One thing that I can't understand

[Mercury]

Is how loyal people are to their clan that they will defend the actions of another person.

In Somalia You have murderers, rapists, pedophiles all of them always being defended by their tribes when they should take a stand against the crimes he has committed

You killed someone your tribe is collecting blood money to pay back the family

You sexually molested a girl your tribe will again come to your defence and deny any wrongdoing from your end

People who blindly defend their clan even when they in the wrong are a disgrace

 

[Basra]

Mental disease called...... Abtiiris-titis


I told my habar gidir best friend i hate this & this qabil , really said mouthful, and she said, u made me so happy today i am buying u lunch. of course that was my plan. The moral behind this trick is sad indeed.

This is a woman who is more stingy than @Grigori Rasputin

 

[Mercury]

Mental disease called...... Abtiiris-titis

very brain dead

 

[Odkac WRLD]

A lot of people see their tribe as an extension of themselves.

 

[The Accountant]

I don't even understand how that shit happens. I hope the current constitution prohibits clan arbitration in settling blood crimes,if not Somalia is practically an anarchist state.

 

[King Khufu]

Is how loyal people are to their clan that they will defend the actions of another person.

You killed someone your tribe is collecting blood money to pay back the family

People who blindly defend their clan even when they in the wrong are a disgrace

Saxiib, you're out of line for calling out elders!!!
You understand better than this.

Things you're saying you misunderstand.
The traditions of favors and debts is very ancient - you can't just break!!!


Someone should wash hands and get some sleep. Zzzzzz's (No Mistakes)

 

[Sakiin]

Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "Help your brother, whether he is an oppressor or he is an oppressed one. People asked, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! It is all right to help him if he is oppressed, but how should we help him if he is an oppressor?" The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "By preventing him from oppressing others."

Bro it’s shocking how our people think. Sometimes I believe that our real tenets of belief is tribalism.

Islam has forbidden a lot of the haraam we are seeing in Somalia explicitly. Killing a fellow Muslim, stealing his property, bribery, corruption and rape etc...

When in actuality our beautiful religion teaches us that a Muslims blood, honour and wealth is inviolable.

 

[BetterDaysAhead]

Qabiil comes before islam in somalia sadly

 

[Basra]

Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "Help your brother, whether he is an oppressor or he is an oppressed one. People asked, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! It is all right to help him if he is oppressed, but how should we help him if he is an oppressor?" The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "By preventing him from oppressing others."

Bro it’s shocking how our people think. Sometimes I believe that our real tenets of belief is tribalism.

Islam has forbidden a lot of the haraam we are seeing in Somalia explicitly. Killing a fellow Muslim, stealing his property, bribery, corruption and rape etc...

When in actuality our beautiful religion teaches us that a Muslims blood, honour and wealth is inviolable.

If Suddenly drops ALL qabil abtiriis, phase out in generation, they will rely in the brotherhood and sisterhood of Islam.


Humans need bonding together in one cause. Qabil is next to blood kin brothers or sisters. Its DNA driven, vs Islam brotherhood is belief.

 

[Guardafui]

“If we do not maintain justice, justice will not maintain us” I mean look at Somalia is the main reason why we cannot function like a normal country. We need to re-examine a lot of our traditions and cultural norms.

 

[Mercury]

Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "Help your brother, whether he is an oppressor or he is an oppressed one. People asked, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! It is all right to help him if he is oppressed, but how should we help him if he is an oppressor?" The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "By preventing him from oppressing others."

Bro it’s shocking how our people think. Sometimes I believe that our real tenets of belief is tribalism.

Islam has forbidden a lot of the haraam we are seeing in Somalia explicitly. Killing a fellow Muslim, stealing his property, bribery, corruption and rape etc...

When in actuality our beautiful religion teaches us that a Muslims blood, honour and wealth is inviolable.

I saw a video a few days ago where this guy was making prayers too see more bloodshed of a certain clan and other horrible stuff and everyone around him where saying amiin amiin!

 

[bluebird]

they could at least use their tribes to build something good. like support their community, crowd funding, cleaning their city. but they only use it to protect killers like you said

 

[Yukon_Niner]

People are more loyal to qabil. Religion is just for maintaining image in Somalia.

Until the notion of qabil is wiped from Somalia I don't think we're gonna see progress.

 

[Macalin M]

A lot of people see their tribe as an extension of themselves.

I mean you’re right. My qabiil is an extension of myself.

 

[King Khufu]

The elders congregate to keep progress. Qabiil is good but being Somali alone is bad. I tell you whhy

It's just hard to keep funding!
So much money is more needed to make things considered complete.
Mouths are needed to eat, the young ones need shelter for the nights.

Without you being there, don't be so harsh to criticize until it affects you directly.

It is sad there is some bad that bubbles from wrong doers but some evils are slightly necessary but don't mistake that as a free pass to not have true unity because goodness is a strived for obtainment.

Let's fix bigger problems with our political structures like Congresses not coming together, taking paid delays, and passing proper bills for scam ones instead.
Those are much more worrisome than old men and women who are just trying to provide best for their people and families. Okay?

 

[Sakiin]

I saw a video a few days ago where this guy was making prayers too see more bloodshed of a certain clan and other horrible stuff and everyone around him where saying amiin amiin!

Saxiib forget people back home.

On this forum if you go to the Politics section...you will find youngsters who grew up in the West supporting and encouraging the killing of one tribe against another smh

HG v MJ
MX v OG
Darood v Hawiye
Isaaq v the rest

When will they realise that we are all brothers who share the same religion, ancestry and country?

 

[Farahslayer]

The reason people pay blood money isn’t because Somalis love bailing out murderers and rapists. It’s because these clans are scared about other clans taking the life of another innocent person.

The problem isn’t the blood money, it’s that psychotic Somali think Justice is killing another random innocent person from the tribe is justice.

You can observe it on this forum. If someone from a clan does something every member of that clan is culpable. Horta even women and children are culpable. Yaab.

Its not surprising why Somalis take it very personally if you insult their tribe.

Unless everyone is treated like an individual citizen, I highly doubt this blood money thing will go away. Who knows how many lives it potentially saved.

 

[Leila]

Is how loyal people are to their clan that they will defend the actions of another person.

In Somalia You have murderers, rapists, pedophiles all of them always being defended by their tribes when they should take a stand against the crimes he has committed

You killed someone your tribe is collecting blood money to pay back the family

You sexually molested a girl your tribe will again come to your defence and deny any wrongdoing from your end

People who blindly defend their clan even when they in the wrong are a disgrace

To think like you requires logic and compassion , something our people lack.

Somalis only respect people who they consider strong and powerful , It’s the result of our nomadic culture and history where only the strong survive.

 

[King Khufu]

Somalis only respect people who they consider strong and powerful

Untrue, money and manners is respected EVERYWHERE!

I highly doubt this blood money thing will go away.

Nope, and everytime a person commits abhorrent crimes than killers are called for to keep innocents safe.

 

[Mercury]

they could at least use their tribes to build something good. like support their community, crowd funding, cleaning their city. but they only use it to protect killers like you said

That would be amazing if many tribes worked together to build something great but in order to do so people need to leave their ego at the door and look at the bigger picture