Somalida wey kala tagtay bro, not our job or mandate to try pull them back, as for their threats. of coming to Garowe, we’d meet them on the road and finish them peace meal. They know better than not to rile us.

Cid ma kala tagin sxb.. Deni has been outsmarted by Qoslaye and Marxuumka even his own cousin is in Muqdisho collecting handouts, beside that you have the interior minister in lascanood who's another MJ working for Qoslaye, what's it gonna be then we'll divide PL into mini sub tribe zones? No way you can stop a recognized SL with bigger economy and more resources at your border in Garowe looking to make your little mini tribal zone into a buffer..

 

[The Oponian Guild]

Cid ma kala tagin sxb.. Deni has been outsmarted by Qoslaye and Marxuumka even his own cousin is in Muqdisho collecting handouts, beside that you have the interior minister in lascanood who's another MJ working for Qoslaye, what's it gonna be then we'll divide PL into mini sub tribe zones? No way you can stop a recognized SL with bigger economy and more resources at your border in Garowe looking to make your little mini tribal zone into a buffer..

Please let’s stop with the whole making SL into a giant behemoth antic whenever folks emotional about khatumo/sanaag. It’s not that constructive or helpful. Isaaq are not in a position to have their fiefdom recognised nor will they try look east for a long while, they’re barrelling westwards due to that defeat in 23. They won’t look east. All I say is, now that we have breathing room, time we get the house in order. Make changes and drop the deadweight.

 

[Libaax-Joore]

Who's gonna watch over your mango farm down south while you up north dividing PL into sub clans?

Am tired sheegato @Thegoodshepherd blaming warsaan jeedal and Kashmir dhulbahante horgaalnimo for majerteen wallahi @Thegoodshepherd hadhu bayla yimaado inti darka laga sibo aya melwalbo laga wasi laha…., issaq iyo Somaliland bu ku washe just because his in love with jeedal and kashmir

 

[Abdisamad]

Please let’s stop with the whole making SL into a giant behemoth antic whenever folks emotional about khatumo/sanaag. It’s not that constructive or helpful. Isaaq are not in a position to have their fiefdom recognised nor will they try look east for a long while, they’re barrelling westwards due to that defeat in 23. They won’t look east. All I say is, now that we have breathing room, time we get the house in order. Make changes and drop the deadweight.

Bro it's not about making SL a giant or predicting them getting recognition anytime soon, all I'm saying is we should stop with this attitude of making PL like it only belongs to MJ, PL is for everyone, if some tribes or groups wish to leave then so be it, also you need to understand Deni is a failure, now I'm not saying he's done good things internally in PL but when it comes with interacting with groups outside of PL he's been such a failure, now we are told to close our selves in an ever shrinking PL and further isolate ourselves like that would make PL stronger, you said walaga guuray making it sound like all Somalis have been broken into pieces, yes things doesn't look good especially for federalism, isn't it now you should step up to counter the threat instead of isolating? This strategy of trying to isolate PL has failed, maybe it's time to try another uproach, even to this day no body understands what's Deni's agenda, does he want an alliance with SL? is he aiming for the amisom bunker in Muqdisho? So far there hasn't been any clear strategy from his administration.. Why should we support isoliting PL, a strategy which will eventually weaken PL?

 

[Abdisamad]

Am tired sheegato @Thegoodshepherd blaming warsaan jeedal and Kashmir dhulbahante horgaalnimo for majerteen wallahi @Thegoodshepherd hadhu bayla yimaado inti darka laga sibo aya melwalbo laga wasi laha…., issaq iyo Somaliland bu ku washe just because his in love with jeedal and kashmir

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[The Oponian Guild]

Bro it's not about making SL a giant or predicting them getting recognition anytime soon, all I'm saying is we should stop with this attitude of making PL like it only belongs to MJ, PL is for everyone, if some tribes or groups wish to leave then so be it, also you need to understand Deni is a failure, now I'm not saying he's done good things internally in PL but when it comes with interacting with groups outside of PL he's been such a failure, now we are told to close our selves in an ever shrinking PL and further isolate ourselves like that would make PL stronger, you said walaga guuray making it sound like all Somalis have been broken into pieces, yes things doesn't look good especially for federalism, isn't it now you should step up to counter the threat instead of isolating? This strategy of trying to isolate PL has failed, maybe it's time to try another uproach, even to this day no body understands what's Deni's agenda, does he want an alliance with SL? is he aiming for the amisom bunker in Muqdisho? So far there hasn't been any clear strategy from his administration.. Why should we support isoliting PL, a strategy which will eventually weaken PL?

1. Puntland has harmed itself more times than I can count going off on goose chases, it has never tried isolation or neutrality.
2. they will leave or they will try to internally sabotage either one of the two will follow first. We aren’t shrinking, we control over a third of Somalia even if the Warsan goes. And there will be ample opportunities for expansion if that is your concern.
3. You disagree with Deni administration but for different reasons, I think he’s too involved you think he isn’t involved enough, agree to disagree I say on that. Matter of perspective after all.
4. If we weren’t around, you think puntland would’ve arisen? course not, my and your family built it along with hundreds of others who gave their wealth and lives for it. Why should them who had no hand in the building or fighting reap the rewards of it come they may?

 

[Malsi]

Puntland halagu kala taago us muse sultan from bayla and xaafun I will declare raas Macbar state of somalia let Everyman fight for himself..
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Hey hey hey relax.

Xaafuun is a Yusuf Sultan territory.

 

[Malsi]

Am tired sheegato @Thegoodshepherd blaming warsaan jeedal and Kashmir dhulbahante horgaalnimo for majerteen wallahi @Thegoodshepherd hadhu bayla yimaado inti darka laga sibo aya melwalbo laga wasi laha…., issaq iyo Somaliland bu ku washe just because his in love with jeedal and kashmir

Adigu ma dhaantid. Always aiming to divide Puntland.

 

[Saleh]

It would be better for everyone for Warsangeli to join SSC. I don't think SSC is viable as a FMS without Warsangeli, and Dhulbahante as adamant that they will not return to Puntland.

Warsangeli need to understand that Puntland will never defend Warsangeli territories, like Ceerigaabo, from Isaaq expansionism. MJ politicians will never declare war on Somaliland. It will never happen. You are better off being part of SSC as Dhulbahante are willing to go to war against Isaaq.

Puntland will democratize. Clans will form parties and will get seats according to their size. There will be no clan based representation. Puntland will have proportional representation.

ceeri never belonged to harti, your cousins were marti and now they have been expelled

 

[Abdisamad]

1. Puntland has harmed itself more times than I can count going off on goose chases, it has never tried isolation or neutrality.
2. they will leave or they will try to internally sabotage either one of the two will follow first. We aren’t shrinking, we control over a third of Somalia even if the Warsan goes. And there will be ample opportunities for expansion if that is your concern.
3. You disagree with Deni administration but for different reasons, I think he’s too involved you think he isn’t involved enough, agree to disagree I say on that. Matter of perspective after all.
4. If we weren’t around, you think puntland would’ve arisen? course not, my and your family built it along with hundreds of others who gave their wealth and lives for it. Why should them who had no hand in the building or fighting reap the rewards of it come they may?

So what are you saying Bro, PL is one clan state? You do realise most Warsangeli are pro PL right, apart from the Qoslaye friendly delegation in Laascanood.. Something wrong with Deni and his administration, the only thing I respect about him is how he organized the fight against daesh, other than I'm not impressed with him getting check mated by the low iq marxuum and Qoslaye.. His best card so far has been inviting Ahmed Madobe to hold a conference in Garowe..

 

[Abdisamad]

Adigu ma dhaantid. Always aiming to divide Puntland.

He's a southern MJ, very harmless in reality.. But like to puff his chest

 

[The Oponian Guild]

So what are you saying Bro, PL is one clan state? You do realise most Warsangeli are pro PL right, apart from the Qoslaye friendly delegation in Laascanood.. Something wrong with Deni and his administration, the only thing I respect about him is how he organized the fight against daesh, other than I'm not impressed with him getting check mated by the low iq marxuum and Qoslaye.. His best card so far has been inviting Ahmed Madobe to hold a conference in Garowe..

As I said previously decisions should be made and the house must be rearranged. This is all in the future ala kulli haal so don’t stress yourself about it Ina adeer

 

[DR OSMAN]

Puntland will never fight to make sure that Ceerigaabo is divided in two like Gaalkacyo is divided in two. Neither Deni nor any other politician in Puntland is ready to send 4,000 men to Ceerigaabo to break the back of the iidoor.

This is why I don't believe Warsangeli and Dhulbahante have any future in Puntland. The Puntland of today is the same, the exact same, as the one that lost Laascaanood in 2007. Nothing has changed.

I want all out war with iidoor. I want to see Ceerigaabo empty and on fire if the iidoor refuse to accept its division. No one in Puntland is ready to pay the price, but iidoor from Hargaysa are willing to fight and die for Ceerigaabo. Puntland is totally incapable as a state of defending non MJ territory. Our leaders are cowards. Shameful people.

Shameful is damn rite, u don't claim a territory and then codify it in a constitution assembly and sit there and allow it to be violated, any sensible state would declare an all out war to defend its territorial integrity.

Ceerigaabo needs to be defended and Isaaq given another show of force like August 25 operation send isaaq to hell.

 

[Aarka Nugaal]

We will see, it is up to @Aarka Nugaal to dispel these claims.

Why you defend Jeegaans?

So you think Puntland should wage war on Cerigabo?

I’m not defending anybody, I call a spade a spade, I’m not like some of you who are willing to go to Jahannam for Muh Qabiil.

My qabiil is Puntland First

 

[Libaax-Joore]

Hey hey hey relax.

Xaafuun is a Yusuf Sultan territory.

Muse sultan is five subclan
Three subclan live in xaafuun
1.Mohamed muse
2.Samatar muse
3.Ismail muse
Two subclan live in banderbayla
1.farah muse my subclan
2. Fahiye muse

Yusuf sultan brother of muse sultan also live in xaafun the two predominantly subclan that live in xaafun

The current governor of xaafun is muse sultan, Ismail muse …