Pickmesha epidemic back home

[Mhm]

The women in the video are naag nools and chose their hooyo but the comments are disturbing choosing their man. These woman are traitors to dumarland smh

BAN MASKS IN SOMALIA!!!!
Wallahi Somali girls are cooked.
Tell me why they’re wearing it like it’s a fashion apparel.
Why aren’t they getting heckled by a Somali general in the street.
“Naya take off the mask”
Ridiculous.

 

[Kane]

Great way of getting out of answering the question.

Your posts are never complete without at least an accusation.

I rarely vote and go straight to commenting and I nearly do that in every thread. I don’t for one second believe that the ‘husband is more important’. Should the wife obey him more? Yes. But what Islamic proof do you have he is more important? What scholar uses those terms? The wife should obey him more then same way he needs to provide for his wife more. Does that make her more important than his mother since she’s more deserving of his money? Of course not.

You should rewatch the op’s original video, it’s about who a wife should obey first, her mother or her husband!! And that’s the point being debated here, not who is more important or who the wife should love more.

I’m surprised by your stance maybe I misjudged you Angie, for a moment you sound like a real one.

I don’t believe the husband comes before the mother when it comes to love and mercy. But with regards to obedience yes, simply because upon marriage the husband is now the protector and provider for his wife and she has went from being under her fathers protection to now that of her husband, hence she is now of a new household. It makes sense that the new person that is currently looking after her should be the ones that she listens to more since she’s under his roof.

We are discussing only obedience and nothing else and I agree with your logic mansha Allah.

But in terms of love and allegiance, it’s parents every day. A woman can divorce her man for hating him according to the Sharia, can she ever cut ties of kinship with her parents?!

No but women do that all the time for the men they fall in love with, I have had that problem many time. Where I had to defend a woman’s family against her while she defended me against them.

Simply because I could never love her like her family or promise to always be there like them.

It’s the same for a husband as well, but according to the Sunnah, his provision goes to his wife first, even if his parents are poor. He is more responsible for his wife.

Kane, do you agree?

I would never put myself in a position where I had to choose between the 2, but the law exist for a reason and Allah knows best.

But there are instances where husband abandon their mothers at the request of their wives, I would divorce any woman who tries to get in between me and the women I love the most in this world, my mother.

I can agree that the wife obey her husband more….but can you agree that your wife comes first in terms of providing even if your parents are poor?

Yes because she is not only my wife but she is also the mother of my children. Just as I’m the child of my mother.

Same loser women will get triggered when I say I love my mom more than her. If a woman is not committed to her husband then that marriage is on feeble foundations and women path to heaven is thro the husband

Let’s not stoop down to these peoples level bro, these are the 6 conditions:

she must pray 5 times, fast, pay zakat, protect her private parts, obey her husband and abstain from major sins. Then she is guaranteed Jannah.

That simp Aurelian just isolated the “obey her husband” part since it offends him as a white knight, defender of women’s rights even against Islamic rulings.

You’re a bad husband if you want to make your wife put yourself over her mother.

What does that even mean? Sounds narcissistic and controlling.

Appeasing women never works bro try other methods.

 

[Mudug_gyal]

Your posts are never complete without at least an accusation.



You should rewatch the op’s original video, it’s about who a wife should obey first, her mother or her husband!! And that’s the point being debated here, not who is more important or who the wife should love more.

I’m surprised by your stance maybe I misjudged you Angie, for a moment you sound like a real one.



We are discussing only obedience and nothing else and I agree with your logic mansha Allah.



No but women do that all the time for the men they fall in love with, I have had that problem many time. Where I had to defend a woman’s family against her while she defended me against them.

Simply because I could never love her like her family or promise to always be there like them.


I would never put myself in a position where I had to choose between the 2, but the law exist for a reason and Allah knows best.

But there are instances where husband abandon their mothers at the request of their wives, I would divorce any woman who tries to get in between me and the women I love the most in this world, my mother.




Yes because she is not only my wife but she is also the mother of my children. Just as I’m the child of my mother.



Let’s not stoop down to these peoples level bro, these are the 6 conditions:

she must pray 5 times, fast, pay zakat, protect her private parts, obey her husband and abstain from major sins. Then she is guaranteed Jannah.

That simp Aurelian just isolated the “obey her husband” part since it offends him as a white knight, defender of women’s rights even against Islamic rulings.


Appeasing women never works bro try other methods.

Women would also divorce a man that tries to get in between them and their mothers. end of discussion

 

[World]

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Appeasing women never works bro try other methods.

Dude, in Islam it is of utmost importance for you to have a good relationship with your mother. Jannah lies beneath her feet.

There is no reason to discuss a stupid hypothetical of a wife choosing between her mother and husband. Someone who raises this question, is probably an insecure controlling narcissist who wants to oppress his wife.

As her husband you should be helping your wife strengthen her ties with her mother, and not be the one breaking them apart. It’s in a mother’s fitrah to love her daughter unconditionally and want the best for her, so why would there be conflict between you and her?

Don’t associate your filthy red pill ideology with Islam.

 

[Angelina]

Your posts are never complete without at least an accusation.



You should rewatch the op’s original video, it’s about who a wife should obey first, her mother or her husband!! And that’s the point being debated here, not who is more important or who the wife should love more.

I’m surprised by your stance maybe I misjudged you Angie, for a moment you sound like a real one.



We are discussing only obedience and nothing else and I agree with your logic mansha Allah.



No but women do that all the time for the men they fall in love with, I have had that problem many time. Where I had to defend a woman’s family against her while she defended me against them.

Simply because I could never love her like her family or promise to always be there like them.


I would never put myself in a position where I had to choose between the 2, but the law exist for a reason and Allah knows best.

Like wise it’s the same for women. They would never want to be in a situation in which they have to choose between their parents and husband. A good spouse wouldn’t put their wife/ husband in that situation.

But there are instances where husband abandon their mothers at the request of their wives, I would divorce any woman who tries to get in between me and the women I love the most in this world, my mother.




Yes because she is not only my wife but she is also the mother of my children. Just as I’m the child of my mother.



Let’s not stoop down to these peoples level bro, these are the 6 conditions:

she must pray 5 times, fast, pay zakat, protect her private parts, obey her husband and abstain from major sins. Then she is guaranteed Jannah.

That simp Aurelian just isolated the “obey her husband” part since it offends him as a white knight, defender of women’s rights even against Islamic rulings.


Appeasing women never works bro try other methods.

@World isn’t appeasing women. The same way you’d never put yourself in a situation you have to choose between your wife and mother when it comes to certain scenarios, you should also understand that as a husband you shouldn’t put your wife in that situation as her mother loves her just as much as your mother loves you.

It made you uncomfortable at the thought of having to choose, so why can’t you understand it’s the same for women? Your lack of self awareness is glaring.

 

[Angelina]

Dude, in Islam it is of utmost importance for you to have a good relationship with your mother. Jannah lies beneath her feet.

There is no reason to discuss a stupid hypothetical of a wife choosing between her mother and husband. Someone who raises this question, is probably an insecure controlling narcissist who wants to oppress his wife.

As her husband you should be helping your wife strengthen her ties with her mother, and not be the one breaking them apart. It’s in a mother’s fitrah to love her daughter unconditionally and want the best for her, so why would there be conflict between you and her?

Don’t associate your filthy red pill ideology with Islam.

It’s so unlike Somali Dhaqan as well. You find this thinking among Western Somali ‘Akhis’. Our fathers gen would happily help their wives look after their mothers to such an extent it’s normal for Somali grandmothers to live with their daughter and son-in-law if she chooses to. Hardly ever saw scenarios of husbands preventing wives from visiting parents or acting like he’s more important.

Strange times.

 

[Netflix]

Men are human doings, while women are human beings. Always replaceable. This is grounds for divorce. There is zero fear of losing the husband. In most cases, I wouldn't fault a wife for choosing her mother over me. But there must be some limits.

 

[Kane]

Women would also divorce a man that tries to get in between them and their mothers. end of discussion

Women love conditionally and if they find the right man to meet those conditions, their mothers become irrelevant. I know this for a fact!!

You only use this tough talk with the majority of miskiin suckers, who already follow you around like lost puppies.

Dude, in Islam it is of utmost importance for you to have a good relationship with your mother. Jannah lies beneath her feet.

Halt your feelings for a second, what does this have to do with a wife obeying her husband? Because that’s the topic of discussion.

There is no reason to discuss a stupid hypothetical of a wife choosing between her mother and husband. Someone who raises this question, is probably an insecure controlling narcissist who wants to oppress his wife.

Why are you using female shaming language to make a point to your fellow man, bro please put the tampons away.

As her husband you should be helping your wife strengthen her ties with her mother, and not be the one breaking them apart. It’s in a mother’s fitrah to love her daughter unconditionally and want the best for her, so why would there be conflict between you and her?

Let me tell you something you don’t know, the overwhelming majority of Somali mothers go out of their way, to involve themselves in their daughters marriage life.

When the groom happens to be a Somali, they do it not only to irritate, instigate but to control and exploit the unsuspecting sucker.

But when he is an ajinabi they keep their distance, they respect the boundaries of the marriage, and even enable ajinabi men to turn their precious daughters into doormats.

Because they are cowards, respect less old women such as these should be kept out of the marriage, and if they ever interfere in the internal affairs of said Somali marriage which is haram they should be put in their place. If not they should have their agents aka daughters sent back to them immediately.

Don’t associate your filthy red pill ideology with Islam.

Again shaming language, you must have grown up with lots of sister you ooze of naag nool energy. I’ll bet you know nothing about the red pill philosophy, except for the buzzword it is.

Like wise it’s the same for women. They would never want to be in a situation in which they have to choose between their parents and husband. A good spouse wouldn’t put their wife/ husband in that situation.

Moving the goal post once again, we are discussing a wife’s obedience to her husband. If a mother interferes in that she should be told off simple.

But thats theoretical, practically a man should already have the right incentives to make his wife play her position correctly, and defend her house against all outside influence including that of her mother. If it does not add value or strengthen the already existing bonds between husband and wife it should rejected and the mother told off.

@World isn’t appeasing women. The same way you’d never put yourself in a situation you have to choose between your wife and mother when it comes to certain scenarios, you should also understand that as a husband you shouldn’t put your wife in that situation as her mother loves her just as much as your mother loves you.

It made you uncomfortable at the thought of having to choose, so why can’t you understand it’s the same for women? Your lack of self awareness is glaring.

You’re just creating side issues as usual.

Anyway a man should marry a woman who he can lead, not one who is more loyal to her mother then her marriage.

A woman like that is a liability and of course that falls back on the man for not having the right incentive to make her act right.

 

[JustSomeGuy]

There were many islamic rulings that were overturned and annulled overtime. Taking pictures, coffee, women driving, women going anywhere outside the house without mahram to name a few all used to be haram but in our day and age islamic scholars and jurisprudence have decided that these are impractical and updated their stances. We women are not stupid or narcissists, we just know our mothers take priority over any person because Jannah is under the mothers feet.

Those were the things that put us behind the West, like the Ottomans banning the printing press because they were scared of their subjects having easy access to information. The West embraced innovation & new technology whilst the Ottomans & the Caliphates banned it. One of the worst things to ever happen to the Ummah excluding the Mongol Invasion & the burning of Baghdad.

 

[JustSomeGuy]

My own personal opinion is that once you're married your wife should come first. Otherwise, why are you married? The whole point is to officially devote your everything to your spouse. Of course you should still take care of your mother, but if you were forced to choose, then you should choose your wife.

 

[Angelina]

Women love conditionally and if they find the right man to meet those conditions, their mothers become irrelevant. I know this for a fact!!

Women’s mothers become irreverent?? Wallahi I’m hearing it all today. I’m beginning to think you’re mentally unstable.

You only use this tough talk with the majority of miskiin suckers, who already follow you around like lost puppies.

Halt your feelings for a second, what does this have to do with a wife obeying her husband? Because that’s the topic of discussion.

Why are you using female shaming language to make a point to your fellow man, bro please put the tampons away.



Let me tell you something you don’t know, the overwhelming majority of Somali mothers go out of their way, to involve themselves in their daughters marriage life.

When the groom happens to be a Somali, they do it not only to irritate, instigate but to control and exploit the unsuspecting sucker.

But when he is an ajinabi they keep their distance, they respect the boundaries of the marriage, and even enable ajinabi men to turn their precious daughters into doormats.

Absolute liar Authobillah. Many Somali hooyos do not approve of Ajnabi mothers and some even kick up a fuss more so than the father and have more of an issue with it. When my own cousin married an Ajnabi, my aunt was even angrier than my uncle.

The more I read your posts, the more irs
Obvious you’re like a weird basement dweller who doesn’t mix with the Somali community. Everyone knows older fob hooyos hate interracial marriages.
Some even try to disown their daughters over it.

Because they are cowards, respect less old women such as these should be kept out of the marriage, and if they ever interfere in the internal affairs of said Somali marriage which is haram they should be put in their place. If not they should have their agents aka daughters sent back to them immediately.



Again shaming language, you must have grown up with lots of sister you ooze of naag nool energy. I’ll bet you know nothing about the red pill philosophy, except for the buzzword it is.

Heyy, this has nothing to do with feminine or masculine. Certain ideologies are indeed redpill, same way certain ideologies are feminist. You have an aversion to the truth.

Moving the goal post once again, we are discussing a wife’s obedience to her husband. If a mother interferes in that she should be told off simple.

And now can you tell a mother ‘off’? Even major scholars who argue that a woman should obey her husband more would never advocate for a mother to be told off, since heaven is still under the feet of the mother? This is why I think you’re disgusting and your loyalty to redpill
Over Islam is showing.

This isn’t Islam, but a deviant mindset in which mothers are ‘told off’ is against the deen.

But thats theoretical, practically a man should already have the right incentives to make his wife play her position correctly, and defend her house against all outside influence including that of her mother. If it does not add value or strengthen the already existing bonds between husband and wife it should rejected and the mother told off.

Interesting you use the word ‘told off’ again. It’s incredible and @World is actually right. You’re a narc that thinks as a man you’re more important than that off someone’s mother. You’re not. You don’t even understand the importance of motherhood and how haram it is for a man or woman to tell their mother off. No scholar or person of knowledge would advocate this and some scholars believe the position of mother and husband are equal like that of the Hanifi position:

Parents or Husband - IslamQA

Who should a woman obey first, before marriage its the parents but after marriage do the parents have the same status or does the husband come first, if the parents disagree with the husbands way of

islamqa.org

You’re just creating side issues as usual.

Anyway a man should marry a woman who he can lead, not one who is more loyal to her mother then her marriage.

A woman like that is a liability and of course that falls back on the man for not having the right incentive to make her act right.

A woman is always going to be more loyal to the one who birthed her, same with a man. Whilst a woman should obey her husband, if a man shows flagrant disrespect for a woman’s family and the importance of motherhood, such a man can be divorced and you’ll be old news. You can’t compete with peoples families. What a sick mindset.

You actually sound like an emotionally abusive individual. I can’t be asked to debate with you since I’ve realized you’re not normal and I think even the guys here can even see it.

You’re the worst type of man for any woman and even most fathers would be worried for their daughters if they were to find out about your mentality.

in what way can you tell ‘off’ a woman old enough to be your mother? In what way is this deen and dhaqan?

Seriously, get out off here, you’ve crossed a line with your nonsense, so good luck.

 

[GeeljireGenius]

What's the point of asking questions like this other than to start arguments

 

[Kalsoon]

Both are important. There is no comparing them in my book. Key is to marry someone who will treat your mom with great love and esteem. He must honor my mom. Which would make this an easy answer-I would listen to my husband because he will want me to be a good daughter.