Museveni Threatens to Withdraw Ugandan Forces from Somalia

Museveni Threatens to Withdraw Ugandan Forces from Somalia​



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President Museveni has warned he might decide to pull out Ugandan troops from Somalia over the political squabbles in the war-torn country.
Museveni said Somalia is beset by infighting between its leaders, which he described as “political AIDS”.

In an interview with France24 TV airing this Thursday, Museveni said he was tired of the endless political wrangles in Mogadishu.

Tension has been rising in Somali among different political and tribal factions in Somalia.
A group of Somali opposition presidential candidates on Wednesday rejected the government’s plan for 2021 elections, which could cause further delay in the much-awaited political exercise.

The opposition Council of Presidential Candidates, or CPS, rejected a new election roadmap proposed by the federal government and regional leaders, saying the process would give five regional leaders too much power in selecting the electoral delegates who will choose 275 members of parliament.

Opposition leader Hassan Sheikh Mohamud said there is need for a clear path towards the process on who will select the delegates and whom they represent since the parliamentary polls is based on the 4.5 power sharing formula.

VOA reported that the former head of state said they don’t want another delay on the polls, which were already delayed twice before, and thus demands a clear timetable.

The 4.5 formula refers to a plan for sharing power among Somalia’s dominant clans.
The indirect election of the parliamentarians is scheduled to commence early next month before the crucial presidential poll on October 10th.

But, analysts say this new stalemate will delay the presidential poll if not urgently resolved.
“The issue of Somalia is where the internal forces do not come up to shoulder their responsibilities,” said Museveni.

“If they did, the situation would have been solved long ago,” he added.
Museveni further said, “We can not have grafted situations. We must have organically developed situations,” said Museveni in reference to the continuous propping up of the government in Somalia.

Infighting
In April 2021, Prime Minister Hussein Roble opposed plans to extend the term of President Mohamed Abdullahi Farmaajo and his government by two years.
The fight over the extension of the elections sparked an armed confrontation in Mogadishu, leaving dozens dead.

Earlier this week, President Farmaajo reversed a decision by Prime Minister Roble to fire the head of Intelligence and Security Agency (NISA), Fahad Yassin Haji Dahir over the death of a female intelligence officer.

In a stinging rebuke, Farmaajo said Roble’s decision, was “illegal and unconstitutional.”
Museveni today said “The body must be able to defend itself. If the body cannot defend itself, that means you are suffering from political AIDS – like when the defence system of the body cannot defend itself.”

Rise of Taliban
However, there has been fears over the ability of Somali troops to provide security when the Ugandan-led AMISOM forces exit the country.

In 2019, Uganda’s Deputy Ambassador to Somalia, Rtd Major General Nathan Mugisha told ChimpReports that Somalia’s problems could be resolved politically.

“The problem of Somalia is not security,” said Mugisha, “insecurity is a consequence of the failed political line of operation.”


He said the central government and federal states needed to resolve their political differences amicably to pave way for the pacification of the war-torn country.

“If that is not resolved, even if you brought 100,000 AMISOM troops, they will not solve this problem. This problem is solvable provided we get the political line of operation right,” said Mugisha.

The rise of the Taliban to take power from the better-equipped and highly trained government forces in Afghanistan sent shockwaves in Somalia.

Observers say the Al Shabaab, who control the better parts of the countryside remain a huge security challenge and could emulate the Taliban against the politically weak government in Mogadishu if AMISOM leaves.

Asked if he was really determined to pull out troops if the political wrangling continues, Museveni responded: “if the internal forces don’t come up.”

He added: “I don’t believe in external military presence. I don’t. But it must happen, it must happen for a very limited time.”

“Actually we wanted to withdraw. But some prevailed on us. Are have to discuss with African Union. But for us we believe people defend themselves.”

The wrangling has delayed not only delayed elections but also undermined efforts to provide social services across the country.

Background
Following a coup d’état led by Major General Mohamed Siad Barre in 1969, the Somali constitution and its institutions were suspended until 1979 when a new constitution was drafted and approved via referendum.

The Constitution of 1979 established a presidential system of government. However, power remained concentrated in Barre’s military regime—amidst growing clan-based internal conflict— until an internal Somali rebellion overthrew the regime in 1991.

Somalia’s disintegration and the ensuing internal conflicts attracted significant regional and international efforts to end the war, restore peace and rebuild the state.
A new parliament and government has been installed since 2017 with the leadership promising to finalize the process before the 2020 elections.
The polls were postponed due to political disagreements.

Political solution
Mugisha, who commanded the fiercest battles in Somalia between 2009 – 2011, said Somalia will continue to walk a tight rope as long as the Federal government and regional states fight for power and resources.

He said more attention needs to be focused on resolving political contestations, building solid institutions and infrastructure to deliver social services to the people.
“We have the troops here. The militias are about 20,000. But they are not integrated. They are demoralised. They are not vetted. They are not commanded properly,” said Mugisha.

“If the federal government decides to solve the political line; if the international community helps the federal government to get political operational line correct, Somalia will be okay.”
 
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bidenkulaha

GalYare
Why is the Uganda’s Deputy Ambassador to Somalia making more sense than any politician in Xamar.. :gaasdrink:
The dude is a 30+ year dictator telling us we have Political AIDS 😂, please some xishood.

I hazard a guess that he’s surprised about how much push back Farmaajo is receiving over another term...
 

Ahmed Ato

Self-interest
we welcome his decision to withdraw his forces from Somalia. EU and others should just give the money they were giving to AMISOM to Somali forces fighting against Alshabab.
 

Ahmed Ato

Self-interest
You don't really mean that :trumpsmirk: , do you think that this government, that is more motivated fighting themself instead of fighting Al-shabab, would stand?
so true :wow:
we're going to see the next government. we hope they focus fighting against Alshabab more.
 

Calaf

Veni Vidi Vici
2022 CHESS CHAMP
GENERALISSIMO
VIP
Its a win win, the reason he has troops in the first place, is to protect himself against any military coup and get the payments. The more troops away, the longer he can stay. Bring them back, the dictator would be on borrowed time :kanyeshrug:
 

Thugnificent

Father, lover, scholar, landheer
we welcome his decision to withdraw his forces from Somalia. EU and others should just give the money they were giving to AMISOM to Somali forces fighting against Alshabab.
They won't do that because they're worried that the soldiers they'll pay for won't exist/ be paid. I remember a few years back when turkey donated police uniforms and the officers started selling them.

Somalia is the most corrupt country in the world sxb.
 

mr steal your naag

banu hashim and shiettt
VIP
They won't do that because they're worried that the soldiers they'll pay for won't exist/ be paid. I remember a few years back when turkey donated police uniforms and the officers started selling them.

Somalia is the most corrupt country in the world sxb.
Exactly he would never pull them out
 

TekNiKo

“I am an empathic and emotionally-aware person.
VIP
amisom dont ban khat. somalis would rather be under amisom than risk shabab resurgence.
Remember when I told yall Somalia will be deserted by the West like Afghanistan if they dont fix up? They already made a deal with Taliban what makes you think they wont negotiate with AS. The time of western propoing up failed governments is soon expiring and we better get our shit together or we will be overrun.
 

reer

VIP
Remember when I told yall Somalia will be deserted by the West like Afghanistan if they dont fix up? They already made a deal with Taliban what makes you think they wont negotiate with AS. The time of western propoing up failed governments is soon expiring and we better get our shit together or we will be overrun.
problem is i doubt shabab will negotiate without guarantee date of amisom exit. the government is amisom propped so if amisom leave they can overrun most of konfuria so why would they want to negotiate with the gov? trump negotiated with taliban wuu ka booday dowladda. scary.
 
problem is i doubt shabab will negotiate without guarantee date of amisom exit. the government is amisom propped so if amisom leave they can overrun most of konfuria so why would they want to negotiate with the gov?

As long as AS is affiliated with al qaeda the americans will never negotiate with them - maybe if they disavow them, like the Taliban did.

But it's funny how the americans are willing to accept and negotiate with the Taliban and their elite terrorist and intelligence part the Haqqani terrorists, that is literally like Al-Shabab and on their terrorist list.

Bit they are okay with as long as their name is not Al qaeda.
 

reer

VIP
As long as AS is affiliated with al qaeda the americans will never negotiate with them - maybe if they disavow them, like the Taliban did.

But it's funny how the americans are willing to accept and negotiate with the Taliban and their elite terrorist and intelligence part the Haqqani terrorists, that is literally like Al-Shabab and on their terrorist list.

Bit they are okay with as long as their name is not Al qaeda.
fair point. a treaty of non aggression.
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Som

VIP
You don't really mean that :trumpsmirk: , do you think that this government, that is more motivated fighting themself instead of fighting Al-shabab, would stand?
Amisom is doing nothing besides holding positions. All the ground work is being conducted by the SNA. Even if Amisom leaves I don't think we would end up like Afghanistan. Not that quickly at least
 

Som

VIP
As long as AS is affiliated with al qaeda the americans will never negotiate with them - maybe if they disavow them, like the Taliban did.

But it's funny how the americans are willing to accept and negotiate with the Taliban and their elite terrorist and intelligence part the Haqqani terrorists, that is literally like Al-Shabab and on their terrorist list.

Bit they are okay with as long as their name is not Al qaeda.
I think americans changed strategy. They arr ready to leave the taliban alone as long as they don't attack US citizens or US interests in the world
 
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