There are some Hawiye who inter-marry with Muslim Oromo's, such as the Karanle, but as far as hawiye being oromo in origin?
i doubt it. would have to do some more research.
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There are some Hawiye who inter-marry with Muslim Oromo's, such as the Karanle, but as far as hawiye being oromo in origin?
i doubt it. would have to do some more research.
That only applies to a portion of one Hawiye subclan (karanle). Don't bother wasting time trying to prove such nonsense you won't find any evidence either genetic or historical records on such false claims.
Sure, if you say so, it's useless arguing with a hard headed and stubborn person; so yes, it is as you say!
So knowing tribal history is being hard headed? Gee thank you for opening my eyes to absolutely nothing. I've learnt so much from your wisdom and input into this topic. Pray tell what else can you educate me on ? I am very eager to learn more from you. If only Somalis were as knowledge about their own history as Oromo are on ours. O the difference it would make to our lives.
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Somalis need to get educated about these 'invasion of the bodysnatchers' ethnic group
You Oromos are playing a dangerous game. We won't fall for your fake "we iz muslim" act.
A good muslim is a good neighbour and respects our boundaries. Oromos have not been "good muslims" towards Somalis.
Whatβs going on here whoβs attacking my sweet @Halimo Supremist 
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@Abba Sadacha stop attacking @Halimo Supremist Hawiyes are somali not oromo you dumbfuck
@Abba Sadacha stop attacking @Halimo Supremist Hawiyes are somali not oromo you dumbfuck
Our lineage is Somali why can't Oromos claim themselves? Completely shameless seriously. First we're fellow muslims, neighbours, tribesmen then what comes next? These people are sick.
So knowing tribal history is being hard headed? Gee thank you for opening my eyes to absolutely nothing. I've learnt so much from your wisdom and input into this topic. Pray tell what else can you educate me on ? I am very eager to learn more from you. If only Somalis were as knowledge about their own history as Oromo are on ours. O the difference it would make to our lives.
O' wise one!
I've discussed things with you before, you're very stubborn, you're the same person who said somalis and oromo's do not look alike in the slightest bit, despite the fact that I personally have been mistaken for being somali by many somalis, even by ethiopians and white people; and i aint the only one....that's when I know you were a denier of self evident truths. so... it's pointless discussing things with you.
who said hawiye were oromo? i would curse you back, but im gonna hold my tongue for the sake of Allaah, but oweee it's not easy
For the sake of Allah stop being deceitful. We are both muslims and regardless of our ethnicities we should be honest with each other. You called me stubborn when I said Hawiyes are not Oromo. That clearly means you are disagreeing with my point.
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: Whoever claims to belong to anyone other than his father on him will be the curse of Allah and the angels and all the people.
I can easily cite plenty of examples of somali's committing war crimes against oromos too, yet I do not blame all somali's for that, nor does it make me hate all somalis for what some people did.
you want people to treat somalis with justice, yet you turn around and do not use that same logic for others- how fair is that? Do you ever reflect?
Ethnicity has no bearing on whether I tell the truth or not, I am gonna tell it how it is, for the sake of Allaah, ALWAYS, EVEN if I am talking to a mushrik!
I said you're stubborn, because I've discussed issues with you, and you refuse to admit any kind of resemblance or relations between people who have been neighbors for centuries. You deny it, due to your stubbornness, and perhaps feeling of superiority. What else would make a person deny what is obvious? Arrogance, pride, ignorance, are the top reasons people usually deny what is evidently true.
Has nothing to do with anyone claiming one group is the same as the other, has everything to do with how evident it is that we look alike, yet you vehemently denied any kind of similarities between us.
Somalis are not living in Oromia, nor do Somalis come to Oromia and pretend to be Oromo.
Islamically we have that in common but stop playing dumb here I gave you my reasons which you are deflecting from. Oromos are not an ethnic tribe but rather a confederation of different tribes. Somalis are closely related to Afars and Sahos as they are cushites. Most Somalis get over 95% Somali DNA so intermixing is uncommon across the board.
Their is no set lineage or features for Oromos as it is a confederation. I know a half white half Oromo girl who has 4c and a wide nose. This would be rare for a full blooded Somali and impossible with a mixed one.
Their is nothing wrong with claiming what you are. Why insist on what you are not and forcing this brotherhood that never existed ? Their is a big difference between being honest and stubborn. I am not going to lie to make you feel better about yourself. The truth will reman as it is. Like it or not.
Also thank you for ignoring my previous points and deflecting. Your integrity is glowing once again.
Acoothobillah who lied to you degodia maybe garre quranyow is somali the other one maybe itβs possible but madaxweyne dir? Wallahi youβve never met an issa person before they would burn you alive for ever even coming close to thinking that they are 100% somali all of them even these jarso flip-floppers
Oromo is an ethnic group, but we did assimilate a lot of others, because that was our culture back then, but that alone does not mean that ''we're not an ethnic group,'' you know little to nothing about Oromo's, so no.. you are not qualified to define what we are or aren't. We fit every criteria for an ethnic group, the very fact that I am sitting here stating simple, well known facts to an adult, shows something is wrong; either you have an internalized bias/hatred for Oromo's, that comes out when Oromo's are discussed, or you are simply ignorant. Indeed, as Ibn Qayyim said: if you want a taste of what's in a person's heart, pay attention to their words.
How do you know about our lineage, when you know nothing about us? Tell me more then, who is borana? who is barentu? what is maccaa, tuulama, arsi, jiddu, rayyaa, Horo, gurraachaa, Sadacha, Daalle, Dullacha, etc...and others? Do not google it, tell me from your knowledge, if you are truthful!
I've seen plenty of somalis with so called wide noses, that's a feature you can find all over the world, you can also find thinner noses all over the world- sorry, that's not good enough of an argument, try again please. Look at the Puntland president, dude has so called bantu features, is he not a somali? like it or not, somali's are diverse too, and there is no one single somali look, although i know you guys love and adore light skinned people with thinner noses and lips, and look down upon the darker peoples- except for those with common sense enough to know that all of Allaah's creations are beautiful, and it is the Piety of the heart, actions, beliefs, that makes one superior or inferior!
Oh, soooo Oromo's aren't a cushitic speaking peoples then? Lol, we're the largest group of cushitic language speakers. You are making it an entirely different argument, it's not about claiming what you are, and aren't- nobody is saying we're the same, but we're saying we're related, and share things, yet you are too stubborn to admit what is known by scholars, students, laymen and laywomen. This is once again, either due to stubbornness, ignorance, or perhaps arrogance mixed with a bit of anti Oromo hatred/feelings.
I've met plenty of somalis OFFLINE, and NONE would say we're not related, cousins in a sense, and they all assumed I was one of them, until asking and I confirmed my being Oromo.
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