MP Mukhtar Mohamed "Anyone outside of the republic of Somalia I.e DDS and NFD are foreigners and not Somalis.'' - Thoughts?

[Bazed]

Is it really wrong to say they have to apply for citizenship and won't be able to run for government positions within Somalia?

I think that is fair. In fact I think all politicians in Somalia should only have somali citizenship. No secondary loyalty. Also all future somali presidents should be born or raised within the nation. We want people who have a actually stake within the nation and a person is less likely to be shady when they're stuck in their position.

 

[Ximan iyo Xadeed]

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Somalia is a Somali country therefore any Somali is by default a citizen of Somalia with or without the passport.


Somalia needs to attract the growing educated class of Kenya , if it was up to me i'd offer them field positions in the government and hire them to teach in the SNU

As for Western Somali graduates a sort of volunteer program for those who are interested in sharing expertize within crucial fields like STEM.

 

[wonyluvr]

stupid statement

 

[mohamedismail]

So you claim borders drawn by stupid Europeans are legitimate?

Daroods are majority of NFD and Galbeed

In the meantime it's legitimate untill those people liberate themselves.

 

[mohamedismail]

Somalia is a Somali country therefore any Somali is by default a citizen of Somalia with or without the passport.


Somalia needs to attract the growing educated class of Kenya , if it was up to me i'd offer them field positions in the government and hire them to teach in the SNU

As for Western Somali graduates a sort of volunteer program for those who are interested in sharing expertize within crucial fields like STEM.

So you think Kenyan Somalis should have precidence over Somalis in the number 7 region. what about Somalis in Somalia will they be jobless.

 

[Keep it a boqol]

So you think Kenyan Somalis should have precidence over Somalis in the number 7 region. what about Somalis in Somalia will they be jobless.

gone are the days of 4.5. We need a educated class to run somalia. No more affirmative action, we want skills and merit

We should make it that you have to give up your foreign citizenship if you want to be part of somali poltics then so we can assure politicians are working strictly for somali interests if people still feel uncomfortable of somalis born outside of somalia participating in the country

 

[Noble]

The MP is right afterall HSM was saying at the AU "we need to respect Colonial borders" when it comes to Ethiopian interference you have to be consistent.

 

[Angelina]

LOL @ modern borders. Somalia, Somaliland, Djibouti and Ogadan part of Ethiopia are nothing but 20th century nations orchestrated by European men.

That politician is a joke. What is real is the Somali identity that has been around for centuries.

 

[Askari]

Idk about Nfd but in DDS has every clan except warsangali

 

[Ximan iyo Xadeed]

Idk about Nfd but in DDS has every clan except warsangali

NFD is 4 to 5 clans less clans than DDS

But there are alot of sujuis aka Somalis from colonial times that immigrated to Isiolo/central Kenya/Nairobi

Dhulbahante, Isaaq, Warsangeli etc.

 

[Al hashimi]

What do you guys expect, he is Taghut

 

[El Nino]

There won’t be hard borders in Somalia, this man is just yapping.

 

[LiveFrom]

these are the people running the government? claiming occupied territory is ajinabi the same territory their fathers defended and lost their lives

Yes this is hsm policy, theres a clip of him saying it point blank and one of the changes to the constitution (somalis born outside 7 fms will be non-somali) is a continuation of that

Hsm point blank stating his stance:
Relevant post abt the constitution: post in thread 'The proposed Amendments to the Election, Electoral System and political parties.' https://www.somalispot.com/threads/...tem-and-political-parties.162204/post-3935507

I think its in pursuit of cooperating with neighboring nations since theyd always regard somalia as a security concern if even a sniff of somaliweyn was government policy. Its why som joined the eac

Guy is just not a somaliweynist unfortunately

 

[Garsoore]

Yes this is hsm policy, theres a clip of him saying it point blank and one of the changes to the constitution (somalis born outside 7 fms will be non-somali) is a continuation of that

Hsm point blank stating his stance:
Relevant post abt the constitution: post in thread 'The proposed Amendments to the Election, Electoral System and political parties.' https://www.somalispot.com/threads/...tem-and-political-parties.162204/post-3935507

I think its in pursuit of cooperating with neighboring nations since theyd always regard somalia as a security concern if even a sniff of somaliweyn was government policy. Its why som joined the eac

Guy is just not a somaliweynist unfortunately

Qabilist. He doesn't want the giant darood population in these regions füčking up his hawiye political stake in the country. Nigga said not everyone that looks like us and speaks Somali in our neighboring countries is somali. What tf are they supposed to be? Amhara and bantus?

 

[Keep it a boqol]

Qabilist. He doesn't want the giant darood population in these regions füčking up his hawiye political stake in the country. Nigga said not everyone that looks like us and speaks Somali in our neighboring countries is somali. What tf are they supposed to be? Amhara and bantus?

there’s big hawiye populations in deep in dds as well. idk why they don’t want them incorporated as well

 

[GaradShabeel]

The MP is right afterall HSM was saying at the AU "we need to respect Colonial borders" when it comes to Ethiopian interference you have to be consistent.

What does giving citizenship to people with shared ethnicity, got to do with not respecting borders?

Plenty of countries have similar policy, without being accused of infringing upon other countries sovereign territories such as Germany and Greece.

It seems like these rhetorics coming from some politicians are driven by political interests. They have right to their own political views, but their intentions needs to be clear rather than hiding behind unfounded pretext.

 

[Magan Joseph]

What the hell! I muttered the biggest agah in my life! this grown man can’t even speak proper Somali Pakistani somalilanders speak better Somali compared to this infest subxanAllah how is this even possible that we have people who struggle to speak Somali determining who’s eligible for Somali citizenship and who’s not I spat on my iPhone walahi is he even eligible for Somali citizenship himself? Ileen the rumours aren’t just rumours ethiopians pay Somali politicians to keep the Ogaden name away from Somalia as possible nacala laangaabka tahay kuyaal may you and your ancestors of the past present and the future rot in jahanamo.

 

[Angelina]

It’s the month of Ramadan so I don’t want to insult. But uffffff is what I have to say. A Somali isn’t an ajnabi, especially reer Ogaden whom many of our fathers and grandparents were roped into the 1977 war. Our people fought to try and free Ogadenia even though it was a disastrous campaign, but now you wants say they’re ‘ajnabi’.

 

[Ozark]

These traitors should be shot.

 

[Sup]

From my understanding the government position is until they are nationalised citizens (they would have to go through the application process), they are not considered Somali nationals, but they are automatically granted citizenship once they apply. Am I understanding this correctly ??

if that’s the case, I don’t understand the issue. Somali citizens must be given priority in all matters first !!