Kevin Samuel dead?

[Nilotic]

The average Muslim has less in common with the secularists who are anti-traditional family and pro-divorce, pro-abortion, pro-‘woman finding themselves sexually’, normalising unhealthy women etc.

I don’t come from the same angle with KS though agreed him on several things but I can’t accept your nonsense about Muslims having more in common with secularists than KS

I was referring to secularists like me; I'm a secularist, but I value the family, the community and the ideals that keep it together.

KS was a secular man that advocated for all the wrong, sinful things, so what on earth did he share in common with Islam?

 

[Bundasliga]

He can't be against baby mama culture if he is advocating for people to have sex with HVM early on or okay with cheating. A lot of these baby mamas didn't intend to become one. They had sex with a man early on without knowing if he would 100% stick around which is literally what he advocates to women. Then once they become pregnant, they are ones wholly blamed for succumbing to men's pleasures. If this isn't misogynist, I don't know what it. There is no winning as a woman.

How does that make sense in the slightest and how can you take such a man serious then?

Why are you purposely blinding yourself?! Use your common sense and stop fangirling.

This has nothing to do with fangirling & more with the fact that people lie about what he said lol .

he's initial advice is to not go for a HVM ,because they likely won't get him .

 

[Angelina]

This has nothing to do with fangirling & more with the fact that people lie about what he said lol .

he's initial advice is to not go for a HVM ,because they likely won't get him .

What is crazy is that he is from a community in which their women are usually the breadwinners even whilst in a relationship and statistics prove this. In his eyes, HVM is simply a man with money. Black women even the educated ones don't even usually get with one. Whilst cadaan women even while being totally average have men providing for them.

How is that fair?!


Surely a better advice would be is to tell women NOT to sleep with a man without commitment?

Tell women to only go for men that can provide for them whilst making sure to not get pregnant will benefit the madow community?!

 

[Geeljire lotus]

I honestly believe women are evil. Weak people are always evil

 

[bidenkulaha]

I honestly believe women are evil. Weak people are always evil

Cuqdad. I don’t like generalising but many hate their existence.

It’s very unfortunate because feminists are the one’s telling them their lives are worthless.

This is why my favourite women are strong in their deen. Strong imaan and Islam is the antidote to feminism.

 

[Bundasliga]

What is crazy is that he is from a community in which their women are usually the breadwinners even whilst in a relationship and statistics prove this. In his eyes, HVM is simply a man with money. Black women even the educated ones don't even usually get with one. Whilst cadaan women even while being totally average have men providing for them.

How is that fair?!


Surely a better advice would be is to tell women NOT to sleep with a man without commitment?

Tell women to only go for men that can provide for them whilst making sure to not get pregnant will benefit the madow community?!

I completely agree with the last point , but I wanna see data on the first one ,cause it doesn't even make sense .

Why women should be in a relationship with a men & if he ain't the breadwinner ?
That's the opposite of hypergamy

 

[Magan95]

He's not advocating for hvm to cheat, just telling them the reality that men will cheat if women in a marriage let themselves get obese (highly unattractive), personally i disagree that it should be a understood/accepted thing and the man should just leave the relationship rather than cheat, but again i think your misconstruing what he's saying, it's not a sensational point of view, a lot of women would leave a relationship if they no longer find their men attractive due to him not caring for his body, etc. This is probably the most controversial view he has and it seems to get brought up often, but i think Kevin Samuel is coming from the angle of the woman in order to keep her hvm husband should maintain her beauty in order to keep him.
Watch him clarify this position.

In the vide you linked he said High value men don't cheat, they exercise their options.
AKA cheat.

Then continues on to give examples of people who have cheated (like bill gates), or do cheat in their relationships and women ignore it or turn a blind eye to it.

 

[Angelina]

I completely agree with the last point , but I wanna see data on the first one ,cause it doesn't even make sense .

Why women should be in a relationship with a men & if he ain't the breadwinner ?
That's the opposite of hypergamy

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[Vanessa]

Welp

 

[Angelina]

Cuqdad. I don’t like generalising but many hate their existence.

It’s very unfortunate because feminists are the one’s telling them their lives are worthless.

This is why my favourite women are strong in their deen. Strong imaan and Islam is the antidote to feminism.

A bit hypocritical no? @Geeljire lotus

Madow men were laughing at the death of that Lauren Smith-Fields girl who got killed by an cadaan man she was seeing. Simply because she wasn't with a madow man.

I don't know what the correlation of feminism, being a woman or whatever has to do with laughing at someone's death, when men do it as well. Kevin insulted women and would often make vile comments, yet many men laughed at a woman's death for simply being with an cadaan.

So, please stop with the fake outrage.

 

[Bundasliga]

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This quite shocking tbh.

Women out earning men isn't beneficial for both men & women .
Women can't practice hypergamy & many men can't meet their standards.

 

[Nilotic]

This quite shocking tbh.

Women out earning men isn't beneficial for both men & women .
Women can't practice hypergamy & many men can't meet their standards.

That's the thing... black women aren't earning more; it's just that black men are not providing for the women they've had children with.

 

[Juke]

This quite shocking tbh.

Women out earning men isn't beneficial for both men & women .
Women can't practice hypergamy & many men can't meet their standards.

She purposely left out essential parts lol

The full quote:

Only 17.2% of the 68.3% are married bread winners, less than the 20.8% of cadaan women.

The vast majority (51.1%) of the 68.3% is single mothers and their bastards, more than 3 times higher than cadaan women 16.0% and twice as high as hispanic women (25.7%)

 

[Angelina]

She purposely left out essential parts lol

The full quote:

Only 17.2% of the 68.3% are married bread winners, less than the 20.8% of cadaan women. The vast majority (51.1%) of the 68.3% is single mothers and their bastards, more than 3 times higher than cadaan women 16.0% and twice as high as hispanic women (25.7%)

I didn’t purposely leave out anything. It is a fact that they have high rates of single motherhood. But my point is, when they do marry, even then they don't usually marry men who out earn them.

The part you posted, doesn't negate the fact that in marriages they are still co- breadwinners or primary.

So what exactly is your point?

 

[Juke]

I didn’t purposely leave out anything. It is a fact that they have high rates of singlemotherhood. But my point is, when they do marry, even then they don't usually marry men who out earn then.

Your point doesn't make sense. Married cadaan women contribute more to households than married black women.

 

[bidenkulaha]

Your point doesn't make sense. Married cadaan women contribute more to households than married black women.

Cos black women (but also men) are more likely in poverty

 

[Juke]

The part you posted, doesn't negate the fact that in marriages they are still co- breadwinners or primary.

So what exactly is your point?

More married cadaan women (20.8%) are co-breadwinners than married madow women (17.2%)

Pretty clear

 

[Angelina]

Your point doesn't make sense. Married cadaan women contribute more to households than married black women.

Cadaan women have higher marriage rates.... Duuuuh. Oh and population wise there are more cadaans?!



The same article even states:

'both because a higher percentage are single mothers and because when part of a married couple, they are more likely to earn as much as or more than their husbands.'

That is from the same article. I'm sure you can read?

 

[Angelina]

More married cadaan women (20.8%) are co-breadwinners than married madow women (17.2%)

Pretty clear

Same article:

'Black mothers are by far the most likely to be the primary source of economic support for their families; they are more than twice as likely as white mothers to be their family’s breadwinner, and more than 50 percent more likely than Hispanic mothers. see Figure 5)

 

[Juke]

Cos black women (but also men) are more likely in poverty

Their was no threshold for the household income, to qualify as a co-breadwinner women needed to contribute more than 25% of total household income. More cadaan women (20.8%) contribute proportionally than madow women (17.2%).

@Angelina's point about more coupled madow women contributing even when coupled is obvious nonsense.