Maadow pastor says “black” people never built anything before colonization

When India gained independence in the 1940s, it was an extremely poor country, around 80% of the population lived in poverty, struggling with basic necessities like food and energy. One of their biggest challenges was the energy crisis, which they tried to address by investing in nuclear power. However, even today, nuclear energy only accounts for about 3.3% of their energy mix, and much of the rural energy economy has long relied on traditional sources like cow dung.

I think the point about Sub-Saharan Africa’s GDP per capita was meant to suggest that there was a window of opportunity for growth, development, or investment but it may not have been fully capitalized on.
The problem is that windows was deceptive. Most african countires had no actual educated labor force to even began to build with.

You cant really compare that with india or china which had a large class of educated bureaucrats to work with. The first generation of educated modern African elites only emerged around ww2 in the 1940s this was about 50 years after it emerged in china and India.

To be clear here we are not talking about the masses but the elite classes.
 
Guys chill with the Ethiopia bashing. I have no problem repping Ethiopian civilization to prove racists and others wrong who think blacks never built anything
 
The guy is spreading racist narrative of the white supremacists, civilization was started from black man. East Africa was the origins of civilization look at ancient Egypt it's history is was started in upper Egypt which was black dominated, Tutankhamen was a east African so was his family, they lied about his DNA and said he has European genes. The story that black didn't build any civilization is a lie still being told do cover up real black ancient history
 
The problem is that windows was deceptive. Most african countires had no actual educated labor force to even began to build with.

You cant really compare that with india or china which had a large class of educated bureaucrats to work with. The first generation of educated modern African elites only emerged around ww2 in the 1940s this was about 50 years after it emerged in china and India.

To be clear here we are not talking about the masses but the elite classes.
Do you mean they had a large Western-educated class? That’s true to some extent especially in India, where colonial policies produced a sizable number of English educated bureaucrats for the colonial administration. China too had pockets of reformist and modern educated elites.

But it’s important to note that, despite those elite classes, the majority of the population in both India and China remained illiterate and impoverished well into the mid-20th century.

So I think the original point about GDP per capita wasn’t necessarily about institutional capacity or education, but about a missed window of opportunity an economic position where, with the right leadership or support, African nations could have potentially accelerated development in a way similar to East Asia. That window didn’t reflect readiness, but potential

Somalia probably had the largest potential out of them all if it hadn't been externally derailed. There was a sizeable educated class developing both inside and outside the country. Somalia made scientific advances in agriculture, veterinary sciences, and its doctors were even performing open heart surgery. It’s a case where political interference, not lack of capability, set back what could have been a regional model for development.
 
Whats with you madow boot licker's obssesion with Arabs so cringe wlhi

Always defending the people that hate you as well, absolutely hate you people from the bottom of my heart
there is no way you’re saying I’m obsessed with Arabs when ur the one handing over the entirety of Ethiopian history to Arabs (with questionable and outdated sources at that) :faysalwtf: You’re making no goddamn sense you gotta be a troll. Goodbye
 
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The guy is spreading racist narrative of the white supremacists, civilization was started from black man. East Africa was the origins of civilization look at ancient Egypt it's history is was started in upper Egypt which was black dominated, Tutankhamen was a east African so was his family, they lied about his DNA and said he has European genes. The story that black didn't build any civilization is a lie still being told do cover up real black ancient history
The bigger question is why are all these Distinct Civilizations all characterized as "Black" Civilizations?

Chinese, and Arabs are pale/white skinned yet would you consider the Qing Dynasty and Rashidun Caliphate to be "White" Civilizations?
 
The bigger question is why are all these Distinct Civilizations all characterized as "Black" Civilizations?

Chinese, and Arabs are pale/white skinned yet would you consider the Qing Dynasty and Rashidun Caliphate to be "White" Civilizations?
Arabs were not white originally. Chinese are rarely pale skinned, mostly yellow and light brown.
 
there is no way you’re saying I’m obsessed with Arabs when ur the one handing over the entirety of Ethiopian history to Arabs (with questionable and outdated sources at that) :faysalwtf: You’re making no goddamn sense you gotta be a troll. Goodbye
Sabaeans weren't even Arabs, youre trying to argue about history when you dont even know what youre talking about
 
Guys chill with the Ethiopia bashing. I have no problem repping Ethiopian civilization to prove racists and others wrong who think blacks never built anything
The same Ethiopians who claim that Awfat and Awdal weren't Somali polities, and all the medieval towns in Eastern Ethiopia were built by Argobba people Muslim Amharas? No need to go hard in the paint for them bro.

If you really want something to rep, Mention that Narmer, the first pharaoh and unifier of Upper and Lower Egypt, and the Naqada culture he descended from, were racially East African. They were anywhere from 30 to 40% black, not too dissimilar from Modern Sudanese Arabs, Bejas, and Northern Horn African populations.
 
The same Ethiopians who claim that Awfat and Awdal weren't Somali polities, and all the medieval towns in Eastern Ethiopia were built by Argobba people Muslim Amharas? No need to go hard in the paint for them bro.

If you really want something to rep, Mention that Narmer, the first pharaoh and unifier of Upper and Lower Egypt, and the Naqada culture he descended from, were racially East African. They were anywhere from 30 to 40% black, not too dissimilar from Modern Sudanese Arabs, Bejas, and Northern Horn African populations.
Yeah, Ethiopia certainly isn't my first choice to mention when talking about black civilization, I just found the random dogpiling of it here in this thread sort of cringe. That said, I used to glaze Ethiopian history a ton back when I wasn't very knowledgeable of Horner history lmao.

That stuff about Narmer being racially East African is pretty interesting. I know that Upper Egypt had influence from Nubia but I didn't know it went that far.
 
Yeah, Ethiopia certainly isn't my first choice to mention when talking about black civilization, I just found the random dogpiling of it here in this thread sort of cringe. That said, I used to glaze Ethiopian history a ton back when I wasn't very knowledgeable of Horner history lmao.
Aksumite history is very interesting since it was basically the Roman Empire of the Horn. However once we get into medieval Ethiopian history and the Solomonic dynasty, there is a sharp drop-off in civilizational sophistication. Their kings were nomads who moved about until the establishment of Gondar as a capital in the 17th century.

That stuff about Narmer being racially East African is pretty interesting. I know that Upper Egypt had influence from Nubia but I didn't know it went that far.
The Naqada culture, which gave rise to Dynastic Egypt, had roughly as much Black ancestry as the A-Group Nubians, or perhaps slightly less. If you look at osteological and craniometric studies, the Sub-Saharan affinities are frankly well established.

Granted it's a very low coverage sample but thought I share anyways. Just don't get too carried away with it and claim they were Cushitic or something crazy.
 
There was a thread here a not too long ago that shows the sources I’ll link it to you.

 

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