Say bismillah and dive inJust go in the sugar walls and ask god for forgiveness![]()
Say bismillah and dive inJust go in the sugar walls and ask god for forgiveness![]()
Been going on since the beginning of Islam saxibHeterosexuals have destroyed the institution of marriage with their 50% divorce rates and they are now having secret marriages, among many other bad things.
The nikaax is void without the permission of her walee regardless of her situation and this is the view of majority of the scholars.The Hanafi school of Islam believe a woman can be a wali for herself but I disagree with it
Exactly. Practically speaking, this type of practice benefits men much more so than it does women(even if the woman shares the same desires). If the average woman actually does agree to go along with this...imo, she lacks foresight. Where is the security in such a union??A very stupid practice and completely haraam. No sane woman would do this to herself.
ImpossiblePerhaps there are women who would want that type of relationship?![]()
Exactly. Practically speaking, this type of practice benefits men much more so than it does women(even if the woman shares the same desires). If the average woman actually does agree to go along with this...imo, she lacks foresight. Where is the security in such a union??
Not all madhabs agree on that. However Somalis are shafi'i and they don't usually allow it
That's a truly sad storyThis true story I came across on somalifaces page is a great example
"It happened two years ago. I was 16 years old when I fell in love for the first time with someone who lived in the same city as I, and it was my most painful experience. He suggested that we enter into a secret marriage (qudbo sirro) as opposed to a traditional marriage so that we can become a family. I was a student that lived with her family. Because I was in love with him, I was willing to do anything just to be with him. The next day, he brought two witnesses, and we were legally though secretly married. We became a secret family and lived happily as one until I fell ill. I went to the doctor, and he told me that I was several weeks pregnant. Overjoyed, I immediately rang my husband and told him the news. He became angry and told me never to contact him again, that the child was not his and that if I ever told anyone about it, I'd be in trouble. Only God knows how I felt that day. My world came crashing down. For a year and a half, I lived in a hellish situation; of insecurity, intolerable anxiety, no money and other things that I can't mention to you. Sometimes, out of desperation, I'd call him, sobbing like mad, begging him just to tell his family that the child is his, divorce me and that I will raise the child on my own. It felt like my words fell on deaf on ears. He never listened. I contacted his sisters, and they gave me the same treatment, telling me that their brother was already engaged and that they can't destroy his future. My brothers eventually found out that I was pregnant. Out of anger, they threatened to kill me, so I fled. I escaped from home, from my stable existence and sought shelter at a city council. I was temporarily placed in a camp that helps discriminated women. They granted me permission to stay there until I give birth. After a while, my contractions started and I passed out. I awoke a day later in a hospital. The doctors and nurses told me that I gave birth to the most beautiful girl that they have ever seen. I was over the moon, but it was short-lived. An hour later, the same doctors told me that my daughter had breathing complications and died. I falsely assumed that my days of hardship and despair would be behind me until they told me that awful news. I'm still recovering now. Secret marriages have destroyed many lives."
(Nairobi, Kenya)
No you're not you are trying to damn hard
First you had Fred written every comment of your like a signature and now it's ashy Abdi
And what happened to the whole henny and qaxwa business
I'm not fake fasting either nacasyahow
http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?264453-The-evidence-for-marriage-without-waliWhat?
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One question:
Why?
I know some people who married in their late teens while still being a student. They did it normally and nobody cared. Secret marriage is not needed
I am not as I have said countless times I don't agree but these are the justifications some people use I don't know what is wrong with you're ability to understand I DONT AGREE WITH THIS KIND OF STUFF. It is however something that occurs in the Somali community.So you're linking to an islamic forum? Do you understand what the purpose of a wali is? It's for the protection of the girl, therefore, no funny business. The deen is perfect as it is, you can't shape and mold it how you like.
I am not as I have said countless times I don't agree but these are the justifications some people use I don't know what is wrong with you're ability to understand I DONT AGREE WITH THIS KIND OF STUFF. It is however a prescribe that occurs in the Somali community.