Legendary Dr Adna Adan meets with Irir Samaale wafdi

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Imo PL should respect the 18 gobols. It’s valid to say Sanaag+Sool if they wanted and there was agreement with all clans that live there should be about to create a FMS (but that isn’t the case as Isaaq don’t want this). And on Mudug, there should not be north or south mudug in a post conflict and a settled Somalia
What will you do about it?
 
Because PL knew it had no chance of defeating Sacad in mudug. Eventually had to accept Galmudug despite thinking they’d settled this with Garowe1+2 two gobol restriction on FMS’s. Isaaq are well aware they can enforce their border, even if it takes a while. So it’s not realistic.

I do think that the two-gobol rule qualification for a state was reasonable, given the mess we see today in Somali politics. It would only be much worse and ineffective with a dozen+ FMS. Practically impossible.

As far as Isaaqs, you're overestimating them. If they can enforce their borders, why have they yet to step foot in eastern Sanaag? At the end of the day, SL's presence can only happen and sustain at the invitation of the locals. Without the locals' support, they can't exist anywhere regardless of whatever border they claim was given to them by Ingiriiska. :manny:
 

bidenkulaha

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I do think that the two-gobol rule qualification for a state was reasonable, given the mess we see today in Somali politics. It would only be much worse and ineffective with a dozen+ FMS. Practically impossible.

As far as Isaaqs, you're overestimating them. If they can enforce their borders, why have they yet to step foot in eastern Sanaag? At the end of the day, SL's presence can only happen and sustain with the invitation of the locals. Without the locals' support, they can exist anywhere regardless of whatever border they claim was given to them by Ingiriiska. :manny:
You don’t need to convince me, tell Muuse Bihi to give up on Laascaanood. I doubt he’ll be receptive
 

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You don’t need to convince me, tell Muuse Bihi to give up on Laascaanood. I doubt he’ll be receptive

Dummy PL isnt involved it's 'macawisleys' which is probably all u understand but their called clan militias. SL is attackin civilians in laska like usc did in g-town in 92, u guys fight civilians not soldiers can u deny? SNA with all hags n GM r freeing u today u did the same in 92 with USC bringing all hags. The reality is beletwayn river south is italies, up and above is hobyo sultanate and majerteniya sultanate. Beletwayn illa Bari 80% is majerten the colonials knew that n carved it like that intially. HS/GM combined is Majerteniya is reality.
 
You don’t need to convince me, tell Muuse Bihi to give up on Laascaanood. I doubt he’ll be receptive

Muse the warlord, have returned to his old ways. He only understand the language of bullets. :francis:

So far, we've only seen SL eat their own words, from threatening Somalia to barely being able to capture a city. :drakekidding:
 

bidenkulaha

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Dummy PL isnt involved it's 'macawisleys' which is probably all u understand but their called clan militias. SL is attackin civilians in laska like usc did in g-town in 92, u guys fight civilians not soldiers can u deny? SNA with all hags n GM r freeing u today u did the same in 92 with USC bringing all hags. The reality is beletwayn river south is italies, up and above is hobyo sultanate and majerteniya sultanate. Beletwayn illa Bari 80% is majerten the colonials knew that n carved it like that intially. HS/GM combined is Majerteniya is reality.
What are you talking about. You can’t say at the same time that HAG is freeing me then also say separate ‘me’ from HAG.

1. The land being liberated today is Murusade and Waceysle land. Which I’m happy to support whether through SNA or Galmudug forces.

2. You can’t however then say I need HAG to free my land because HG land has long been free.
 
Dummy PL isnt involved it's 'macawisleys' which is probably all u understand but their called clan militias. SL is attackin civilians in laska like usc did in g-town in 92, u guys fight civilians not soldiers can u deny? SNA with all hags n GM r freeing u today u did the same in 92 with USC bringing all hags. The reality is beletwayn river south is italies, up and above is hobyo sultanate and majerteniya sultanate. Beletwayn illa Bari 80% is majerten the colonials knew that n carved it like that intially. HS/GM combined is Majerteniya is reality.
Bro have you not notice this irir samaale only show their muscles to shaabka darood but when the riders arrive then it's somalinimo they are just like the hutus city fighters no wonder their numbers where not high in 77
 

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Bro have you not notice this irir samaale only show their muscles to shaabka darood but when the riders arrive then it's somalinimo they are just like the hutus city fighters no wonder their numbers where not high in 77

It's due to the urban conditioning of ciyaal magaalo vs toughness of nomadic base. The quality is a difference in wars when guided by 'plans n strategies n objectives' achieved.
 

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@Neero if PL combines intelligence n storing their general/sarkaal longevity to develop war theater experience plus a dhagax eating rural miyi soldier base, wa og yahay @bidenkulaha the devastation that will cause cuz that's why galgaduud clans over-rode the southies easy, cuz the southies r not conditioned. But Biden only has small reserve of them from beletwayn to galgaduud, darod has 'qaarad' of them lol. That's why he admires 'darod' biden. Til today galgaduud dhagax eating n1ggas folks rule hamar 4 reason kkkk.

Thats why biden focuses on darod its his only threat to keep hamar southies in lock n under HG, he knows a whole continent of them existdhagaxs eating n1ggas waiting like ahmed gurey days to be called into reserves
 
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@Neero the urban conditioning of cities means entertainment, food, water, work, money, all things that corrupt 'soldiers heart' when in battle, but what does the dhagax eating n1gga have to lose other then preparing to be called into reserves and unleash hell, that's all his mind is thinking plus their always learning thru oral histories about their awoowes in battle to enhance their mentality for war. Biden wuu yaqana waxani wuu iska indha tira. Plus theirs a whole 'qaarad' or continent size of them and he knows that not small galgaduud only
 

bidenkulaha

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@Neero the urban conditioning of cities means entertainment, food, water, work, money, all things that corrupt 'soldiers heart' when in battle, but what does the dhagax eating n1gga have to lose other then preparing to be called into reserves and unleash hell, that's all his mind is thinking plus their always learning thru oral histories about their awoowes in battle to enhance their mentality for war. Biden wuu yaqana waxani wuu iska indha tira. Plus theirs a whole 'qaarad' or continent size of them and he knows that not small galgaduud only
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Cuz it was brilliant strategy and I give u credit for coming up with it. Southies r conditioned 4 nice life and that means they will avoid war at all cost or surrender due to corruption of the heart urbanization does to soldiers. Where-as nomadic rural base is constantly in conflict, no entertainment or urban vices, only sitting their mentally conditioning under the desert thru oral stories of wars. U see how urbanites flee like hamar, las anod, hargeisa 88. But we r lucky our urbanization to nomadic is still 80/20 with 80% very rural or nomadic still. We must use our urbanites for productivity not put em in wars as the outcomes will not be good and only put to wars 'nomadic' base so theirs an 'edge' in soldier quality
 
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Cuz it was brilliant strategy and I give u credit for coming up with it. Southies r conditioned 4 nice life and that means they will avoid war at all cost or surrender due to corruption of the heart urbanization does to soldiers. Where-as nomadic rural base is constantly in conflict, no entertainment or urban vices, only sitting their mentally conditioning under the desert thru oral stories of wars. U see how urbanites flee like hamar, las anod, hargeisa 88. But we r lucky our urbanization to nomadic is still 80/20 with 80% very rural or nomadic still. We must use our urbanites for productivity not put em in wars as the outcomes will not be good and only put to wars 'nomadic' base so theirs an 'edge' in soldier quality
We are living in 2023 and she is still living in the past. Any brave man with a weapon will fight well even if he is a city dweller. Do Russians and Ukrainians look like nomads to you?
 

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