GENETICS My results.....

Oh no, I didn't mean to insult i'm just a total noob when it comes to g25 and I was making sure my fits were close enough. I'm very thankful for what you have done for me genuinely, much of my own knowledge in regards to history and genetics is all thanks to you.
Nah, I did not say it defensively. It was just to let you know that I did those runs yesterday and just closed the page on it, lol. So to redo it and run them all over again is a drag, is all. Plus the results are mostly interpretive in iterative measures. Like the stuff with the Mediterranean ancestry. It's not really that obvious. The result I showed you was not perfect, but it encompasses extra foreign stuff, which is good enough.
 

Doctorabdi

A nomad with no true place
Some entire tribes become Arabophone like the Jebala Berbers of Northern Morocco. Genetically they are basically Berber + significant S.Euro ancestry yet identify as Arab speakers but culturally maintain way too many Amazigh customs and they have been like that for centuries. Arab ancestry eventually diffuses tho so most Berbers today have some Natufian signal in their dna except super isolated tribes.

Also people don’t realize but Arab clans have been in some parts of the Maghreb absorbed by larger Berber confederations. I have read of historical cases in Morocco of that happening. I have also seen a few Berbers who ended up in Arabian clades of J-p58 including one of those rabid Berber nationalists :dead:
I see, very intriguing stuff. I've seen a 23andme result + g25 with pretty much full berber ancestry but the dude is an idrisid descendant and has an arabian haplogroup, stuff is wacky
 
This reminds me a lot of the recent carthaginians/punic raw results, that are very southern european-like or very shifted. Although they adopted the punic gods, language etc they were virtually had little actual levantine ancestry. Very intriguing stuff
They were watered-down complex Mediterranean mixed Phoenician descended peoples. Punics were basically going back and forth, mixing.
 

Doctorabdi

A nomad with no true place
Nah, I did not say it defensively. It was just to let you know that I did those runs yesterday and just closed the page on it, lol. So to redo it and run them all over again is a drag, is all. Plus the results are mostly interpretive in iterative measures. Like the stuff with the Mediterranean ancestry. It's not really that obvious. The result I showed you was not perfect, but it encompasses extra foreign stuff, which is good enough.
I see, thank you for your time seriously. God knows, how much I owe you.
 

Doctorabdi

A nomad with no true place
@Garaad Awal
By the way, could you check what my Eurasian-SSA ratio is and my closest populations? Is it any different from your son or? Thank you abti

I can't find, the west eurasian non-eurasian cords for some odd reason
 

Garaad Awal

Former African
@Garaad Awal
By the way, could you check what my Eurasian-SSA ratio is and my closest populations? Is it any different from your son or? Thank you abti

I can't find, the west eurasian non-eurasian cords for some odd reason
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Some entire tribes become Arabophone like the Jebala Berbers of Northern Morocco. Genetically they are basically Berber + significant S.Euro ancestry yet identify as Arab speakers but culturally maintain way too many Amazigh customs and they have been like that for centuries. Arab ancestry eventually diffuses tho so most Berbers today have some Natufian signal in their dna except super isolated tribes.

Also people don’t realize but Arab clans have been in some parts of the Maghreb absorbed by larger Berber confederations. I have read of historical cases in Morocco of that happening. I have also seen a few Berbers who ended up in Arabian clades of J-p58 including one of those rabid Berber nationalists :dead:

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Doctorabdi

A nomad with no true place
It's likely paternally speaking as you were talking about, it's some sort of southern european or med population that i'm descended from. That I guess explains why there's a bit of an increase of european-related ancestry.

L3H2 is native to east africa so that makes sense
 

Doctorabdi

A nomad with no true place
Ohh, yup. I refer to what I said about G-L91 from the previous discussion. L3h2 is Somali, entirely Cushitic, and is of the early migration with E-V32.
Intriguing, so said mtdna pretty much stayed in and around east africa. Would you say it's from the ancestral east africans or?
 
Intriguing, so said mtdna pretty much stayed in and around east africa. Would you say it's from the ancestral east africans or?
It is northeast African. It entered the Horn of Africa with the migration of Cushites from Sudan, the latter of which still has individuals upstream with other Cushites and an undefined sub-structure of Somali in that related section.
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The Yemeni samples are Somalis who went over to Yemen during the early period of Islam. It could be a perfect capture of bi-directional migration that introduced Islam. Trade was always present throughout our presence in the region.

The L3h2 is too young to be AEA. Its parent clade L3h could be.
 

Arabsiyawi

HA Activist.
@Arabsiyawi You were right, but might I ask how does one find their subclade?
I think this is the deepest you can go so far without paying extra. With a little bit of research the guesswork can help you narrow it down tbh.
But if you’re willing to pay you can just buy a kit from any company. I personally tested with FTDNA.
Yo, what tool did you use to predict the mtDNA, again? I seem to have used one of them years ago but forgot.
There’s this for mtdna https://ytree.morleydna.com/
 

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