One of the most hardcore former Kulmiye mouthpieces (Xildhibaan Dheeg) joins WADANI

[Foreman]

As you can see here Kulmiye was outnumbered in both regions in Sanaag and Togdheer by HY MPs who came out from UDUB and
UCID in 2005 parliamentary elections.


Total votes of UDUB and UCID votes in Sanaag = 51.74% while Kulmiye was 41.05%

. Same goes for Togdheer.

I knew you'd pull 2005 elections

HJ voted for UDUB and UCID too so you can't possibly count all votes from UCID and UDUB as HY because 45k HJ members cast their vote in favor of both parties.

Which begs the question, how come SL largest region have only 12 seat?! A more balanced representation system was needed. To that end Ceel Afweyn, Garadag, Dahar and Badhan become independent districts with B and C ranks.

 

[Bohol]

I knew you'd pull 2005 elections

HJ voted for UDUB and UCID too so you can't possibly count all votes from UCID and UDUB as HY because 45k HJ members cast their vote in favor of both parties.



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Which begs the question, how come SL largest region have only 12 seat?! A more balanced representation system was needed. To that end Ceel Afweyn, Garadag, Dahar and Badhan become independent districts with B and C ranks.

No in Sanaag HJ voted only for Kulmiye. They had only 3 MPs back in 2005 and their names are.


1.Dr Cabdi Raxman Yuusuf Cartan - 7984
2.Ibraahim Jaamac Cali (Rayte) - 7328
3.Yuusuf Maxamed Cali Xayd - 5854

 

[Foreman]

No in Sanaag HJ voted only for Kulmiye. They had only 3 MPs back in 2005 and their names are.


1.Dr Cabdi Raxman Yuusuf Cartan - 7984
2.Ibraahim Jaamac Cali (Rayte) - 7328
3.Yuusuf Maxamed Cali Xayd - 5854

Re-read my post Sanaag is massive region it can't be repreented by 12 seats. With that in mind HJ vote 45k to UDUB and UCID.

https://apd-somaliland.org/wp-conte...cessfully-hosted-its-first-Parliamentary-.pdf

 

[Bohol]

@Bohol what about 2012 elections? HJ had 29 seats in Sanaag, 29 in Togdheer,13 in Sool, 5 in Saaxil and 1 in Maroodi/Jeex

HJ in Sanaag mostly vote for Kulmiye and Rays while Sacad Yonis and Muuse Ismaaciil were strong backers of UDUB & UCID in Sanaag in the early days.



Magacyada Xildhibaanada Somaliland Oo Dhamaystiran waa kuwan 82 Xildhibaan ee Baro



The three HJ MPs in Sanaag.

1.Dr Cabdi Raxman Yuusuf Cartan
2.Ibraahim Jaamac Cali (Rayte)
3.Yuusuf Maxamed Cali Xayd

http://waridaad.blogspot.co.uk/2005/10/magacyada-xildhibaanada-somaliland-oo.html







The 5 HY Sanaag MPs

1. Maxamed Saalax Cige Cali

2. Maxamed Cumar Jaamac Jabaabul

3. Maxamed Cali Jibril

4. Ibraahim Maxamed Xuseen (Dhaadheere)

5..Suleebaan Cawad Cali (Bukhaari)

 

[Foreman]

Yet another reason to disregard 2005 elections results

HJ had 21k with 8 other candidates who didn't make it

HY had 23k with 6 other candidates who didn't make it.

Harti had 9k votes with 10 candidate who didn't make it.

19 candidiates with tens thousands of votes have not been taken into account.




This is precisely why Ceel Afweyn, Garadag, Dahar, Badhan districts have been formed, to give a better representation for Sanaag communities. Not surprisingly in 2012 Kulmiye and Rays won the majority of seats in Sanaag. More so than Wadani and Ummada.

 

[Bohol]

@Foreman Ceel Afweyn is not a new district it has existed since the 60s
and beyond. It is not the number of local MPs that determine the numbers but actual numbers
which each MP got and the total. Overall around 100k HJ voted in the parliamentary elections
while over 130k HY voted.

 

[Foreman]

@Foreman Ceel Afweyn is not a new district it has existed since the 60s and beyond. It is not the number of local MPs that determine
the numbers but actual numbers which each MP got and the total. Overall 100k HJ voted in the parliamentary elections while 135k HY
voted.

In the 2005 results there was no Ceel Afweyn, Garadag or Badhan. There was only Sanaag/Ceerigabo with 12 seats. How on earth a region with population boarding 400k are represented by 12 seat?

And check 2005 elections HY were 122k (9k non HY votes in Hargiesa) HJ totaled 115k overall. Wish they did a another one for 2010/2012 HJ come in force in these years

 

[Bohol]

@Foreman where is the proof there was no Ceel Afweyn district in 2005? It says 131k HY where did you get 9k minus from?



MP Salebaan Cawad Cali Bukhaari was chosen from Ceel Afweyn district in 2005.

 

[Foreman]

@Foreman where is the proof that was no Ceel Afweyn district in 2005? It says 131k HY where did you get 9k minus from?

You tell me how many seats have been allocated to Ceerigabo AND Ceel Afweyn?

 

[Bohol]

@Foreman HJ has always been smaller than HY (a grandson of Isaaq) nevermind Garhajis.


HY = 20.1% of Somaliland
HJ = 15.6% of Somaliland

 

[Bohol]

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You tell me how many seats have been allocated to Ceerigabo AND Ceel Afweyn?

Local Cidagale and some HY voted for Khadar Ambassador it wasn't only Cidagale though. 2 MPs came out in Ceel Afweyn district Cartan (Biciide) and Bukhaari (Sacad Yoonis) and another one in Garadag. The reason Ceerigaabo district had many MPs compared to Ceel Afweyn and Garadag is because the Muuse Ismaaciil are a large sub clan equal or larger than the entire HJ Sanaag that is
why I laughed at you thinking Ceerigaabo will be split in this upcoming election.

 

[Foreman]

@Foreman HJ has always been smaller than HY (a grandson of Isaaq) nevermind Garhajis.


HY = 20.1% of Somaliland
HJ = 15.6% of Somaliland

Estimation that has been made 100 years ago. Things have changed around here


HJ +15%

HA +20%

Arap +100%

Ciidagale +10%

HY -8%

 

[Bohol]

Estimation that ha been made 100 years ago. Things have changed around here


HJ +15%

HA +20%

Arap +100%

Ciidagale +10%

HY -8%

wishful thinking Mr 15.6%


The only reliable population survey akin to census taken in Somaliland is the general survey of British Somaliland.

 

[Foreman]

wishful thinking mr 15.6%

Sure mr -8%

 

[Gacanyare]

HY and HJ = the Tom and Jerry of Somaliland

 

[Foreman]

Local Cidagale and some HY voted for Khadar Ambassador it wasn't only Cidagale though. 2 MPs came out in Ceel Afweyn district Cartan (Biciide) and Bukhaari (Sacad Yoonis) and another one in Garadag. The reason Ceerigaabo district had many MPs compared to Ceel Afweyn and Garadag is because the Muuse Ismaaciil are a large sub clan equal or larger than the entire HJ Sanaag that is
why I laughed at you thinking Ceerigaabo will be split in this upcoming election.

3 seats for Ceel Afweyn + Garadag but 7 for Ceerigabo. Yup that's messed up.

 

[Bohol]

@Gacanyare they are just salty because of their small numbers compared to beesha potent sperm (HY).


Our main major urban centers in Somaliland: New Hargeisa, West Burco, Ceerigaabo.

HJ main urban center: East Burco



There is no competition. The entire HJ doesn't have a city of their own the size of Gashaamo nevermind New Hargeisa.

 

[Gacanyare]

beesha potent sperm (HY).

 

[oday1kenobi]

HY and HJ = the Tom and Jerry of Somaliland

 

[Bohol]

That is what the girls tell me.