so youβre okay with a group of boys beating your daughter? Where does it stop? Are you hearing yourself? Authobillah? Also, how do you know a random person has your childβs best interest at heart?
Walaalo, in real life, it does not just begin with beatings. At first, it starts with reflections, and where they listen not, nor heed counsel to mend their ways, then a smack or two would work wonders in my world.
Oh come now, I am actually more concerned about the girls, for they are easy prey for all sorts of predatory beings out there. Granted, boys are now as a target as girls, even if more so in the gang, and drug under world. I am as concerned for both.
No, it doesnβt. Because anyone that sees you around enough to give you reflections and the like will know your family and can directly speak to a womanβs Mahram instead of touching her himself. There is a serious lack of gheerah or concern for you womenfolk it seems if youβre justifying random boys who can easily speak to you, hurting and touching your daughter. Youβre even trying to justify school boys hitting school girls. Boys who are kids themselves who probably get up to no good at times.
Oh come now, that is a bit off target, would not you say?
I am very aware of those dangers, and also recognise potential threats from predatory men, even Somalis.
Walaalo, we are now in an uncharted territory, and perhaps we might want to halt it there to revisit the topic another time.
Nope you donβt.
Walaal, we were not the type to abuse our own.
You might not, but a lot of men are. Rule number one you need to learn in this world is that men are men first. Itβs some thing you need to know as a father, hence promoting random men beating up women and disciplining them in the light of this is sick and twisted.Iβve heard of many cases of our own beating their own.
I'm telling you the truth. It's easy to get to a young man and make him understand where he is wrong. A woman brought up in the west will not listen to you. She will say you're not her father and tell you off. It is futile to think you can help them, just leave them be. Even if an older woman says something, the girl will call her a jealous hag. Boys and girls are not the same. I have seen it.
See, now the conversation has veered into an unfamiliar territory, where we are talking as if two average Westerners, where I am considering the virtues of our culture, and religion, and perhaps you are thinking of all possible ills, and all possible things, which could go wrong.
This whole thread is news to me.How about we promote older women speaking to young girls instead of men speaking to women when they really shouldnβt? How about these men report these girls to their mahrams?
This isnβt about Somali culture or Western one. Itβs about behaving in a decent and Islamic manner and not touching Mahram women. Speak to her or her father which is better, but rolling around in a gang and beating people up thinking your judge and jury is sickening.
Again, not women, and not good boys, or girls.
Honestly from my experience, Iβve only ever heard of delinquent Somali boys jumping girls. Decent boys arenβt roaming the streets and getting involved with random girls. They donβt free-mix.Say wallahi youβll get jumped by a bunch of Somali teenagers if youβre caught slipping in London. Is that a thing??!!
@vintagesomalimanphoto - how did this vigilante neighbourhood watch work? Iβm confused.
Would you say our different roles in the community, and disparate experiences are informing our diverging positions?
Nope, I canβt because any man who thinks he can beat up or slap a random girl isnβt a good one nor does he have correct Islamic etiquette.
Don't be obtuse, you know there wouldn't be nearly as many young boys and girls acting up if they were raised in a Muslim country.
