More somali guys need to hit the gym
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@Idilinaa everything your saying makes sense but some niggas don't care because they truly believe somalis can't compete with Madows.
That Somali sprinter Mustafa Mohammed is the only professional example we currently got of a Somali man that has tried to compete in sprints. He's one of the only few somalis raised in the west that actually got the opportunity to train in an explosive way.
i knew another irl. My cousin. He played American football for like 2-3 seasons in high school as a defensive back. I literally witnessed this dude become explosive and fast during this time period. American football training entirely consists of strength training, football,and speed drills. Bro became strong AF and fast AF. I literally witnessed this nigga dunking at 5'9. Bro made me want to play football and I literally begged my parents to let me compete for years but they always said no.
I never believed Somali genetics withheld us from accomplishing certain things. Mainly because I know many Somali man that never had the chance to compete in anything. Our parents held us back because they gave no fucks.
I literally know o multiple 6'4+ Somali man that never got the chance to compete in any major sports. We could have had Farahs playing in the NFL or NBA by now but sadly most of them got screwed over by their parents.
Somali nomadic diet is actually very bad on the long term, lacks fibers, vitamin c/e/k and carbohydrates, the nomadic diet fucked my guts up i hated it, i really dont understand how nomads get used to this dietYou often see Somalis with certain physical traits frailty, thinness, obesity or low muscle mass because many are not in optimal health. Nutrient deficiencies are surprisingly common, especially in iron, vitamin A, and vitamin D. These deficiencies largely stem from diet and lifestyle rather than genetics.
For example, overconsumption of milk (which inhibits iron absorption) without enough red meat can lead to iron deficiency. Low vitamin D is often due to limited sun exposure and indoor urban living, while vitamin A is typically lacking in diets with few vegetables or animal fats.
Looking through historical accounts, Somali fishermen were consistently described as robust, muscular, and energetic followed by agro-pastoralists. At the bottom were urban dwellers, often viewed as frail or undernourished or overweight at times. These town populations consumed high amounts of oil, rice, and milk, with little meat and minimal physical activity, sound familiar?
This traditional reer magaalo (urban dweller) lifestyle has more or less continued today. Coffee has been replaced with khat, and physical activity has dropped even more. What’s important here is that many of the physical traits Somalis associate with "ethnic appearance" like being slim, frailty or obesity may actually be symptoms of chronic undernutrition or overconsumption of empty calories linked to lifestyle rather than anything inherent or genetic.
What really drives this point home is how dramatically people’s appearance changes when they shift to a higher-protein diet and engage in physical activity. Look at the transformation of that Somali guy who trained to become a sprinter or past examples like the African long jump champion of Somali background. These athletes prove Somalis can excel in explosive, strength-based sports not just endurance if the right conditions are in place.
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And contrary to popular belief, there’s no strong genetic evidence that East Africans are “naturally built” for endurance. Consider this peer-reviewed study:
Genotypes and distance running : clues from Africa - PubMed
A look at the medal podium in almost any international sporting competition reveals that some athletes and certain countries enjoy regular success in particular events. While environmental influences such as training and diet are important, it is likely that there is also some genetic component...pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
And a 2024 meta-analysis summed it up even more clearly:
Why the dominance of East Africans in distance running? A narrative review
Introduction Runners from East Africa including Kenya, Ethiopia and Uganda have dominated middle- and long-distance running events, for almost six decades. This narrative review examines and updates current understanding of the factors explaining the dominance of East Africans in distance...www.degruyterbrill.com
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The real "advantage" is high-altitude training (2,000–3,000 m) that boosts oxygen efficiency, plus early aerobic training, strong community support, and a culture of athletic excellence.
Also worth noting: Somali runners Ayanleh Souleiman and Abdi Bile were middle-distance champions, not long-distance runners. Mo Farah, a long-distance legend, attributes much of his success to training in high-altitude Kenya, learning from the best Kenyan athletes in Iten home to many world-class runners.
Bottom line is this, instead of leaning on vague ideas of genetics, Somalis should focus on improving their nutrition, lifestyle, and access to athletic development. The potential is there, it just needs to be unlocked.
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Makes a person look mad as well . Its unhealthy and lacks essential vitamins. Best thing is a balanced diet with everything inside but not too much
Maybe your body isn't used to it or you weren't eating right. You realize nomads also had access to grains, legumes, and some fruits. Yes they had a lot of meat and milk, but that wasn't just it.
No they didnt, good luck farming while being a nomad, and dont pull out some minor cases claiming it was the norm for every nomad
Idilinaa
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Somali pastoralists/herders didn’t just live on milk and meat. They also ate rice, sorghum, and other grains they’d trade butter, milk, hides, spices , gums or livestock with coastal or farming communities for those things. They also had fruits like dates and berries, especially during the rainy seasons.
That said, fiber isn’t all it’s hyped up to be. In some cases, too much fiber actually makes digestion worse and can cause constipation, not help it. It really depends on your gut.
It’s more likely your gut issues came from cow milk, which has a lot of lactose. A lot of people are lactose intolerant to some degree, especially with cow milk , that could’ve been what messed with your stomach, not necessarily the lack of fiber.
I’ll keep it short since I don’t have much time to go back and forth on this.
Mo Farah actually isn’t that fast his real strength is in pacing and endurance, and he worked hard on that. I remember watching his documentary a while ago and he credits his high school coach for spotting his potential and really guiding him into distance running. If I’m remembering right, the coach even said he took an interest partly because Mo was East African.
As for the Dutch-Somali sprinter, he was being steered toward long distance like Mo but decided to try sprinting just to see how he’d do. He started young and ended up doing really well early on. As an under-17 he ran 11.36 in the 100m and 22.47 in the 200m , so the raw talent was there from early.
Both had something at a young age, but what really took them to the top was focused training, not just natural ability.
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Working out is difficult I have a hard time feeling like I can target the muscle due to form. Not sure how to rectify this
Riftvalley
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I was talking about averages. Most Somalis have
The reason we are going around in circles is because you’re too stubborn to address any of my points. Instead, you address arguments I have never made and start answering yourself.
Mo Farah is not that fast Kulaha. The man rans 11:98 seconds in the 100 metres. He runs sub 13 second 100 metres during a long endurance race.; He runs 60 second laps in a long endurance race. This is fast, but not as fast sprinters. You obviously understand very little about sports and have probably never participated at any decent level.
Again, I never said individuals Somalis can not run a good 100 metres or become more explosive. All I have said along is that Somalis, and like many other ethnicities btw including whites who spend millions on athletics, will have very little chance of dominating the 100 metres like madows. We have a better a chance at middle distance and long distance. There is a genetic and skeletal element to this.
Riftvalley
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Then simply explain why white men in places like in England, France and USA where there is an athletic culture are unable to dominate the 100 metres? Why has a white man not won the hundreds metres for such a long time? Why are Nigerians over represented in the UK sprint teams? Why do madow kids win almost every high school 100 metre race in London, a multi cultural city? Surely madows do not have better nutrition than every other community? anyone who has played sports can tell you Somalis on average don’t have insane natural speed like madows. And this goes the other way, an untrained Somali teen can easily beat a west African at the 1500m. Anyone who denies Somalis are not more suited to long distance running than the 100 metres is just being delusional.
Riftvalley
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Stop following me around with dumb one liners. Bastard child.
Hoyada usheg goof. You’re writing essays because you lost a race to a Jamaican and got bodied in soccer by a Nigerian you physically weak low T fcker
Idilinaa
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I actually addressed every point ,you're just being stubborn now.
When I said Mo Farah isn’t that fast, I meant in comparison to other elite long-distance runners not sprinters. Someone like Haile Gebrselassie was actually faster in terms of times and held more world records, while Mo Farah has more titles. So even within distance running, Farah’s strength was more in strategy and pacing than raw speed.
You also said that Somali sprinter wasn’t fast as a youth but he was. He didn’t come from money or spend millions on training either, he just used what he had. There could be way more like him if more Somalis chose that path instead of boxing themselves in with self-limiting beliefs or stereotypes.
For me, this goes beyond just athletics. It’s about not letting ourselves or others think there’s only one way to be Somali. What doesn’t apply to you might apply to someone else. We have to leave space for that
Riftvalley
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No you have not but let’s leave it that.
This is why I said you don’t understand athletics or sports in general. Mo Farah was famous for his insane speed over the last 200 metres and sometimes he would kick before the last two years. He always had this, but what helped was improving his strategy and endurance plus strength.
I never said that. I said that he must have been fast as a kid. You were insinuating he did some explosive work and speed and became fast over night. I wrote that there is a limit to what someone can do add to their natural speed which they are born with. You are kind of proving my point: on average there are thousands of madow kids with insanely natural speed of a short distance. There are not many Somali kids with that kind of speed. This Dutch guy is the exception to the rule. Can other Somalis became 100 sprint runners? Yes. The science and history says that madows are more likely to dominate the 100 metres as well as hair of explosive sports. No one has brought anything or evidence refuting that point.
Most Somalis will never consider his path because they’re not the fastest kids in their high school our county. Madows are more likely to beat them. It is not about stereotypes or limiting beliefs. If a Somali kid is insanely fast, of course I would encourage to pursue their dream. My point is that there are not that many extremely fast Somali kids to begin with compared to madows.
Sorry, this is a load nonsense. Who said there is only one way to be Somali? All I have said is that scientifically Somalis are suited to middle distance and long distance running comped to madows from West Africa regions. This is my opinion. I don’t need silly lectures about leaving space and some kumbaya crap. This is not solely about Somalis. Europeans who spend millions and billions and athletics can never compete with madows in the 100m.
Riftvalley
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You’re an idiotic baboon with limited cognitive ability. I won’t even engage with you. I will just put you on ignore. If you don’t like what I wrote, just don’t read it or engage with me. Don’t waste your energy stalking me with silly one-liners.
I'm honestly bothered we got a deal with weak links like this. These niggas always show up in conversations about sports. @Idilinaa start ignoring rift valley he's a pussy.
The thought of a Somali man actually competing against a madow person bothers these niggas. Like bro who tf raised these niggas
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Riftvalley
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You’re a ghetto trashl baboon like some of these other users who are sensitive little girlies incapable of absorbing any opinions other than those in their echo chamber.
I'm honestly bothered we got a deal with weak links like this. These niggas always show up in conversations about sports. @Idilinaa start ignoring rift valley he's a pussy.
The thought of a Somali man actually competing against a madow person bothers these niggas. Like bro who tf raised these niggas
Most people here will read this thread and see that my points are logical from my standpoint even if they disagree with me.
You have nothing of value to add because you’re a loser and an intellectual coward. All you can do is come up anecdotal waffle like “yo man, my cousin should have been in the nfl if the cops didn’t raid his weed, yo homes”. You’re a grown man asking the notorious spammer aka AI somalinimo xalimo to ignore me simply because I disagree with her opinion. The woman simply has no clue about sports or endurance science. Then you endorse some other stalker loser who has no other purpose other than trolling and insulting mothers.
even the way you address each other like ghetto madow thugs: “yo he’s a pussy, nigga”, just shows your mind is probably fried from years of cannabis abuse and probably two days away from a drug induced psychosis.
You guys can’t even answer a simple question: why are white people unable to beat west arfricans in the 100 metres race f speee can be improved by nutrition? How comes there barely any other ethnicities apart from west African descendants barely go under 10 seconds for the 100ms. Surely west African descent people can’t have superior nutrition to the entire world?
if you are going to ignore, just ignore me like the coward you are. Don’t be a coward and after quoting stalkers and team tagging with ai xalimo bots.
Idilinaa
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Mo Farah is definitely fast, but his strength is more in pacing and strategy. He wasn’t winning races by blasting out of the blocks , it was that last 200m kick and stamina that won him medals.
The Dutch-Somali sprinter you’re talking about isn’t some miracle either just like Mo, he was Reer UK, grew up in London, and trained in a system. You say he’s an exception, but so is Mo Farah if we’re going by numbers , name me another Reer UK Somali distance champ. There isn’t one. So why is Mo accepted as the standard and the other as an anomaly?
That’s kind of my whole point , the numbers reflect access, not raw potential. I fully believe more Somalis could do well in both sprint and endurance if the support, training, and nutrition was there. Talent isn’t enough once you get to elite levels , you need infrastructure, belief, and encouragement.
And we’re not Europeans , we don’t always have the luxury to chase athletics. My own cousin was top-tier in volleyball from middle school all the way to high school. She got scouted by colleges, but her family pushed her toward medicine. She’s now a dentist , not because she lacked talent, but because sports wasn’t considered a serious path.
So this isn’t kumbaya , it’s just a broader view of what’s really limiting people.
Riftvalley
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Idinlaa, why don’t you actually bother reading posts before responding.
I already explained how Somali youngsters excel in long distance races at the youth stage. There are also many Somali distance runners who run for the USA, Canada, Belgium, etc. Name me another Somali sprinter apart from this Dutch guy who I don’t believe is even the national champion or has raced at the world stage.
I myself was headhunted to do long distance running for my local county. I was one of the best long middle distance runners in my school age group at the age of 12 with no training. A few my friends took it more seriously and they even got offers to run for England youth. This is why I said there could have been at least 5 more Mo farahs if so many Somalis long distance prospects did not fall off due to lack of parental support or finances. I know a few Somalis who had similar to ability to Mo in their teens.
I am writing as someone who went to many races across the UK and saw both long distance and sprints. I never one saw Somali win a sprint race against west African descent at a good level yet I saw many Somali youths winning or competing against established white kids from running schools in the distance races. Some of those Somali kids did not even have proper running spikes.
Meanwhile, every other sprint race was dominated by people of West African descent. This is replicated on the world level where this group is vastly over represented in people who have gone under 10s for a 100 metres; in 100 and 200 metre gold medals; and, in many other metrics related to explosive sports.
I don’t believe this is a coincidence or that you can attribute this to nutrition or merely training. If this is the case, the Russians, French and Chinese athletes would not be losing to Nigerians in the sprint races. There is a genetic element involved here. People want to deny this due to political correctness or to engage in the usual Somali cliquey pseudo nationalism.
There are probably hundred of potential Mo Farahs in Somalia. If there was heavy investment Somalia could produce many a successful middle distance and long distance runners. On the other hand, investing heavily in producing 100 metres Olympic gold medalists would not yield the same results because, simply put, Somalis are not that on average as rapid as west African groups over short distances.
BTW all of these guys are national marathon champions for western nations. Some have even won international marathon champions. There is a few missing from here. We already over represented in producing world class international long distance in the western nations. We have produced more national long distance champions for western nations than all West African and Asians nations combined, while they outperform us in producing good sprinters and heavy weight boxers. No one is saying this is 100 percent due to genetics, but it deffo plays a major apart. People saying it doesn’t are either ignorant, politically correct or blindly rushing to say “muh Somalis can excel at everything as long as you try”.
I already explained how Somali youngsters excel in long distance races at the youth stage. There are also many Somali distance runners who run for the USA, Canada, Belgium, etc. Name me another Somali sprinter apart from this Dutch guy who I don’t believe is even the national champion or has raced at the world stage.
I myself was headhunted to do long distance running for my local county. I was one of the best long middle distance runners in my school age group at the age of 12 with no training. A few my friends took it more seriously and they even got offers to run for England youth. This is why I said there could have been at least 5 more Mo farahs if so many Somalis long distance prospects did not fall off due to lack of parental support or finances. I know a few Somalis who had similar to ability to Mo in their teens.
I am writing as someone who went to many races across the UK and saw both long distance and sprints. I never one saw Somali win a sprint race against west African descent at a good level yet I saw many Somali youths winning or competing against established white kids from running schools in the distance races. Some of those Somali kids did not even have proper running spikes.
Meanwhile, every other sprint race was dominated by people of West African descent. This is replicated on the world level where this group is vastly over represented in people who have gone under 10s for a 100 metres; in 100 and 200 metre gold medals; and, in many other metrics related to explosive sports.
I don’t believe this is a coincidence or that you can attribute this to nutrition or merely training. If this is the case, the Russians, French and Chinese athletes would not be losing to Nigerians in the sprint races. There is a genetic element involved here. People want to deny this due to political correctness or to engage in the usual Somali cliquey pseudo nationalism.
There are probably hundred of potential Mo Farahs in Somalia. If there was heavy investment Somalia could produce many a successful middle distance and long distance runners. On the other hand, investing heavily in producing 100 metres Olympic gold medalists would not yield the same results because, simply put, Somalis are not that on average as rapid as west African groups over short distances.
BTW all of these guys are national marathon champions for western nations. Some have even won international marathon champions. There is a few missing from here. We already over represented in producing world class international long distance in the western nations. We have produced more national long distance champions for western nations than all West African and Asians nations combined, while they outperform us in producing good sprinters and heavy weight boxers. No one is saying this is 100 percent due to genetics, but it deffo plays a major apart. People saying it doesn’t are either ignorant, politically correct or blindly rushing to say “muh Somalis can excel at everything as long as you try”.
It never been a better time to be a man. Data show that today men are broke, fatter and poor then ever before. Being a decent man today is the gold standard. Especially with all these women hating men. Hit the gym, get a decent job and speak like a normal person. That the new standard lol
I remember that having a degree and a entry level job will get so so many prospects in the 2010s for somali guys in are community. it seem like it has become more international. The middle part of the distribution of decent guys is dropping. It easier than ever. Don't get why you guys are complaining
I remember that having a degree and a entry level job will get so so many prospects in the 2010s for somali guys in are community. it seem like it has become more international. The middle part of the distribution of decent guys is dropping. It easier than ever. Don't get why you guys are complaining
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