Nuerat Study is Out

[Garaad Awal]

Right now, I can think of the fact that they are concealing the ANA ancestry without breaking down the composition of SKH as a source.

They did run a qpadm model using Morocco_EN, Levant_N & Zagros_N. They were ~18% IBM like. P-Value wasn’t great tho. I think they are missing a Dinka-like source which would probably increase the P-Value.

 

[Cognitive]

That would make a lot of sense, honestly. Does it interfere with the total proportions? If so that'd really atrocious and unethical. Regardless I'm still very unfamiliar with these tools.
Dinka = also majority Mota/ ANA, right?

Off-topic: long time no see, lol. sadly you're off X and the alchemist isn't there either (not since the very beginning iirc). currently I finally have time to spare for these academically (for me) unrelated matters as my emotionally gruesome college years come to their final and bitter end.

 

[Garaad Awal]

That would make a lot of sense, honestly. Does it interfere with the total proportions? If so that'd really atrocious and unethical. Regardless I'm still very unfamiliar with these tools.
Dinka = also majority Mota/ ANA, right?

Dinka seem to be a composite of something Mota-like with their SAHG affinities and some West African ancestry. Mota & this old West African ancestry definitely has some ANA baked into it

Off-topic: long time no see, lol. sadly you're off X and the alchemist isn't there either (not since the very beginning iirc). currently I finally have time to spare for these academically (for me) unrelated matters as my emotionally gruesome college years come to their final and bitter end.

I’m on X, not going to bait my account but you will definitely find me tweeting on occasion about Cushitic/Horner genetics. Even posted some of my qpadm runs there too

 

[Cognitive]

Dinka seem to be a composite of something Mota-like with their SAHG affinities and some West African ancestry. Mota & this old West African ancestry definitely has some ANA baked into it

Pretty much similar to how I remembered. Though you mean "with their SAHG" or "without their SAHG"? Dinkas have SAHG affinities? The west African part = well attested and they probably got the signal in 2 major events.

I’m on X, not going to bait my account but you will definitely find me tweeting on occasion about Cushitic/Horner genetics. Even posted some of my qpadm runs there too

Probably will try to locate you.

 

[Midas]

The Helwan points are a good indicator of what travelled to the Levant. Mushabians were a result of North African males + whatever was in those Natufian-related sites.
The most interesting part is that Shuqba aka Natufians from the Shuqba cave resembled predynastic Naqada Egyptians in crania. They are broadly similar to Capsian crania too by a simple A B C logic. Regardless, yes, North African => Levanttine migrations are well attested. Even 20th century anthropologists believe this, and you know what 20th century anthropologists are (heroes, lol).

Its fascinating to me how the neolithic anatolian farmers were able to cross all of Europe and they're mixed anf/berber descendants were able to arrive in Egypt before Levantine farmers were able to cross the Sinai.

I also think naftufian hunter gather groups have probably been overrated. Since even as recently as 8000 b.c the faiyyum oasis was inhabited by Nilosahran hunter gatherers and the emmer wheat domesticated by neolithic farmers in the fertile crescent doesnt seem to present in eygpt till 5000 b.c

 

[Cognitive]

Natufians are vastly overrated. Vastly. Loads of samples shouldn't even be modeled with them for obvious reasons though unfortunately them remain a barely-acceptable substitute for the Lower Egyptian Epipaleolithic fishers and other similar but different things in the peninsula.
The Qarunian skull Aka a likely nilo-saharan predecesso/ MSA Nubian remnant represented populations living in dwindling refugiums as their ancient wet-saharan ways became gradually more unreliable. The rest you know (5k~4k BCE desertification drove populations to the nile, blah blah)

 

[Midas]

Natufians are vastly overrated. Vastly. Loads of samples shouldn't even be modeled with them for obvious reasons though unfortunately them remain a barely-acceptable substitute for the Lower Egyptian Epipaleolithic fishers and other similar but different things in the peninsula.
The Qarunian skull Aka a likely nilo-saharan predecesso/ MSA Nubian remnant represented populations living in dwindling refugiums as their ancient wet-saharan ways became gradually more unreliable. The rest you know (5k~4k BCE desertification drove populations to the nile, blah blah)

Yup a lot of these hunter gather communities living in the desert in the levant are heavily overindexed in people's imagination.

Ive also been unable to find anybdoy talking about why these neolithic farmes couldn't cross the Sinai amd arrive in eygpt for at least 4,000 + years. That seems like a gaping hole in any talk about the arrival of levantine pouplations in eygpt.