National ID launched. Live conference with the Prime Minister

I understand where you're coming from. But realistically speaking, they only way you can limit nationality is by prohibiting the people of Somalia to carry double-citizenship. That way you can easily regulate and control the subjects of Somalia. However, if you retain the option of allowing people to have another nationality, then it will be difficult to prevent neither Somalis of diaspora or Somalis of Kenya/Ethiopia/Djibouti to get IDs of Somalia.

Obviously, I personally don't agree we should implement limitations on any Somalis, but it the push comes to shove and the gov't decides to start regulate. Then they should only allow one nationality and do like Turkey and India, a 'diaspora residency/IDs' where Somalis outside of Somalia can through special ID documentations freely live in the country without any visa and treated as citizens and get all benefits except passports and thus no voting rights.
Most clans that live in Kenya, Ethiopia and Djibouti all have Caqils they can go to verify and process their citizenship. How will the national ID system even bypass this process? Is this even a thing in Southern Somalia?
 
Most clans that live in Kenya, Ethiopia and Djibouti all have Caqils they can go to verify and process their citizenship. How will the national ID system even bypass this process? Is this even a thing in Southern Somalia?

Tbh, I don't have deep knowledge of southern affairs. Just implementing any form of IDs seem to be an achievement in itself from the gov't point of view for now, let alone trying to implement it. I think they may address these issues as they come.
 
Tbh, I don't have deep knowledge of southern affairs. Just implementing any form of IDs seem to be an achievement in itself from the gov't point of view for now, let alone trying to implement it. I think they may address these issues as they come.
Then what's with the premature celebrations kkkk. Shouldn't all this be addressed at the point of announcement?

It's like a foundation stone laying ceremony for a project without ready made plans and later on not following through with it because it's not feasible.
 
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Then what's with the premature celebrations kkkk. Shouldn't all this be addressed at the point of announcement?

It's like a stone foundation ceremony for a project without ready made plans and later on not following through with it because it's not feasible.

True, but lower your expectations kkk. We're talking about Somalia after all. We have donors and partners we have to impress (EU, Pakistan, World Bank Group, UK, USA, Gulf Countries, ID4Africa, and UN agencies). The practicality concerns are secondary and internal matters. Let's not fumble away anything in attempts at speeding up the process. :whoa:

All jokes aside, I hope they have something in mind for the implementations process, which seems to be focused on urban areas under FGS control for now.
 

bidenkulaha

GalYare
@Arkan all that is being addressed over this two day conference. But it’s hours long and many experts were asking questions haven’t got time to watch it beyond the political speech
 

bidenkulaha

GalYare
In March 2021 security forces in Mogadishu arrested a man suspected of Al-Shabab membership. He denied links with the militant group, and gave a fake name. It took six months just to identify him. Authorities acting on a top finally went to a rehab Center where he falsely told he defected only to get released and continue killing, Officials said.

Somalia did not have a central national database and identification system where security forces can check against the veracity of information suspects or anyone else gives.

The man who gave the fake name was indeed the same man convicted, in absentie for the twin explosions on Badar restaurant and Bilan hotel in Baidoa on October 13, 2018, which claimed the lives of 21 people and injured 40 others. voanews.com/a/two-blasts-i…

He realized the government did not have biometric data of him, so he just went to reside another town, and continued to work with al-Shabaab. He is now serving life imprisonment.

Justice officials said al-Shabab members lie about their identities, and lack of identifying and registration system is hampering delivery of justice and catching criminals.

On July 24, 2019, the late Mayor of Mogadishu Abdirahman Omar Osman was fatally injured in a suicide bombing by one of the regional officials working with him, a blind woman who for years used a fake name. A second woman who assisted her in the attack also used a fake name, and she remains at large.

Lack of identification system is also helping al-Shabab carry out IED attacks. Al-Shabab uses SIM cards and mobile phones for detonating some IEDs.

The United Nations Assistance Mission in Somalia (UNSOM) and the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) published a report which documented the death of 309 people and injuries of 556 others, all of them civilians, resulting from109 IED attacks, from January 2020 to 31 December 2021. unsom.unmissions.org/sites/default/…

These include vehicle-borne improvised explosive devices (VBIED), suicide attacks using both vehicle-borne improvised explosive devices (SVBIED) and person-borne improvised explosive devices (PBIED), and victim-operated improvised explosive devices (VOIED), the report said.

The UN report did not specify which IED attacks Al-Shabab SIM cards and mobile phones for detonation. But police in Somalia said Al-Shabab uses the technique freely because security agencies cannot trace the identity of people who are obtaining SIM cards from telecommunication companies. Al-Shabab has back up system to remotely detonate devices if other techniques malfunction, and this often involves mobile phones, says a police officer who studied al-Shabab IED attacks but asked not to be identified. Telecommunication companies said they do register SIM cards but have no means of verifying a person’s identity in the absence of a national identification system.

In 2020, the Somali government approved the National Identification and Registration Authority Establishment Law, which led to the creation of the Population Identification and Registration Authority.

Mukhtar Hussein Mohamed Qoransay, who was then the Director General of the Population Identification and Registration Authority told me that the identification system is important for the government in order to secure the security, find criminals, and identify terrorists as well as providing services, for internal revenue purposes and taxation collection.

Colonel Hassan Ali Nur Shute, chief of the military courts told me at the time that it is imperative to have information other than the one provided by the suspected person in order to verify identity and information given.
 

bidenkulaha

GalYare
In March 2021 security forces in Mogadishu arrested a man suspected of Al-Shabab membership. He denied links with the militant group, and gave a fake name. It took six months just to identify him. Authorities acting on a top finally went to a rehab Center where he falsely told he defected only to get released and continue killing, Officials said.

Somalia did not have a central national database and identification system where security forces can check against the veracity of information suspects or anyone else gives.

The man who gave the fake name was indeed the same man convicted, in absentie for the twin explosions on Badar restaurant and Bilan hotel in Baidoa on October 13, 2018, which claimed the lives of 21 people and injured 40 others. voanews.com/a/two-blasts-i…

He realized the government did not have biometric data of him, so he just went to reside another town, and continued to work with al-Shabaab. He is now serving life imprisonment.

Justice officials said al-Shabab members lie about their identities, and lack of identifying and registration system is hampering delivery of justice and catching criminals.

On July 24, 2019, the late Mayor of Mogadishu Abdirahman Omar Osman was fatally injured in a suicide bombing by one of the regional officials working with him, a blind woman who for years used a fake name. A second woman who assisted her in the attack also used a fake name, and she remains at large.

Lack of identification system is also helping al-Shabab carry out IED attacks. Al-Shabab uses SIM cards and mobile phones for detonating some IEDs.

The United Nations Assistance Mission in Somalia (UNSOM) and the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) published a report which documented the death of 309 people and injuries of 556 others, all of them civilians, resulting from109 IED attacks, from January 2020 to 31 December 2021. unsom.unmissions.org/sites/default/…

These include vehicle-borne improvised explosive devices (VBIED), suicide attacks using both vehicle-borne improvised explosive devices (SVBIED) and person-borne improvised explosive devices (PBIED), and victim-operated improvised explosive devices (VOIED), the report said.

The UN report did not specify which IED attacks Al-Shabab SIM cards and mobile phones for detonation. But police in Somalia said Al-Shabab uses the technique freely because security agencies cannot trace the identity of people who are obtaining SIM cards from telecommunication companies. Al-Shabab has back up system to remotely detonate devices if other techniques malfunction, and this often involves mobile phones, says a police officer who studied al-Shabab IED attacks but asked not to be identified. Telecommunication companies said they do register SIM cards but have no means of verifying a person’s identity in the absence of a national identification system.

In 2020, the Somali government approved the National Identification and Registration Authority Establishment Law, which led to the creation of the Population Identification and Registration Authority.

Mukhtar Hussein Mohamed Qoransay, who was then the Director General of the Population Identification and Registration Authority told me that the identification system is important for the government in order to secure the security, find criminals, and identify terrorists as well as providing services, for internal revenue purposes and taxation collection.

Colonel Hassan Ali Nur Shute, chief of the military courts told me at the time that it is imperative to have information other than the one provided by the suspected person in order to verify identity and information given.
6 months to realise someone lied about their name. I’m sure there’s worse examples too. We’re 100 years behind some countries
 

bidenkulaha

GalYare

For more than three decades, Somalia's digital identity system remained stagnant, untouched by the major technological changes sweeping the globe. That standstill is now coming to an end, says Somali Prime Minister Hamza Abdi Barre.

In a historic move, Barre convened a two-day conference in Mogadishu on Saturday, marking the official return of civil registration and the issuance of national ID cards.

“Today marks a great day for Somalia as we finally lay the foundations of a reliable and all-inclusive national identification system that is recognized worldwide,” Barre said.

After the official inauguration of the system Saturday by the prime minister in Mogadishu, the President of the Federal Republic of Somalia, Hassan Sheikh Mohamud, who was in the city of Dhusamareb commanding the fight against al-Shabab militants in central Somalia, received his national identification card.

“The ID card issuance was started by the president and the PM and it is part of a rollout in the country, which every Somali citizen is eligible to acquire,” a government statement said.

“It is a significant milestone in Somalia’s state-building journey. The national ID rollout is set to enhance security and address crucial national issues,” Mohamud said as he received his card.

Digital identity systems, often referred to as eID, are the bedrock of Somalia’s new digital services. The government says they empower citizens to exercise their liberties and businesses to operate efficiently.

“Through this system, the government reaffirms its endeavor to ensure that Somali citizens enjoy equal rights with regard to the participation of all national commitments,” Barre said.

Barre cited the need to combat security threats, terrorism and identity fraud as compelling reasons to introduce a national ID.

“This system will boost our businesses and economy, our banks, communication and Hawala money transfer systems. It will strictly deal with terror networks and the fight against extremism,” Barre said.

In a video message to the conference from the front line in central Somalia, Somalia’s minister of Interior, Federal Affairs and Reconciliation, Ahmed Moallim Fiqi, reiterated the importance of a reliable national ID for the government's fight against al-Shabab militants.

“A national identification system is a powerful tool in our fight against extremism, providing a sense of belonging and identity to our citizens,” Fiqi said. “National ID is not only a piece of plastic, but it represents access to essential services like health care, education, elections and economic opportunities to the Somali people.”

In March, Somalia's upper house passed the National Identification and Registration Authority Bill, which enables every Somali citizen to legally register their identity and gain access to the government and private services to which they are entitled.

Somali government officials, businessmen, members of civil society and international partners were among participants in the conference in Mogadishu.

Speakers at the conference included United Nations Special Representative of the Secretary-General for Somalia Catriona Laing and the World Bank country manager, Kristina Svensson.

Those who spoke at the conference expressed optimism that the national ID will help in the fight against the al-Shabab terror group.

The story of Somalia's digital identity resurgence finds its roots in the turbulent year 1991, when the national citizen registry collapsed. National unrest, instability, disorder and economic turmoil led to the downfall of government leadership and the disintegration of the registration system.
 
Issuing IDs is a State Exclusive power, and the federal government has no constitutional nor legal standing to meddle in State affairs. If the Fed. gov't succeeds in overstretching its authority in this regard, which I consider a litmus test, then it shall be the end of Federalism.
 

FBIsomalia

True Puntlander
VIP
Issuing IDs is a State Exclusive power, and the federal government has no constitutional nor legal standing to meddle in State affairs. If the Fed. gov't succeeds in overstretching its authority in this regard, which I consider a litmus test, then it shall be the end of Federalism.
HAG from day one they were against Federalism. They want kacaan era to return back, it seems they didnt learn from history.
 
World Bank manager delivered message saying she wants Somalia to have a national ID by the end of her term and is what she has been pushing for most

UN representative for Somalia describes today as a monumental moment for Somalia
Do the opposite of what they say, they want to make us debt slaves.
 

bidenkulaha

GalYare
Gudoomiyaha Golaha Shacabka


I hope this is tied to the coming national elections!

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