Museveni Threatens to Withdraw Ugandan Forces from Somalia

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

Its a win win, the reason he has troops in the first place, is to protect himself against any military coup and get the payments. The more troops away, the longer he can stay. Bring them back, the dictator would be on borrowed time

He kept sending his soilders to Congo before he discovered AMISOM cash cow.

 

[Som]

Museveni is litteraly a dictator who steals elections every single time. How can he criticize somali politicians ?

 

[reer]

Amisom is doing nothing besides holding positions. All the ground work is being conducted by the SNA. Even if Amisom leaves I don't think we would end up like Afghanistan. Not that quickly at least

the sna is clan militias on government payroll. they will rarely heavily fight across clan territories to fight shabab. and when there is clan beef @Thegoodshepherd pointed out they will not absorb a rival clan militia. compared to shabab who defeated multiple militias and some surrendered while they absorbed others or parts of them. somaliland are happy to absorb rival militia. same with puntland. they will absorb a rival militia and put them on their payroll. the only fighting force that doesnt resemble a national army is sna.

 

[Calaf]

He kept sending his soilders to Congo before he discovered AMISOM cash cow.

And whenever the AMISOM gig is over, he will find a new place if he is alive. Afganistan, Congo, Central African Republic, If those troops return to Uganda, he will surly be deposed in a Coup, after all, rule no.1 in the Dictator handbook is "feed your key supporters"

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

And whenever the AMISOM gig is over, he will find a new place if he is alive. Afganistan, Congo, Central African Republic, If those troops return to Uganda, he will surly be deposed in a Coup, after all, rule no.1 in the Dictator handbook is "feed your key supporters"

same thing Afaworki is doing now,he is trying hard to deplete all soilders that were stationed at the Ethio/Eri Border for 20 years.
If they go back to Asmara they will finish him so he sent them to Ethiopia.

MSB was dethroned by soilders from 1977 war Caydiid,AYussuf, Cumar Jess etc.

US soilders returning from Vietnam in the 70s were a threat to national security alot were killed and families told they were MIA.How would you return soilders with deep mental health issues to the country?

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

Museveni is litteraly a dictator who steals elections every single time. How can he criticize somali politicians ?

But give credit where it is due he has held the country in peace for 30 years.

 

[Calaf]

same thing Afaworki is doing now,he is trying hard to deplete all soilders that were stationed at the Ethio/Eri Border for 20 years.
If they go back to Asmara they will finish him so he sent them to Ethiopia.

Abiy, Akawerki, Museveni, all on borrowed time, its what is Abiy doing, by sending whatever he can find to fight Tigray. Either create a red flag to divert the people away or send troops to fight a war that don't involve them.

 

[Calaf]

But give credit where it is due he has held the country in peace for 30 years.

Peace no longer means anything, Bashar Al Assad and his abo Hafaz Al Assad kept Syria at base for the past 40 years or so, but today Syria is Syria. IOG kept Djibouti peaceful for past 30 years as well, but its still not the heaven on earth, I can go on and on. Somalis, who have been in turmoil the past 30 years or so, may even have a better life then a peaceful Ugandan or Syrian.

Peace with no prosperity is useless

 

[reer]

Peace with no prosperity is useless

shitty homeland >> no homeland. somalis are gypsies.

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

Peace no longer means anything, Bashar Al Assad and his abo Hafaz Al Assad kept Syria at base for the past 40 years or so, but today Syria is Syria. IOG kept Djibouti peaceful for past 30 years as well, but its still not the heaven on earth, I can go on and on. Somalis, who have been in turmoil the past 30 years or so, may even have a better life then a peaceful Ugandan or Syrian.

Peace with no prosperity is useless

You cant compare IOG to Museveni
TBH M7 is better than Uhuru Kenyatta

Dont tell me M7 has hampered business and trade in Uganda.
He is only protecting his seat and in africa there are a lot of hyenas pretending to be saints.

 

[Calaf]

shitty homeland >> no homeland. somalis are gypsies.

We have the prosperity but not the peace, doqonimo of Somalia.

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

We have the prosperity but not the peace, doqonimo of Somalia.

Saxib we have been fighting ever since time in memorial its not new thing even during Axmed gurreh time mx were fighting Geri.

The problem is our plight is being inflamed by external force that want to see Somalis in this vicious cycle.
AS is a puppet proxy tool.

 

[Calaf]

You cant compare IOG to Museveni
TBH M7 is better than Uhuru Kenyatta

Dont tell me M7 has hampered business and trade in Uganda.
He is only protecting his seat and in africa there are a lot of hyenas pretending to be saints.

Uganda is no heaven. Uhuru Kenyatta is a doqon on a personal level, but he sure knows how to lead Kenya. IOG and Museveni are the same. Kenya and Uganda have somewhat the same population, but Kenya GPD per capita is higher then Uganda with a high margin. Whats the difference, Kenya had multiple leaders, Uganda, M7.

His seat don't mean shit, it ain't a reserved seat, but the opposition is a joke as well to be fair, Bobi is a political novice and a doqon in PR.

Look at their neighbour, Rwanda, Rwanda, has both, prosperity and peace, that is why today Rwanda, even after their tribal genocide, is known as the Singapore of Africa. And yet, Kagame was in office for 21 years only. M7 took over Uganda after the coup, its been 36 years, what do we know Uganda for?

 

[Calaf]

Saxib we have been fighting ever since time in memorial its not new thing even during Axmed gurreh time mx were fighting Geri.

The problem is our plight is being inflamed by external force that want to see Somalis in this vicious cycle.
AS is a puppet proxy tool.

AS is available for hire, they ain't fighting for iqedah. You got a business that trying to take your market, call AS. Somebody pissing you off and you got the money to make them disappear, call AS. A politician is getting too big for their boot, or you want their seat, call AS. Want to make the President look bad, call AS. Want to make Somalia look bad to justify whatever cause you want, tell AS and they will get the job done.

Surly its a cursing from Allah SWT, we claim Muslim and yet we have been fighting somebody or something since the late 1600s.

We are the weakest links within ourselves, which allows somebody or something to take use of it.

 

[AMusee]

Its a win win, the reason he has troops in the first place, is to protect himself against any military coup and get the payments. The more troops away, the longer he can stay. Bring them back, the dictator would be on borrowed time

Its counterproductive. The amisom contingent in Somalia work closely with the US/West. Western troops almost always are the ones who stage a coup, backed by you guessed it.

The soldier who will overthrow him likely will come from there.

 

[AMusee]

We can not wait to see them go

 

[AMusee]

They won't do that because they're worried that the soldiers they'll pay for won't exist/ be paid. I remember a few years back when turkey donated police uniforms and the officers started selling them.

Somalia is the most corrupt country in the world sxb.

Thats because it was under one of the most corrupt leadership, Damuljadid.

 

[AMusee]

Amisom is doing nothing besides holding positions. All the ground work is being conducted by the SNA. Even if Amisom leaves I don't think we would end up like Afghanistan. Not that quickly at least

We will not, amisom is again counterproductive. The SNA has grown and can clear them out, of course with some Turkish help.

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

the sna is clan militias on government payroll. they will rarely heavily fight across clan territories to fight shabab. and when there is clan beef @Thegoodshepherd pointed out they will not absorb a rival clan militia. compared to shabab who defeated multiple militias and some surrendered while they absorbed others or parts of them. somaliland are happy to absorb rival militia. same with puntland. they will absorb a rival militia and put them on their payroll. the only fighting force that doesnt resemble a national army is sna.

If HG, the most militarily capable Hawiye subclan, are struggling with Alshabab on flat terrain in Mudug and Galgaduud, what chance do D&M, Abgaal, Xawaadle stand in front of Alshabab?

The minute Amisom leave Alshabab will already be shelling Villa Somalia with mortars. The SNA these people expect to fight after Amisom will all retreat down the highways from Bay, Hiiraan and Lower Shabelle into Mogadishu and try to secure a perimeter for a month or two before they begin to surrender en masse.

Hawiye will go from this:

to this:

faster than you can blink.

 

[NordicSomali]

He should, dont sacrifice your people for another countries inside conflicts.