Oromos are against the GERD dam and view it as a tool for prolonging discrimination against them by Habashi?

[AbdiGeedi]

It looks like things are not what they seem in Ethiopia.

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

What they said is 100% true.

That Dam will only be beneficial to a small minority clique.

 

[AbdiGeedi]

What they said is 100% true.
That Dam will only be beneficial to a small minority clique.

I agree the dam could potentially become yet another source of conflict if the revenues are not shared equitably or used to oppress one Ethiopian ethnicity over another. Their army is already starting to function along the ethnic lines, isn't it?

 

[Octavian]

It looks like things are not what they seem in Ethiopia.

i have to ask in regards to independence who are the ones that are pushing for it is the diaspora or the ones that live in adistopia/ oromia

 

[AbdiGeedi]

i have to ask in regards to independence who are the ones that are pushing for it is the diaspora or the ones that live in adistopia/ oromia

Both diaspora and Oromia dwellers are split. What I want to know is if the push for independence is formed along the religious lines since Oromos have substantial numbers of both Muslims and Christians.

Our Ethiopian members, @xabashi and @Abba Sadacha , got at each other about that aspect in another thread and left me even more confused.

It seems for now especially orthodox christian Showans are his backbone. Without some oromo support in the OPDO and Oromia region, Abiy can never control the oromo uprising in less than 3 days without any hope of igniting it in the near future.

BS. Christian and Muslim oromos are both being killed and oppressed by abiy's army; if abiy was so confident in his support in oromia, he would not have delayed the elections, he would let the people speak through the ballots. his support base is the mostly urban, amhara nationalists.
he relies on them and the military to maintain power; basically like the tplf but with a different support base.

Are you saying he has no support in OPDO and Oromia state apparatus? Oromia police in cooperation with the federal police are the once who are putting the oromo uprising under control. How can the army alone control every city and town? Denying that he still has some segment of Oromo support is simply not true. Honestly, the hooligan qeerrroos also showed all Ethiopians they really don't have any political demand other than envy, destruction and vandalism, nothing zero nada. Many ordinary oromos are ashamed of them.

OPDO and the oromo people are two different things. It's Africa, whoever cuts the checks of the local security forces is who they're going to be loyal to, for the most part.
That was the case under TPLF for over 2 decades though, so that's not proving your point, oromia police and the army/federal were killing and jailing oromos back then too.
The support he has in oromia is small compared to the rising opposition, which he himself is fueling when he targeted oromo opposition, and even journalists like betty.
oh yeah? did you say the same about the amhara gangs targeting oromos in addis ababa? or the fact they too targeted oromo businesses? oh i forgot, only oromos can have ''bad apples,'' you see how hypocritical many of you habeshas are?!

 

[Octavian]

Both diaspora and Oromia dwellers are split. What I want to know is if the push for independence is formed along the religious lines since Oromos have substantial numbers of both Muslims and Christians.

Our Ethiopian members, @xabashi and @Abba Sadacha , got at each other about that aspect in another thread and left me even more confused.

religion is a factor and it seems like the adistopians bellow are quite fractured as one is saying that the oromos are the hooligans and the bad guys in this story while the other one is pointing hypocrisy while also saying that oromos are getting killed by amharas and that the quenching of the riots of wasn't that much to boast about as the police is corrupt perhaps this is a microcosm of how the average adistopian thinks about this issue both abroad and home ?

 

[xabashi]

Oromos are not against the dam, not even the extremists except very few individuals. My guess is 99% Oromos are behind the dam including the likes of Jawar who posted many times in support of the dam.
And there is no push for independence in Oromia, at least until now. Some angry diaspora calling for independence is not new but a push for independence is still nonexistence.

 

[Octavian]

Oromos are not against the dam, not even the extremists except very few individuals. My guess is 99% Oromos are behind the dam including the likes of Jawar who posted many times in support of the dam.
And there is no push for independence in Oromia, at least until now. Some angry diaspora calling for independence is not new but a push for independence is still nonexistence.

i have to ask how does the process of independence work and by that i mean what are the qualifications that must be meat in order for a region to leave ethiopia to either join a neighbouring country or become a nation

 

[Marshall D Abdi]

i have to ask how does the process of independence work and by that i mean what are the qualifications that must be meat in order for a region to leave ethiopia to either join a neighbouring country or become a nation

Good question actually didnt they have an actual article where they can leave

 

[xabashi]

i have to ask how does the process of independence work and by that i mean what are the qualifications that must be meat in order for a region to leave ethiopia to either join a neighbouring country or become a nation

There is a theoretical path to independence and it all starts in convincing and rallying your constituency for this cause. Currently I see no political party doing this. Practically, it is almost impossible to become independence and then live in peace. One example is that there is no demarcated colonial border and the moment a region becomes independence the border war will start immediately with almost all its neighbors. Even with colonial borders like between Ethiopia and Eritrea, we have seen how fast this problem can escalate. Honestly I see no peaceful path to independence.

 

[Octavian]

There is a theoretical path to independence and it all starts in convincing and rallying your constituency for this cause. Currently I see no political party doing this. Practically, it is almost impossible to become independence and then live in peace. One example is that there is no demarcated colonial border and the moment a region becomes independence the border war will start immediately with almost all its neighbors. Even with colonial borders like between Ethiopia and Eritrea, we have seen how fast this problem can escalate. Honestly I see no peaceful path to independence.

could u post any sources in regards to this path to independence

 

[Octavian]

Good question actually didnt they have an actual article where they can leave

source please

 

[Octavian]

There is a theoretical path to independence and it all starts in convincing and rallying your constituency for this cause. Currently I see no political party doing this. Practically, it is almost impossible to become independence and then live in peace. One example is that there is no demarcated colonial border and the moment a region becomes independence the border war will start immediately with almost all its neighbors. Even with colonial borders like between Ethiopia and Eritrea, we have seen how fast this problem can escalate. Honestly I see no peaceful path to independence.

i see so the path to independence is through war deception and occasionally killing politicians

 

[SoMal]

An independent Oromia is bad for the Horn. They are expansionists. Look at what they're claiming now.

 

[Octavian]

An independent Oromia is bad for the Horn. They are expansionists. Look at what they're claiming now.

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looks like a deformed one celled organism

 

[Djokovic]

Pretty stupid if an Oromo opposes the dam it will provide cheap electricity to the region which may spur on an industrial revolution

 

[Abaadir]

It looks like things are not what they seem in Ethiopia.

Oromos are dangerously backward dare I say worse than Zøømaliz

 

[AbdiGeedi]

Pretty stupid if an Oromo opposes the dam it will provide cheap electricity to the region which may spur on an industrial revolution

The Oromo logic is that the revenues from electricity sales which will surpass billions of dollars will be used to finance the Habashi-favoring Ethiopian system to keep Oromos as second class citizens. Look at Abiy or even the Ethiopian politicians of Somali descent. They all are basically Amhara futo lickers.

 

[Octavian]

The Oromo logic is that the revenues from electricity sales which will surpass billions of dollars will be used to finance the Habashi-favoring Ethiopian system to keep Oromos as second class citizens. Look at Abiy or even the Ethiopian politicians of Somali descent. They all are basically Amhara futo lickers.

why does the adistopian gov favor the habeshi s over the oromos

 

[AbdiGeedi]

why does the adistopian gov favor the habeshi s over the oromos

Because Oromos are viewed as peasants and lack the strategic acumen needed to govern. Even the Oromia region we know of today was created by Tigrayans (Habashi people). Look at the map below: