ONLF war

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

Yussuf Dheere the founder was an Cidagaale

Na he was Waiten Absame.

 

[Gacanka Cadmeed]

I never heard of Afraad.
MSB destroyed WSLF by trying to place an Oromo as its leader while OLF had representation in Xamar just like TPLF or EPLF.

There were no Isaaq in WSLf dont confuse Isaaq in SNA fighting in 1977 & WSLF.

Search Afraad up

 

[Gacanka Cadmeed]

Na he was Waiten Absame.

Ok then.

 

[Gacanka Cadmeed]

Na he was Waiten Absame.

Afraad was still isaaqs trying to fight Ethiopia and stop the WSLF killing nomads

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

Afraad was still isaaqs trying to fight Ethiopia and stop the WSLF killing nomads

Let me tell you something even if SNM replaced ONLF and all its core members 100% become Isaaq still majority of Isaaq would not join the movement. Unless all Isaaq clans were represented
Just look SL now alot of Isaaq like Garxahis and Habar Jeclo want to dissolve SL just because of Muse Bixi.
Also SNM founding members like Cabdiraxman Tuur who was HY did not achieve his goal because it was Hyjacked by Cigaal who turned it into a Habro wars.
Today SL is synonymous with HA when SNM founding members were Garxajis and probably HJ.

Look at some fake dirty dir going to xamar like Dube with his fake somalia card just b3cause he was not given munisterial post by Muse Bixi or look at the Deputy PM who was born in Hawd and pretends to be wadani while he used to work in DDS as minister of Justice.

Garxajis have been pushed out and HA created the rift between Isaaq & Ogaden So that Garxajis would be busy fighting in Hawd while forget about their stake in Hargeisa.

 

[Gacanka Cadmeed]

Let me tell you something even if SNM replaced ONLF and all its core members 100% become Isaaq still majority of Isaaq would not join the movement. Unless all Isaaq clans were represented
Just look SL now alot of Isaaq like Garxahis and Habar Jeclo want to dissolve SL just because of Muse Bixi.
Also SNM founding members like Cabdiraxman Tuur who was HY did not achieve his goal because it was Hyjacked by Cigaal who turned it into a Habro wars.
Today SL is synonymous with HA when SNM founding members were Garxajis and probably HJ.

Garxajis have been pushed out and HA created the rift between Isaaq & Ogaden So that Garxajis would be busy fighting in Hawd while forget about their stake in Hargeisa.

I'm a habar jeclo and has many Habar Yunis relatives and we are all pro Somaliland.

 

[Gacanka Cadmeed]

Let me tell you something even if SNM replaced ONLF and all its core members 100% become Isaaq still majority of Isaaq would not join the movement. Unless all Isaaq clans were represented
Just look SL now alot of Isaaq like Garxahis and Habar Jeclo want to dissolve SL just because of Muse Bixi.
Also SNM founding members like Cabdiraxman Tuur who was HY did not achieve his goal because it was Hyjacked by Cigaal who turned it into a Habro wars.
Today SL is synonymous with HA when SNM founding members were Garxajis and probably HJ.

Look at some fake dirty dir going to xamar like Dube with his fake somalia card just b3cause he was not given munisterial post by Muse Bixi or look at the Deputy PM who was born in Hawd and pretends to be wadani while he used to work in DDS as minister of Justice.

Garxajis have been pushed out and HA created the rift between Isaaq & Ogaden So that Garxajis would be busy fighting in Hawd while forget about their stake in Hargeisa.

I don't get how you think Somaliland is a habar awal project when we had presidents of many clans.

 

[Gacanka Cadmeed]

Let me tell you something even if SNM replaced ONLF and all its core members 100% become Isaaq still majority of Isaaq would not join the movement. Unless all Isaaq clans were represented
Just look SL now alot of Isaaq like Garxahis and Habar Jeclo want to dissolve SL just because of Muse Bixi.
Also SNM founding members like Cabdiraxman Tuur who was HY did not achieve his goal because it was Hyjacked by Cigaal who turned it into a Habro wars.
Today SL is synonymous with HA when SNM founding members were Garxajis and probably HJ.

Look at some fake dirty dir going to xamar like Dube with his fake somalia card just b3cause he was not given munisterial post by Muse Bixi or look at the Deputy PM who was born in Hawd and pretends to be wadani while he used to work in DDS as minister of Justice.

Garxajis have been pushed out and HA created the rift between Isaaq & Ogaden So that Garxajis would be busy fighting in Hawd while forget about their stake in Hargeisa.

In fact my Awowo's first cousin is Abdirahman Tuur.

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

I don't get how you think Somaliland is a habar awal project when we had presidents of many clans.

Those presidents were nothing only Cigal and Muse bixi have full authority the rest had to give a sizable share to HA and HA were always VP.
Who was the wife of Riyaale or VP of Riyaale ( I might be wrong) but HA know how to play politics you either control it as individuals or control it through the bed

 

[Gacanka Cadmeed]

Those presidents were nothing only Cigal and Muse bixi have full authority the rest had to give a sizable share to HA and HA were always VP.
Who was the wife of Riyaale or VP of Riyaale ( I might be wrong) but HA know how to play politics you either control it as individuals or control it through the bed

That is fair but even so the lie that habar yunis are anti somaliland needs to stop.

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

I'm a habar jeclo and has many Habar Yunis relatives and we are all pro Somaliland.

HY were founders of SL and how have they been treated marginalised in Hargeisa and HA opened a war front with them with Ogaden in Hawd.

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

That is fair but even so the lie that habar yunis are anti somaliland needs to stop.

I said HY have been forced to embrace Somalia because of HA/ HJ.

I remember HJ almost losing their mind before Silanyo elections of trying to terminate the alliqnce of SL if he was not elected today alot of HJ are heading to Xamar.

I do believe its time for HY to lead SL.But then again HA will never allow this.

 

[Gacanka Cadmeed]

HY were founders of SL and how have they been treated marginalised in Hargeisa and HA opened a war front with them with Ogaden in Hawd.

Wadaani might win this election and also the war with ogaden has been going on for longer than somaliland

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

Wadaani might win this election and also the war with ogaden has been going on for longer than somaliland

Those wars are different between this current wars.
These current wars are instigated by HA in hope to make HY busy and streched out.
If HY us in conflict with Ogaden then they cannot think about Hargeisa

 

[Gacanka Cadmeed]

I said HY have been forced to embrace Somalia because of HA/ HJ.

I remember HJ almost losing their mind before Silanyo elections of trying to terminate the alliqnce of SL if he was not elected today alot of HJ are heading to Xamar.

I do believe its time for HY to lead SL.But then again HA will never allow this.

HJ do not want anything to do with xamar. Our politicians are not the people

 

[Gacanka Cadmeed]

Those wars are different between this current wars.
These current wars are instigated by HA in hope to make HY busy and streched out.
If HY us in conflict with Ogaden then they cannot think about Hargeisa

Wadaani will probably win the next election due to HJ getting frustrated nothing was built in Togdheer by kulmiye.

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

Wadaani will probably win the next election due to HJ getting frustrated nothing was built in Togdheer by kulmiye.

Look at that headless chicken Dubbe.
Seems like every Isaaq who doesnt get a slice of the cake rans tonXamar.

 

[Gacanka Cadmeed]

Look at that headless chicken Dubbe.
Seems like every Isaaq who doesnt get a slice of the cake rans tonXamar.

Those politicians are viewed as traitors by the ordinary people.

 

[Waaqmasho]

WSLF was created by Ogaden
Nasrulah was created by Ogaden
Even SYL was created in Jigjiga.

I dont know what reer xassan or mx ever created or fought for.
MSB destroyed WSLF and he also haunted ONLF when it was budding alot of them escaped abroad.

He also reduced the NFD liberation front to become bandits ill equiped and inflitrated by mx with aim of never making peace with Kenya or being formidable Successfully fighting the regimes in Nairobi. Which meant the civilians bore the brunt of the fatal mistakes they were doing.

You as a reer xassan are irrelevant in Ethiopian and Somalia politics itsbonly When madoobe made you VP in Jubbaland did you become relevant.

So do you expect us to rename it as SNF so that you can join it?
The same SNF that ran away from MSB in Gedo and left him at the mercy of Aideed and MSB had no option but to ran to Mandera.

WSLF was created by the kacaan, the kacaan ogaden officers like jess were a big help. It included every somali qabiil that's why they made substantial gains in territory from the xabashis. What else was created where is irrelevant.

MSB didn't destroy WSLF, he simply stopped supporting it inside Somalia. What destroyed WSLF was the fact that we lost the war in 1977.

Your other comments are irrelevant and don't make sense. I don't understand why you link mx to everything and like to compare everything with MX. Your accusations against mx are also false. Do you know how many ONLF lived or passed through gedo and caabudwaaq? Not a single ogaden got sold. You guys know your enemy don't waste your time attacking MX who did nothing to ONLF.

It isn't just important to change the name, it's also important to consult all somali clans in DDS from sitti to libaan, everyone should be consulted. Everyone should be included, and a way to divide things post-independence established.

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

WSLF was created by the kacaan, the kacaan ogaden officers like jess were a big help. It included every somali qabiil that's why they made substantial gains in territory from the xabashis. What else was created where is irrelevant.

MSB didn't destroy WSLF, he simply stopped supporting it inside Somalia. What destroyed WSLF was the fact that we lost the war in 1977.

Your other comments are irrelevant and don't make sense. I don't understand why you link mx to everything and like to compare everything with MX. Your accusations against mx are also false. Do you know how many ONLF lived or passed through gedo and caabudwaaq? Not a single ogaden got sold. You guys know your enemy don't waste your time attacking MX who did nothing to ONLF.

It isn't just important to change the name, it's also important to consult all somali clans in DDS from sitti to libaan, everyone should be consulted. Everyone should be included, and a way to divide things post-independence established.

WSLF was way before kacanka the kacanka was in 1970s while WSLF predates this.
Cumar Jess was not part of WSLF but SNA you need to educate yourself.

Secondly MSB not onlybdestroyed WSLF but also destroyed Somalia and created divisions and mistrust amongst Somalis same thing Farmajo is doing today no lesson was ever learnt.