I don't know where to begin.I thought it was a phase but my father seems to constantly treat me like a child and often "kaftan" with me.I am 18 all throughout my life I thought this type of attitude was normal.
I have never been out with friends of any sort and if I come home from designated locations maybe 20 mins late.I am insulted and called ciyaal suuq.The result is that I have no "close" friends but plenty of odd acquaintances.It seems to have a psychological effect on me.
I drift apart from people because of this, after asking people for advice they told me when I finish school I'll be better.1st year uni is not only similar but worse , 100 questions a day and checking my results constantly. 2nd year is starting and he has told me I can't take the scholarship to Japanese top university in terms of physics.Even though it's all expenses paid and a once in a life time experience. I feel pressured to go my own way as I wish to mould myself into someone I feel comfortable with.Not someone who feels like a stranger in my own skin.
Finally I believe this has affected me mentally.often this "kaftan" is in an insulting manner and hence even if I know it's "joking" it has made me subconsciously believe I'm not worth shit. I have told him about this but he ignores me and treats me similiarly.Emotions are often treated as "naag" in Somali culture and it's no different in my household.
I'm expected to be a typical alpha male but it eats at ur insides and I don't think growing up like this was good for me.
I think I will visit a therapist as my university offers free therapy , I just wanted to ask if anyone else suffers from this type of "kaftan".Is it normal to feel like this thx.
This can have some serious effects on your character and even on your manhood. It can lead to you being a doormat and others can disrespect you without repercussions. I think it's a toxic environment and get your own room. Become a man. And by hook or by crook, make sure you do that program in Japan. I studied abroad for a semester, and I loved it. One of the best half year in my life so far.
I am sure he will respect you if you grow some backbone and stood up for yourself.
Are you gay sxb ?I don't know where to begin.I thought it was a phase but my father seems to constantly treat me like a child and often "kaftan" with me.I am 18 all throughout my life I thought this type of attitude was normal.
I have never been out with friends of any sort and if I come home from designated locations maybe 20 mins late.I am insulted and called ciyaal suuq.The result is that I have no "close" friends but plenty of odd acquaintances.It seems to have a psychological effect on me.
I drift apart from people because of this, after asking people for advice they told me when I finish school I'll be better.1st year uni is not only similar but worse , 100 questions a day and checking my results constantly. 2nd year is starting and he has told me I can't take the scholarship to Japanese top university in terms of physics.Even though it's all expenses paid and a once in a life time experience. I feel pressured to go my own way as I wish to mould myself into someone I feel comfortable with.Not someone who feels like a stranger in my own skin.
Finally I believe this has affected me mentally.often this "kaftan" is in an insulting manner and hence even if I know it's "joking" it has made me subconsciously believe I'm not worth shit. I have told him about this but he ignores me and treats me similiarly.Emotions are often treated as "naag" in Somali culture and it's no different in my household.
I'm expected to be a typical alpha male but it eats at ur insides and I don't think growing up like this was good for me.
I think I will visit a therapist as my university offers free therapy , I just wanted to ask if anyone else suffers from this type of "kaftan".Is it normal to feel like this thx.
Thanks for the advice , I like how you have taken a rational approach. I have spoken with him and he hasn't adequately explained why he does as he does. It often ends with mocking of my grievances as well as reaffirmation of me being , to put it subtly, unintelligent. I thought it was rather due to first me being in highschool and hence I simply focused on that. However afterwards ,the superiority complex didn't stop . which was annoying. Don't get me wrong I love my parents for all their faults and I'm probably just going through a phase but I have seen negative effects of the attitude.I seem to have taken on the role of being oppressive and harsh towards my siblings subconsciously. its a coping mechanism and hence continues these type of actions. Thats my biggest fear , doing the same thing to my possible child one day, to put it frankly I used to repress my emotional sadness through ography / masturbation a couple years ago.However once I stopped that habit the full brunt of the statements would seem to irk me.Hey bro, you need to chill and remember the efforts of your parents from your birth to the opportunities you got that many millions of Somali kids never had. Your dad is obviously harsh but most Somali parents have similar overbearing parents, and it is out of love. You have two years left for your degree, so use the free housing, the free food, the amble love you get from your parents despite the difficult social life you have, it will be for the better saxib. It is called tough love and based on your personality on here, you seem someone capable and respectful.
Many young Somali men fell of the cracks and became drug addicts and thugs. Your dad must be worried about those facts in the Somali community.
My suggestion to you is, you go with him to where he is most comfortable and relaxed and tell him you have grown up and his efforts and harsh discipline make you into a real man, play that psychology up saxib and make him feel like a king. Ask him to trust you because you have grown to the man he wanted you to be and now it is time for you to be on your own with less supervision. He may scream at you perhaps or get physical, but this will make him revaluate. HE MAY NOT BE AWARE OF WHAT HE IS DOING. It is your job as his loving son to show him the way. Time you give the same LOVE he showered on you for 20 years saxiub.
I felt the same way before and though my Dad was too strict, but thanks to him, I am safe now. I am the type who once they develop a passion for something, just take that in to death and can't help themselves. So it was good I showed up in the US with strict background and discipline.
get that qowmu lut sht outta here.Are you gay sxb ?
With Somali parents, they'll never understand their kids troubles or worries.... it's really weird, and most of the time they don't even want to hear it.
I know a lot of kids who just end up moving away because of the mental stress that they go through because of their parents and it has helped.
Thanks for the advice , I like how you have taken a rational approach. I have spoken with him and he hasn't adequately explained why he does as he does. It often ends with mocking of my grievances as well as reaffirmation of me being , to put it subtly, unintelligent. I thought it was rather due to first me being in highschool and hence I simply focused on that. However afterwards ,the superiority complex didn't stop . which was annoying. Don't get me wrong I love my parents for all their faults and I'm probably just going through a phase but I have seen negative effects of the attitude.I seem to have taken on the role of being oppressive and harsh towards my siblings subconsciously. its a coping mechanism and hence continues these type of actions. Thats my biggest fear , doing the same thing to my possible child one day, to put it frankly I used to repress my emotional sadness through ography / masturbation a couple years ago.However once I stopped that habit the full brunt of the statements would seem to irk me.
Finally , I have used your statement of "he does whats in your favour" to justify this but It doesn't help my situation and I have seen the impact it has had on my older sisters.I personally do not want to go into that.
We don't have such courts here in perth with a small muslim population and even smaller somali population.My father suffers alot so i can understand the spikes of anger , I can understand but cant tolerate it. I plan to leave once I finish university, I feel as if I'm being hindered from my aspirations through discouragements.However I will try to change the household.Then for the sake of your siblings, you make a sacrifice and show your dad the better approach. Even get the Mosque involved. That will get his attention. Time to take your dad to the court of Islamic opinion without megaphone. Him, you and a select few. You need to do this not only for yourself but for your siblings. Your dad needs to learn the downside of being too harsh which can bring about the opposite of what he is running from. Just as you would educate any other person you care about on what they need to do, this mission to change your dad for the better is a good cause. Leaving the house with your dad still not hearing a solid counter opinion will be a big mistake.
Get people who matter to him involved. Leaving the house is not an option considering what you leave for aren't as worthy as giving your siblings a better environment that helps them grow into good adults who retain the bond with their parents at the same time thrive as healthy adults.
No I haven't ever heard him say that, I'm no neef. To be frank I have elders around the area coming to me to congratulate me for being the few Somalis to enter "X" university. I am on a successful path and if my parents fear for me in one of the safest regions of the world than its a saddening hindrance. I don't leave the house as I am not allowed to leave by myself other than to certain places. I also understand what you mean by jealousy, all my mothers friends are single mothers which is weird but just shows you the negative direction people take into raising children.@CangeeroBear
Does your father say things like:
Waar where is tii?
When you enter the house does he say:
Waar Tii baa soo gashey?
Tii is she.
You’re problem is that your father isn’t against you.
He just wants you to be alive. There’s an immense pressure and jealously in the community towards Ciyaal kacaan fathers who are married to their wife and remain in the house with their children.
You need to stop being a neef and man the f*ck up!
Have a serious talk with him and tell him the data on fatherless Somali kids and how they are 5X more likely to be criminals, homeless, have mental health issues and so forth and so forth.
We don't have such courts here in perth with a small muslim population and even smaller somali population.My father suffers alot so i can understand the spikes of anger , I can understand but cant tolerate it. I plan to leave once I finish university, I feel as if I'm being hindered from my aspirations through discouragements.However I will try to change the household.
No I haven't ever heard him say that, I'm no neef. To be frank I have elders around the area coming to me to congratulate me for being the few Somalis to enter "X" university. I am on a successful path and if my parents fear for me in one of the safest regions of the world than its a saddening hindrance. I don't leave the house as I am not allowed to leave by myself other than to certain places. I also understand what you mean by jealousy, all my mothers friends are single mothers which is weird but just shows you the negative direction people take into raising children.
Perhaps my fathers intention is well meaning , which I'm sure it is, however it still has negative effects on me."Man the f*ck up" for 20 years of my life is what causes suicide attempts and depression within communities. This mentality has caused me to see so many of friends just drink their sorrows away, depression is a and I don't want to go down such a road.
Then for the sake of your siblings, you make a sacrifice and show your dad the better approach. Even get the Mosque involved. That will get his attention. Time to take your dad to the court of Islamic opinion without megaphone. Him, you and a select few. You need to do this not only for yourself but for your siblings. Your dad needs to learn the downside of being too harsh which can bring about the opposite of what he is running from. Just as you would educate any other person you care about on what they need to do, this mission to change your dad for the better is a good cause. Leaving the house with your dad still not hearing a solid counter opinion will be a big mistake.
Get people who matter to him involved. Leaving the house is not an option considering what you leave for aren't as worthy as giving your siblings a better environment that helps them grow into good adults who retain the bond with their parents at the same time thrive as healthy adults.