Mogadishu Is Transitional Capital

DR OSMAN

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He made a good point that I nearly forgot. The capital of Somalia isn't official. Plus the constitution isn't official itself but transitional. So lets all fight to make our arguments why the capital needs relocating. In the past Harar-Zaylac was the HQ of Adal sultanate. It was religious state however and consisted of Muslims, it was not a nation state. It was operating it's in time period because there was no nation state in the 14th century, most societies were kingdoms ruled by the Vatican as head of the european kingdoms.

I say there is no economical benefit having the capital towards the south, there is no economic justification as the trade corridor today is definitely not towards Kenya and Tanzania. I can understand in the time of Oman Empire the trade Omani trade would benefit Southern coastal towns but today that is over. I don't see a political reason either, in-fact politically it's very unstable due to the capital with hawiye clans not in agreement.

Civil war history leaves a distate in my many people mouth who will never come back to Mogadishu again, the capital image is dead. The city doesn't serve to unite the nation like capitals should, in-fact it disunites the nation with regions going to foreign countries. Mogadishu appears to behave like a regional govt more so then a federal govt, it competes with the regions when it was supposed to act neutral like capitals in all countries do. I never seen Washington DC sending armies into Regional govts in America or interfering in their state elections. This shows me Hamar is a regional govt and we should declare it as such.
 
The capital should be somewhere in the north like bosaso, Garowe, cerrigabo, etc. The country will make a swift turn and the power base will change. We might even get a isaaq president where in the south it’s not possible.
 

DR OSMAN

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The capital should be somewhere in the north like bosaso, Garowe, cerrigabo, etc. The country will make a swift turn and the power base will change. We might even get a isaaq president where in the south it’s not possible.

Dude Hawiye when left alone has two options.

1. No govt like HS/GM because they lack the academic prowess and have been accustomed to wait for Somalis to build them a state.

2. Warlord activities like 94-2004 where they agreed to no hawiye can bring a govt to hamar, they just reverted to 'war economy' tactics like extorting vehicles, businesses in bakaraha, airport passenger extortion, etc.

3. They build an administration and have their ISIMO come together(if they have any) and ask their politicians to sit down and work out a deal and run it past hawiye elders for 'authorization' like PL did. But this is highly unlikely as they do not have the same culture as us. In Hamar warlords and politicians have full power, but in PL Royals have clan power. So there is difference in our culture since we were essentially a kingdom and they weren't dee but a colony.

The fact remains no matter what anyone says. The constitution is TRANSITIONAL, so the capital status is itself not official.
 

DR OSMAN

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The capital should be somewhere in the north like bosaso, Garowe, cerrigabo, etc. The country will make a swift turn and the power base will change. We might even get a isaaq president where in the south it’s not possible.

Moe what are the 'sifoyin' or criteria we want from a capital?

1. A place that serves as unity point for all clans who don't feel fear or intimidation
2. A place where all Somalis feel equal
3. Neutral capital like the rest of the world who doesn't interfere in the processes of the region or else it's not unifying the nation like a capital should
4. A place with a good track record historically towards Somalis. We must grade this across all towns who have been the most welcoming of Somalis and who has transitioned well into their societies. PL southies are good example how they made a life for themselves in PL and participate in our economy as traders and live in peace and not persecuted, this is evidence that PL can do same for all Somalis if it can do it for southies.
5. Economic reasons where is the economic activities happening in the world, as all capitals align towards the economic zone of the world.
6. Security reasons. Local security is the area totally dominated by one clan as this can serve as a risk they may invade the capital, is it balanced by two clans to serve a check n balance on the capital?

Add other criterias u feel important in order to be a capital. Currently this Mogadishu isn't a capital for me, I treat it like regional city in Somalia. A true capital 'evokes' no emotions in it's country since the law of the capital is 'no regional favoritism' or the nation state collapses.
 

DR OSMAN

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The capital should be somewhere in the north like bosaso, Garowe, cerrigabo, etc. The country will make a swift turn and the power base will change. We might even get a isaaq president where in the south it’s not possible.

Rather then spending time on 100% on the news which is just reporting events, we need to discuss our national organs or legal system or federalism or constitution. Many clans are not prepared for this and it's 'edge' we have if we prepare ourselves years in advance while their busy in the media. By the time we have discussions, they spent their time on useless endeavours. The capital cannot have military, weapons, or anything like all capitals in the world. It has to be located in the REGIONS away from civilian areas. PL must be the Military station of Somalia or somewhere away from capital. Ceeb weeye to bring nations to your capital looking like A WARZONE, they sitting in xalane in shipping containers saying who a re they low iq ppl

All abgaals n hg needs to be disarmed if they want the capital status u cant get capital and military it doesnt work like that proper nation states. U need to choose one and accept the loss on the other side, its called negiotations, their baboons their academics is dead so their strategy is to use violence to negiotate which isn't going to help them as it means CONFEDERATION RESPONSE
 
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DR OSMAN

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I say immediate confederation like the EU, so PL doesnt have to be held down. I want to be like France doing my own thing as a state with weakened brussels capital. Till their is real constitution. Aduunka ka iibiya, somalina isku yeera mar kale. Hamar has no power since the constitution isnt official, they think they do. I know how to hurt hawiye abtiyashay weeye, waa adigo faraha kala baxto waxay noqonayan GM/HS oo kale while u become ENGLAND, wuuna ka maseera, hawiye wa dad maseero sxb i hear them on the phone always. This will help with reconcilation markanu kala maqan nahay for 20 years, waxayba keeni karta in aan jeclado kkkk oo uu xiiso, lakin intay wax iga xiran tahay hamar jecel ma jiro sxb its hurting our unity as nation. Even all the parliament bills sxb its not official legally in hamar, wala tirtiri kara as ku meel gaar baad hos jogteen kkkkk. Mogadishu is a trusteeship thats why nothing is official in hamar, their trying to inject capacity to rebuild them gaaladu to bring them out of 67 and to 80 level in PL who is connected to oman who is 80 iq
 

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Ceerigabo is my top pick.

Perfect climate for high productivity.

Most civilization place of origin had a median temperature similar to ceerigabo.

Jijiga is another option with an even better climate but unfortunately we don't control it.
 

DR OSMAN

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Excellent shall we declare a competition for capital like Australia did when Melbourne and Sydney the two largest cities had a 'deadlock'? what methodology are we going to use? without a methodology, it's just mere opinions going back n forth bro and it can't be 'measured' against a methodology. Let's just agree on the methodology and the selection of the capital will be simple when we begin a 'tender' process for all regions to demonstrate why they should be capital and how this going to help Somalia as a whole, most clans will respond with clan points kkkk not responding to the criterias required of a capital.

It's probably how Somalis fill job applications and get rejected not responding to the job criteria as the position requires a skill set, stop talking about yourself but how your skills align to the criterias. Somalis won't respond how their region is best for capital by reading the whole damn methodology and criteria that needs answering.

Then we will have a neutral international stakeholder 'grade' who has the strongest responses. Or we can have a trans-tribal commitee who assesses all claims against the capital methodology and critieria and gives each region a score based on their response. Some is going to be selected for a job sxb when the panel is done reviewing interviews and applications, it's life there is winner and loser and somalis need to accept the outcome of capital selection.

BURY HAMAR, CUZ I CANT SEE THE COMMITEE FOR THE CAPITAL CITY LOOKING TO FAVORABLY ON MOGADISHU APPLICATION FOR CAPITAL. I CANT WAIT TO US REAL ACADEMICS RETURN TO SOMALIA AND BRING THEM OUT OF THE DARK AGES.
 

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