BREAKING NEWS Musa gives Ethiopia a port and a military base on the Gulf of Aden. It's over

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Itsnotthateasy said:
This is why Somaliland (including SSc) is a different country. Southern Somalias fought wars against Ethiopia. Somalis fought in the Italian-Ethiopia wars in the 1930s, Somalilanders did not. Somaliland only invaded them as part of Somalia in 1970s which was an offensive war. Southern Somalis were again invaded by Ethiopia (invited) in 2006, Somalilanders were not. Somalilanders don't have the same experiences as Somalis, which you would expect given they are different countries.
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RiceMuncher

RiceMuncher

It's 45 mins long bro cba to translate the whole thing @X29 but basically the xabashi wanted Assab in Eritrea but were deterred of war with the Eritreans. The deal was written in 3 days and not a sentence was added by a somali. They don't want just the coast but to also control from their border to the coast. They asked HSM to make a deal and he replied to go through the normal channel for business between states which angered their leader.

The dr also says the only reason they're doing this is bc they percieve a united stable Somalia as a threat and it's not the first time they sabotage us.
 
Three Moons

Three Moons

Give Dhul-Suwayqatayn not an inch of the Sea!
Itsnotthateasy said:
This is why Somaliland (including SSc) is a different country. Southern Somalias fought wars against Ethiopia. Somalis fought in the Italian-Ethiopia wars in the 1930s, Somalilanders did not. Somaliland only invaded them as part of Somalia in 1970s which was an offensive war. Southern Somalis were again invaded by Ethiopia (invited) in 2006, Somalilanders were not. Somalilanders don't have the same experiences as Somalis, which you would expect given they are different countries.
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The Dervish included people from across Somaliland who fought the Ethiopians. The SYL movement included people from across Somaliland that thwarted Haile Selassie’s designs. Some of the most fanatic Pan-Somalists in history came from modern Somaliland. The Blue Flag was first hoisted in Hargeisa, the former national anthem “Soomaaliyeey toosoo” was created in Sheikh. Two of the most important airbases and naval bases for the Somali Air Force and Somali Navy were in modern Somaliland. The 1964 War included people from across Somaliland. The 1977 War included people from across Somaliland. The WLSF movement included people from across Somaliland. The 1982 War included people from across Somaliland. Ethiopia attacked Berbera, they attacked Hargeisa, they attacked Borama. All of their historic war plans after 64’ were aimed at invading modern Somaliland, be it Operation Lightening, Operation Wall, or Operation Bunker, their original target was always the North.

The North’s experience is exactly the same as the rest of Somalia.
 
RiceMuncher

RiceMuncher

Three Moons said:
The Dervish included people from across Somaliland who fought the Ethiopians. The SYL movement included people from across Somaliland that thwarted Haile Selassie’s designs. Some of the most fanatic Pan-Somalists in history came from modern Somaliland. The Blue Flag was first hoisted in Hargeisa. Two of the most important airbases and naval bases for the Somali Air Force and Somali Navy were in modern Somaliland. The 1964 War included people from across Somaliland. The 1977 War included people from across Somaliland. The WLSF movement included people from across Somaliland. The 1982 War included people from across Somaliland. Ethiopia attacked Berbera, they attacked Hargeisa, they attacked Borama. All of their historic war plans after 64’ were aimed at invading modern Somaliland, be it Operation Lightening, Operation Wall, or Operation Bunker, original their target was always the North.

The North’s experience is exactly the same as the rest of Somalia.
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Not only that I personally know someone from Burco who fought in the 2006 invasion. Ask anyone from Burco how many left for xamar at the time and you'll be amazed.
 
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Itsnotthateasy

Three Moons said:
The Dervish included people from across Somaliland who fought the Ethiopians. The SYL movement included people from across Somaliland that thwarted Haile Selassie’s designs. Some of the most fanatic Pan-Somalists in history came from modern Somaliland. The Blue Flag was first hoisted in Hargeisa, the former national anthem “Soomaaliyeey toosoo” was created in Sheikh. Two of the most important airbases and naval bases for the Somali Air Force and Somali Navy were in modern Somaliland. The 1964 War included people from across Somaliland. The 1977 War included people from across Somaliland. The WLSF movement included people from across Somaliland. The 1982 War included people from across Somaliland. Ethiopia attacked Berbera, they attacked Hargeisa, they attacked Borama. All of their historic war plans after 64’ were aimed at invading modern Somaliland, be it Operation Lightening, Operation Wall, or Operation Bunker, their original target was always the North.

The North’s experience is exactly the same as the rest of Somalia.
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Pan-Somali projects like the Dervishes and the Somali Republic were always short lived (20-30 years) and ended in corruption and infamy.

Somalilanders were very excited to join the union with Somalia but quickly realized their mistake and have been trying to reverse the decision ever since. There was a coup involving junior officers in 1961 including ones from Boroma and Las Anod.

Somaliland officers were part of Western Somali Liberation Front until it was used to suppress Somaliland population. Somaliland Officers from WSLF formed the core of the SNM.

Again the 1982 border war was aimed at the South to remove Barre from power and by this stage the SNM had formed with the same objective.

Hargeisa might have faced some attacks as part of the Ogaden war but they were eclipsed by the destruction of 1988-1989 that the Somali governement inflicted.

Pan Somali projects are anomaly in Somali history and always end badly. Right now it only exists in a legal form. Maybe another will come along in the future but we will see.
 
Pastoralist

Pastoralist

Ethiopia is ranked 49 in global military which is quite high. They have the ability to mobilize millions of troops. I’m not sure what the president is doing by not preparing for this.
 
FBIsomalia

FBIsomalia

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Itsnotthateasy said:
This is why Somaliland (including SSc) is a different country. Southern Somalias fought wars against Ethiopia. Somalis fought in the Italian-Ethiopia wars in the 1930s, Somalilanders did not. Somaliland only invaded them as part of Somalia in 1970s which was an offensive war. Southern Somalis were again invaded by Ethiopia (invited) in 2006, Somalilanders were not. Somalilanders don't have the same experiences as Somalis, which you would expect given they are different countries.
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SSC are not part of Isaaq, you guys lose war. You will always part of Somalia.
 
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