Map and classification of the Omo-Tana languages (the language group Somali is in), OC (Revised)

[Mohamedamiin120]

 

[Mohamedamiin120]

Last post had a few errors (not including Dabarre and Tunni).

Potential questions: "What is 'Somali Languages'?" Somali languages are languages with high levels of overlap with Somali (labeled as Standard Somali here), and which was heavily influenced by Somali and in return heavily influences Somali speakers close by- a classic language continuum. "What is Baiso-Jiddu?" I trust the research, idk.

Questions that I have: How did Arbore and Daasnach people's keep their language very pure with little Amharic, Oromo, or Nuer influence even though today they have heavy Nilotic admixure and endured centuries of Ethiopian rule? And how has Daasnach kept features considered to be very very old for an Afroasiatic language which is not even spoken by a people who today are identifiable with the original speakers of it? "What is Baiso-Jiddu?" Well I have zero clue, as the Baiso people are incredibly small. Maybe before the Oromo invasions they were a much larger people and us Somalis enslaved them and brought them to Somalia, then intermingled with Somalis to enter the Somali language continuum.

 

[ZBR]

So Somalia learned Somali after coming to Somalia hmm

 

[Mohamedamiin120]

So Somalia learned Somali after coming to Somalia hmm

Somali was likely developed within Somaliweyn, it’s just that the language group as a whole likely migrated here- with the Omotic people likely being displaced in the process. The main theory is that the ancestors of the Somali, Oromo, Afar, etc etc were likely from Egypt/Sudan (where the Beja of Egypt and Sudan historically/currently are) and slowly migrated south. However this was a very very very very long time ago so there are a lot of ideas.

 

[Barkhadle1520]

How is tunni separate and not sub of somali

 

[Mohamedamiin120]

How is tunni separate and not sub of somali

Linguists say it’s apart of a language continuum with Standard Somali (as in a separate but heavily overlapping language), and not a dialect of Somali (as in a group of ppl speaking Standard Somali deviated slowly over time and that’s why it’s different.)

 

[Barkhadle1520]

Linguists say it’s apart of a language continuum with Standard Somali (as in a separate but heavily overlapping language), and not a dialect of Somali (as in a group of ppl speaking Standard Somali deviated slowly over time and that’s why it’s different.)

Bs

 

[Mohamedamiin120]

Bs

It has it's own sentence structure and phenology, a hallmark for a separate language. Infact my error here was not that I put Tunni under Somali but that I did not put Tunni and Dabarre under 'Tunni-Dabarre' (I did not read hard enough i'm afraid)

 

[Mohamedamiin120]

It has it's own sentence structure and phenology, a hallmark for a separate language. Infact my error here was not that I put Tunni under Somali but that I did not put Tunni and Dabarre under 'Tunni-Dabarre' (I did not read hard enough i'm afraid)

Fixed??? Read extra throughly so this is the last change needed hopfully

 

[Barkhadle1520]

View attachment 364414Fixed??? Read extra throughly so this is the last change needed hopfully

genuinely what is cursing my eyes

 

[Mohamedamiin120]

genuinely what is cursing my eyes

wdym?

 

[Shangani]

aff mahadoonte ? where would it fit

 

[Mohamedamiin120]

aff mahadoonte ? where would it fit

I have zero clue as no books mention it but according to ppl on r/Somalia (scraping the bottom of the barrel here lol) it is possibly a offshoot of Af Maay/Maaxa. (Assuming you are a speaker of the language) you could easily fact check this with a grammar/structure comparison.

Also some random ass German language book says it's related to Garre with like zero proof.

Linguistics is weird...

 

[Shangani]

I have zero clue as no books mention it but according to ppl on r/Somalia (scraping the bottom of the barrel here lol) it is possibly a offshoot of Af Maay/Maaxa. (Assuming you are a speaker of the language) you could easily fact check this with a grammar/structure comparison.

Also some random ass German language book says it's related to Garre with like zero proof.

Linguistics is weird...

no I don't speak it was just curious as a lot of people in shingani and merka speak it its also called of merka.

 

[reer_ugaas_hussein]

aff mahadoonte ? where would it fit

af mahadoonte and benadiri dialects in general are also forms of af maxaa tiri so would just be part of standard somali.

 

[Shangani]

af mahadoonte and benadiri dialects in general are also forms of af maxaa tiri so would just be part of standard somali.

Af mahadoonte isnt maaxa tiri i think its more similar to maay