October 21 1969 military coup footage

[Ximan iyo Xadeed]

The day we made the biggest mistake ever. The most cursed day

General Jaamac Qoorsheel was about to save Somalia from the socialist hellhole it came to be , unfortunately he was outed.

 

[Guillotine]

The Somali Republic was in a state of decay in those days and corruption and tribalism were rampant. After President Sharmaarke was assassinated, a civil war almost broke out, but the military takeover prevented this.

somalia's govt had rampant corruption and clan chauvinism even before since the day it was formed.

 

[Chaseyourdreamzz]

Somalis are 50/50 about the Kacaan, its very polarizing topic the leelkase boy who made this thread knows that.

I say let the past remain the past and lets learn from it, we have the present and the future to worry about.

Im a grown man in my 20s Why is my qabiil relevant in this topic This is Somali history not isku diir tactics

 

[Bahal]

Today is another historical landmark; Jan 26 1991. The dark day his holiness Siad was ousted from power by Ethiopian backed rebels promising us a brighter future only for them to follow him right out of the country (for my generation) while their descendants born in qaxootinimo calaacal online from London, Toronto, Minneapolis, Stockholm, and other white cities and countries kind enough to take them in.



What happened guys?



Where's the promised land of democracy and rainbows you fought so bitterly for?



You like the Ethiopians? The Kenyans? The Ugandans? The suicide bombers? The famines? The secessionists? Magafe and his merry band of human traffickers? The xenophobia? Getting told to go back to your country? The deportations? The misery? The humiliation? The bitter cold of winter?

Every single day that passes vindicates the blessed Zookeeper. In retrospect, it's remarkable to see him hold it all together for two decades. HSM can't even control two city blocks. The one and only mistake he made was losing the civil war. That is unforgivable and unfortunately his legacy.

 

[Dalalos_ibn_Adali]

Im a grown man in my 20s Why is my qabiil relevant in this topic This is Somali history not isku diir tactics

fair enough cousin, but you know my position in regards to Kacaan, and I consider people who make topics about Kacaan as an attempt to do isku dir its polarizing topic.

Also I have no cuqdad towards Leelkase but I don't know about you in regards to MX niyow, by the way I got my DNA results since you are head Nerd for Darood, they turned out to be as expected.

 

[World]

The Somali Republic was in a state of decay in those days and corruption and tribalism were rampant. After President Sharmaarke was assassinated, a civil war almost broke out, but the military takeover prevented this.

So the military prevented a civil war, and then created another civil war. Good job.

The Somali people loved each other in 1969, and there was true hope and optimism to build a great nation, which is why they welcomed the Kacaan. If a civil war occurred then, Somalia would have only improved from then onwards. We would build ourselves stronger.

Instead, Siad Barre created a far worse civil war and made the Somali people hate each other in the process, until present day.

 

[Chaseyourdreamzz]

fair enough cousin, but you know my position in regards to Kacaan, and I consider people who make topics about Kacaan as an attempt to do isku dir its polarizing topic.

Also I have no cuqdad towards Leelkase but I don't know about you in regards to MX niyow, by the way I got my DNA results since you are head Nerd for Darood, they turned out to be as expected.

it’s never that serious to be beefing about qabiil this is the internet

 

[Bahal]

So the military prevented a civil war, and then created another civil war. Good job.

The Somali people loved each other in 1969, and there was true hope and optimism to build a great nation, which is why they welcomed the Kacaan. If a civil war occurred then, Somalia would have only improved from then onwards. We would build ourselves stronger.

Instead, Siad Barre created a far worse civil war and made the Somali people hate each other in the process, until present day.

Absolute utter nonsense.

Somalis have been a collection of warring clans since time immemorial, murdering, looting, and displacing their fellow Somalis since the beginning of time. In the first two decades of the twentieth century alone, half of the population of Northern Somalia perished in internecine violence and subsequent famine.

The only people who "created" the civil war were the Ethiopian backed acronym groups who received financial and material support from Mengistu in order to permanently dismember Somalia, something they unfortunately succeeded in doing.

We also financed and supported a number of far more successful rebel groups who similarly overthrew Mengistu mere months after Siad's ouster; the EPLF which went on to seceed from Ethiopia and declared Eritrea independent (leaving Ethiopia landlocked), and the TPLF which went on to capture not only the capital but the rest of Ethiopia until the untimely death of Meles.

In our case, the SNM are still searching for independence after 33 years while the USC, after capturing the seat of power and unlike any other victorious rebel group in modern history, immediately began cannibalizing themselves and ultimately leading to Somalia as the world's first failed state.

Stop lying to yourselves.

 

[reer]

Every single day that passes vindicates the blessed Zookeeper.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

General Jaamac Qoorsheel was about to save Somalia from the socialist hellhole it came to be , unfortunately he was outed.

I learnt about a new hero today, thank you!

And his son was a Puntite politician also.

Korshel's son, Said Korshel, would later follow in his father's footsteps, entering politics and serving in the Puntland regional administration as a minister between 2002-2007 and the federal Government of Somalia as Minister of Transportation.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

It's very telling how a diverse range of Somalis criticise this man, and the only people defending him, are his own nephews. They lack empathy for people who are NOT them.

 

[Ximan iyo Xadeed]

I learnt about a new hero today, thank you!

And his son was a Puntite politician also.

His aabo was a true business genius, its a shame he didn't get rid of Siad.

Reer Qoorsheel some of the few Somali politicians who are selfmade millionaires

 

[FAST_LANE]

We held two democratic elections, Frist President Aden Adde gave power peacefully , and Sharmake replaced him and after his death, the constitution called for the PM to assume office till fresh elections. Siyad Barre Hijacked what was Africa's most promising democratic process and never held an election in 21 years till he was chased by the barrel of the gun and died in a toilet in Nigeria.

 

[attash]

So the military prevented a civil war, and then created another civil war. Good job.

The Somali people loved each other in 1969, and there was true hope and optimism to build a great nation, which is why they welcomed the Kacaan. If a civil war occurred then, Somalia would have only improved from then onwards. We would build ourselves stronger.

Instead, Siad Barre created a far worse civil war and made the Somali people hate each other in the process, until present day.

We don't know that. For all we know, the civil war that would have happened in 1969 could have been every bit as bad as the one that happened in '91. As for who gets blame for the civil war, blame goes to both Siad Barre and the jabhads. No one asked them to start a war against him and invite Ethiopians into the country. And if they wanted to fight him, they should have at least had a plan for how to run Somalia after his ouster. Instead they just chimped out.

It's about time we stop blaming a man who's been dead for 30 years for all of our problems.

 

[FAST_LANE]

We don't know that. For all we know, the civil war that would have happened in 1969 could have been every bit as bad as the one that happened in '91. As for who gets blame for the civil war, blame goes to both Siad Barre and the jabhads. No one asked them to start a war against him and invite Ethiopians into the country. And if they wanted to fight him, they should have at least had a plan for how to run Somalia after his ouster. Instead they just chimped out.

It's about time we stop blaming a man who's been dead for 30 years for all of our problems.

Very flawed reasoning. Have you asked yourself, why the Somali military didn't breakup along clan lines in 1969 coup and broke up along clan lines 1991? It's simple Siyad Barre introduced qabyaalad to our military. Siyad Barre didn't use his Marehan clan power to take over the nation in 1969 as Marehans were very poor people like they are today.

 

[attash]

Very flawed reasoning. Have you asked yourself, why the Somali military didn't breakup along clan lines in 1969 coup and broke up along clan lines 1991? It's simple Siyad Barre introduced qabyaalad to our military. Siyad Barre didn't use his Marehan clan power to take over the nation in 1969 as Marehans were very poor people like they are today.

Because there was no violence yet. If a civil war occurred between political parties in 1969 (who were clan based), the military would have split into clan lines the moment the first clan killings began.

 

[Aseer]

AUN Sharmake that guy was like the somali version of john.F.Kennedy

 

[FAST_LANE]

Because there was no violence yet. If a civil war occurred between political parties in 1969 (who were clan based), the military would have split into clan lines the moment the first clan killings began.

Siyad Barre arrested Aden Adde(Abgaal), Abdirizak Haji Hussien(MJ), and Igal(Isaaq). and they weren't released till 1973. Majority of Somali army where from those clans, but the army didn't break up and no civil war happened, but 20 years later the army broke up beyond repair

 

[Step a side]

Siyad Barre arrested Aden Adde(Abgaal), Abdirizak Haji Hussien(MJ), and Igal(Isaaq). and they weren't released till 1973. Majority of Somali army where from those clans, but the army didn't break up and no civil war happened, but 20 years later the army broke up beyond repair

Just to correct you, Aden Adde is ujajeen mudulood not abgaal.

 

[attash]

Siyad Barre arrested Aden Adde(Abgaal), Abdirizak Haji Hussien(MJ), and Igal(Isaaq). and they weren't released till 1973. Majority of Somali army where from those clans, but the army didn't break up and no civil war happened, but 20 years later the army broke up beyond repair

I said the military would have broken up if clan violence were to begin. Siyaad Barre did begin cracking down on politicians after he took power, but he didn't arrest people for clan reasons. He arrested anyone who opposed his coup, regardless of which clan they were from.