Mooyaale Somalis breaking the Oromo siege

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Just say Daarood bro :ftw9nwa::ftw9nwa:, I know they didn't care when Dire Dhabe was attacked and said it was a "dir problem" and "It's Dir's fault for being buddy-buddy with Oromos" lool.
Aren't they right though? Dir did let the "refugees" in. Only thing I admire about Ogaden is they don't let Oromos go near them.
 
Im surprised that Western Somalia isnt the most unified part of the homeland. It has to be more than just clan pride, dont Somalis see whats at stake

Because one group has issues with every other group that lives there. And Somalis do not see what at's stake at all, we have been blessed to own a lot of land in africa for a small ethnic group whilst other ethnicities with a larger population than us are confined to a tiny space. Nigeria has more than 50+ ethnic groups, all who have to share that small space for themselves. Somalis have been blessed with land but not unity, and imo the civil war destroyed any chance of unity being formed again. When I say unity, I'm not talking about the outward appearance of Unity that somalis are used to, for example when a Non-Somali groups attacks Somalis and then we all rise up. But a Unity that actually will not disappear after turmoil ceases to exist.
 

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Just say Daarood bro :ftw9nwa::ftw9nwa:, I know they didn't care when Dire Dhabe was attacked and said it was a "dir problem" and "It's Dir's fault for being buddy-buddy with Oromos" lool.


Lol nah, There isn't much anyone could've done about dirdhabe since it's a federal state. Geri kombe are daroods who get attacked 25km away from jigjiga and reer galbeed were still apathetic. Absame being the majority and the ones who hold leadership positions should lead this dagaal vs these qotis but will only mobilize once they feel threatened. It's long past the time of dividing ourselves by clans cos shits getting real
 
Aren't they right though? Dir did let the "refugees" in. Only thing I admire about Ogaden is they don't let Oromos go near them.

Yes and No.

Yes it is a Dir problem because they (some Dir groups) were the ones who intermixed with Oromos. Others ended up also being absorbed into Oromo communities because the Oromos outnumbered them (especially after the Ahmed Gurey wars - Barsuuq being an example). Also allowing Oromo groups to even live as close to you (like in Dire) is an issue, these guys want the Land and will even use the "Dir iyo Oromo was walaalo" which is BS. I say Gurgure need to spearhead the movement in Dire and put their current beef with Ciise to sleep and get these Oromos out of the city and back to their mountains, all other somalis who are living in Dire (who are not Ciise or GG) should back the beef.

The Oromos consider people who speak oromo to be oromo, but Somalis don't do that, you have to prove that your a somali by your lineage. They (Dirs) should of outlawed any oromo male-somalis woman marriages, and only allowed for somali men to take oromo women as wives, at least then the children will have an identity that other somalis would acknowledge (qabiil)

No because OG's want Somalis from the interior (proper-Somalia) to help get them out of ethiopian gumeysi but do not want to help out other somalis who are also under ethio gumeysi.
 
Lol nah, There isn't much anyone could've done about dirdhabe since it's a federal state. Geri kombe are daroods who get attacked 25km away from jigjiga and reer galbeed were still apathetic. Absame being the majority and the ones who hold leadership positions should lead this dagaal vs these qotis but will only mobilize once they feel threatened. It's long past the time of dividing ourselves by clans cos shits getting real

Absame (specifically OG) aren't going to do anything until there is a functioning Somali government (that they like), so that other somalis can come in and help them fight the Xabash/Oromo gov.
 
Yes and No.

Yes it is a Dir problem because they (some Dir groups) were the ones who intermixed with Oromos. Others ended up also being absorbed into Oromo communities because the Oromos outnumbered them (especially after the Ahmed Gurey wars - Barsuuq being an example). Also allowing Oromo groups to even live as close to you (like in Dire) is an issue, these guys want the Land and will even use the "Dir iyo Oromo was walaalo" which is BS. I say Gurgure need to spearhead the movement in Dire and put their current beef with Ciise to sleep and get these Oromos out of the city and back to their mountains, all other somalis who are living in Dire (who are not Ciise or GG) should back the beef.

The Oromos consider people who speak oromo to be oromo, but Somalis don't do that, you have to prove that your a somali by your lineage. They (Dirs) should of outlawed any oromo male-somalis woman marriages, and only allowed for somali men to take oromo women as wives, at least then the children will have an identity that other somalis would acknowledge (qabiil)

No because OG's want Somalis from the interior (proper-Somalia) to help get them out of ethiopian gumeysi but do not want to help out other somalis who are also under ethio gumeysi.


You need to know the Gurgura more then to think they’d go to war with Noole over Isse.

Won’t ever happen. And to begin with, you really don’t know what’s happening in the DD area. Most of this “Oromo vs Isse” beef is actually Gurgura vs Issa. These Gurguras speak both languages, some claim oromo, others Somali.

And Oromos don’t consider anyone Oromo for speaking the language. You need to be part of the clan structure, including the assimilated clans. They fit into the major clans and are given equal rights.
 
You need to know the Gurgura more then to think they’d go to war with Noole over Isse.

Won’t ever happen. And to begin with, you really don’t know what’s happening in the DD area. Most of this “Oromo vs Isse” beef is actually Gurgura vs Issa. These Gurguras speak both languages, some claim oromo, others Somali.

And Oromos don’t consider anyone Oromo for speaking the language. You need to be part of the clan structure, including the assimilated clans. They fit into the major clans and are given equal rights.

Ok I'll take what you said as the truth for now, especially the highlighted part.

As for the red bit: what is their beef about and how did it originate.

And have Noole (Oromo) ever had any beef with Gurgure(app. mixed Oromo and Somali)?
 
Ok I'll take what you said as the truth for now, especially the highlighted part.

As for the red bit: what is their beef about and how did it originate.

And have Noole (Oromo) ever had any beef with Gurgure(app. mixed Oromo and Somali)?


Competition. Places like Malka Jabdu are prominatly Gurgura but the isse are gaining wins in the business. Gurguras are getting upset with the increase repensation of Isse over them and they are targeting people and vise versa.

Noole have never fought Gurgura, we’ve always been allied. The only people Noole have fought in the past are the Ala AQ and the Isse.
 
Lol nah, There isn't much anyone could've done about dirdhabe since it's a federal state. Geri kombe are daroods who get attacked 25km away from jigjiga and reer galbeed were still apathetic. Absame being the majority and the ones who hold leadership positions should lead this dagaal vs these qotis but will only mobilize once they feel threatened. It's long past the time of dividing ourselves by clans cos shits getting real
Dir are the ones who decided to leave the region and side with Oromos when we was trench deep in war with Ethiopia. Why should we help you now that your former allies have turned their attention on you, especially when you didn't lift a finger during our struggles and actually tried to benefit off it?

We can't even tell who claims Somali Dir or Oromo Dir :manny:

Ogaden won't make the same mistake of helping others in the name of Somalinimo only to be backstabbed.
 
Dir aren't the only ones who live in Galbeed, Isaaq and Hawiye live there as well. What do you OGs think about them? Personally I think Dir Dhabe is a lost cause. If we ever get Galbeed back inshaalah, we should just let Ethiopia keep that city and we'll just take the rest. More likely than getting it all back.
Dir numbers are heavy in Galbeed what are you on about.
 

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Dir are the ones who decided to leave the region and side with Oromos when we was trench deep in war with Ethiopia. Why should we help you now that your former allies have turned their attention on you, especially when you didn't lift a finger during our struggles and actually tried to benefit off it?

We can't even tell who claims Somali Dir or Oromo Dir :manny:

Ogaden won't make the same mistake of helping others in the name of Somalinimo only to be backstabbed.

This is a new era and noones asking a thing from ogaden as a whole, Cagjar presides over all of somali galbeed and has a duty to help all his ppl and not just his clan. If he doesn't want to take on his responsibilities then dadka si cad haa ugu sheego. Oromos are 25km away from jigjiga, you're talking as if it's not in your best interest to care. Wake up and smell the coffee.

There's no such thing as "dir" fyi. Jaarso, gurgure and akisho are all oromo
 
This is a new era and noones asking a thing from ogaden as a whole, Cagjar presides over all of somali galbeed and has a duty to help all his ppl and not just his clan. If he doesn't want to take on his responsibilities then dadka si cad haa ugu sheego. Oromos are 25km away from jigjiga, you're talking as if it's not in your best interest to care. Wake up and smell the coffee.

There's no such thing as "dir" fyi. Jaarso, gurgure and akisho are all oromo
Dire is its own region and chartered city, nothing Cagjar can do about it.

As for Oromo, we've been karbaashing them for centuries. Ogaden knows how to handle the savages.
 
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