It’s always the liberal Muslims embarrassing us

[Dinaz]

I’m not even conservative.

And don’t @ me again, your profile picture looks like jinni. I don’t like it. I can feel the negative energy through the phone. You give me sinister vibes.

conservative doesn't always mean trump supporter lol. my pfp is cute but now since you have no points you start jumping to that

 

[Qeelbax]

“Keep your legs closed” isn’t a smart statement. Not everybody is religious or even follows the Abrahamic religions. Safe sex is mostly used in many cases but it only prevents it 97-99% not 100% which means pregnancies still can happen. Sex is nature and people will have sex with each other regardless.

again your statements don’t make sense. Not everybody is Muslim, only 1.8 billion off the 7.9 billion population follow Islam or recognises Islam as their main belief. So for you to use Islamic/Sharia rules to give a solution won’t help. Not everybody follows Islam and they certainly won’t abide to its rules. A Muslim community won’t help billions of mothers in the world who decided to have a child.

some people aren’t fit to be parents and should never have children, that’s a fact. You can’t just let certain women have children when people are aware off the fact they not only are financially not capable of taking care off a baby, they aren’t emotionally nor physically ready either. People don’t have sex for a baby, they have sex for please which is a different thing all in all.

I used the country I reside in as an example, which actually uses scientific back ups. At 16 weeks the fetus starts to develop, hence why you’re not allowed to abort the fetus during this time. The US, Canada and Singapore follow different measures because during the 16-19th weeks a fetus isn’t developed enough to even recognise or feel pain at all.

I don’t care honestly. My religion doesn’t change just because my country is different. Of course my values will affect me and only me, but that doesn’t mean I will make a million excuses for gaal. Whether is abortion is legal or illegal is up to them. I apply my religious beliefs to my life, in America or or Saudi Arabia.

I don’t know why you are so keen on giving them excuses for their laws. You seem very supportive of it. But oh well! I mean what do I know.

 

[Qeelbax]

stop lying to yourself. you think man was made from mud and the quran has so many foolish things that no logical person would actually think is true like men that are over 600 years old and people/animals being turned into grass/straw. you go and ask an imam any question and he will deflect by saying that Allah knows but this works with things that make no logical sense at all. read the quran and it sounded like a fairytale book

Girl please. Last time when I said I knew you were gaal you were deflecting, look at you now. Loud and proud. May god help you!

 

[Xoxoxo]

stop lying to yourself. you think man was made from mud and the quran has so many foolish things that no logical person would actually think is true like men that are over 600 years old and people/animals being turned into grass/straw. you go and ask an imam any question and he will deflect by saying that Allah knows

Okay no I have to disagree.

man being made from mud makes sense in not only islam, but in Christianity & Judaism. Our body rests go back to earth when you die which is a proces in nature itself. We do end up having sand like rests itself.

people especially thousands years ago lived way much more longer then we did, a quick Google search would show you that according to science there isn’t actually a life span and nobody can say or tell how long a human being can last or live.

and an imam saying that makes sense, he isn’t more knowledgeable then Allah (swa).

Getting upset and insulting our beliefs is really not nice or very proper for you. I personally have nothing against people who leave Islam, do what you gotta do, but criticising god and our holy book and our religion itself is just not going to fix everything in your life.

 

[Xoxoxo]

I don’t care honestly. My religion doesn’t change just because my country is different. Of course my values will affect me and only me, but that doesn’t mean I will make a million excuses for gaal. Whether is abortion is legal or illegal is up to them. I apply my religious beliefs to my life, in America or or Saudi Arabia.

I don’t know why you are so keen on giving them excuses for their laws. You seem very supportive of it. But oh well! I mean what do I know.

Yes I personally do support abortus because certain people just don’t deserve to have children and if they do get children they should be immediately get taken away

 

[Qeelbax]

conservative doesn't always mean trump supporter lol. my pfp is cute but now since you have no points you start jumping to that

Girl you keep going in a circle. I know what you meant you fool. Trump kulaha. Islamically I shouldn’t even be doing this. Talking with murtad was the first mistake, I never learn.

@Keep it a boqol 💯 @Xoxoxo
@Roorigeg

Al-Ajurri reported: Al-Hasan al-Basri, may Allah have mercy on him, said, “I have never seen a jurist indulge argumentation. The believer does not debate with the foolish, not does he argue. He spreads the wisdom of Allah. If it is accepted, he praises Allah. If it is rejected, he praises Allah.”

Source: Akhlāq al-‘Ulamā’ lil-Ajurrī 1/58

عن الآجري وَعَنِ الْحَسَنِ البصري رحمه الله قَالَ مَا رَأَيْنَا فَقِيهًا يُمَارِي الْمُؤْمِنُ يُدَارِي وَلَا يُمَارِي يَنْشُرُ حِكْمَةَ اللَّهِ فَإِنْ قُبِلَتْ حَمِدَ اللَّهَ وَإِنْ رُدَّتْ حَمِدَ اللَّهَ

1/58 أخلاق العلماء للآجري

 

[Dinaz]

Okay no I have to disagree.

man being made from mud makes sense in not only islam, but in Christianity & Judaism. Our tests go back to earth when you die which is a proces in nature itself. We do end up having sand like rests itself.

people especially thousands years ago lived way much more longer then we did, a quick Google search would show you that according to science there isn’t actually a life span and nobody can say or tell how long a human being can last or live.

and an imam saying that makes sense, he isn’t more knowledgeable then Allah (swa).

Getting upset and insulting our beliefs is really not nice or very proper for you. I personally have nothing against people who leave Islam, do what you gotta do, but criticising god and our holy book and our religion itself is just not going to fix everything in your life.

please provide me proof of any proof that any human has ever lived to 600-1000 years

the thing is that your religion isn't special enough to not be criticized for it's flaws and it's issues. I also never got upset this whole forum constantly abuses ex muslims and other people but ofc you are the victim. a religion like Islam deserves everything that is coming to it especially considering that you have punishments for something like "zina". so called islamic feminists like you are usually the worst because you are defending something that does not aid you at all.

 

[Dinaz]

Girl you keep going in a circle. I know what you meant you fool. Trump kulaha. Islamically I shouldn’t even be doing this. Talking with murtad was the first mistake, I never learn.

@Keep it a boqol 💯 @Xoxoxo
@Roorigeg

Al-Ajurri reported: Al-Hasan al-Basri, may Allah have mercy on him, said, “I have never seen a jurist indulge argumentation. The believer does not debate with the foolish, not does he argue. He spreads the wisdom of Allah. If it is accepted, he praises Allah. If it is rejected, he praises Allah.”

Source: Akhlāq al-‘Ulamā’ lil-Ajurrī 1/58

عن الآجري وَعَنِ الْحَسَنِ البصري رحمه الله قَالَ مَا رَأَيْنَا فَقِيهًا يُمَارِي الْمُؤْمِنُ يُدَارِي وَلَا يُمَارِي يَنْشُرُ حِكْمَةَ اللَّهِ فَإِنْ قُبِلَتْ حَمِدَ اللَّهَ وَإِنْ رُدَّتْ حَمِدَ اللَّهَ

1/58 أخلاق العلماء للآجري

that's just plain cope. it's clear as day that fools like yourself turn to quotes to make themselves feel valid. you have no valid arguments other than pretending to be pious and then making random comments about ex muslims. I think you are trying too hard to keep your religion because you know your foundation in Islam is not strong. you are scared of doubting kkkk

 

[Dinaz]

Girl please. Last time when I said I knew you were gaal you were deflecting, look at you now. Loud and proud. May god help you!

you have yet to give any valid argument. shouts from the illiterate religious lady on somalispot kkkk

 

[Xoxoxo]

please provide me proof of any proof that any human has ever lived to 600-1000 years

the thing is that your religion isn't special enough to not be criticized for it's flaws and it's issues. I also never got upset this whole forum constantly abuses ex muslims and other people but ofc you are the victim. a religion like Islam deserves everything that is coming to it

??? I just told you that science basically confirmed that there isn’t an actual human life expectance and anything can happen. I can’t provide proof for you on the internet that showcases this man from this region in this year exceeded living 600 years, that isn’t possible. Human civilisations didnt document stuff like that, if it did do you think science would have had a problem with instituting countless of pharaohs and their origins and ages? No they wouldn’t.

Just because you have people here saying shut about ex-Muslims doesn’t mean all of us are like that? You do realise you’re residing on a forum that low-key used to be an incel forum not that long ago?

I couldn’t care less about ex-Muslims because that isn’t me. I’m me and that ain’t my business or life. I just mind my own business and don’t care what people do in their life. It’s every life for itself.

 

[Qeelbax]

you have yet to give any valid argument. shouts from the illiterate religious lady on somalispot kkkk

Valid argument? Lmaoo You should go back and reread your stuff and lmk why anyone should waste time on you, p.s you’re the one insulting the deen and getting disrespectful. I shall waste no more time with you.

 

[Keep it a boqol]

stop lying to yourself. you think man was made from mud and the quran has so many foolish things that no logical person would actually think is true like men that are over 600 years old and people/animals being turned into grass/straw. you go and ask an imam any question and he will deflect by saying that Allah knows but this works with things that make no logical sense at all. read the quran and it sounded like a fairytale book

Man being made from clay/mud was told in the Quran and aligns with the current science.

Here is the current research

 

[Xoxoxo]

Valid argument? Lmaoo You should go back and reread your stuff and lmk why anyone should waste time on you, p.s you’re the one insulting the deen and getting disrespectful. I shall waste no more time with you.

Man tbh you were right. I’m just perplexed by her at this point because having a conversation with @Mr.Humphrey is way better then this person. She is repeating the same things then she thinks she can spree hate hoping to win this argument lol

 

[Clllam]

please provide me proof of any proof that any human has ever lived to 600-1000 years

the thing is that your religion isn't special enough to not be criticized for it's flaws and it's issues. I also never got upset this whole forum constantly abuses ex muslims and other people but ofc you are the victim. a religion like Islam deserves everything that is coming to it especially considering that you have punishments for something like "zina". so called islamic feminists like you are usually the worst because you are defending something that does not aid you at all.

Of Course! Do you know what children born from fornication have to face? A life without a loving father and a family missing any man to act as an example for his son. Look at what that has done to some members of the Black communities in parts of the Caribbean and America.

Marriage is a global human practice. Fornication and Adultery are morally repulsive and give the worst consequences possible.

 

[KillStreakIsCool]

stop lying to yourself. you think man was made from mud and the quran has so many foolish things that no logical person would actually think is true like men that are over 600 years old and people/animals being turned into grass/straw. you go and ask an imam any question and he will deflect by saying that Allah knows but this works with things that make no logical sense at all. read the quran and it sounded like a fairytale book

Whoever built the amazing universe and made life possible on earth to begin with, can easily give life extensions to mere mortals like humans if he wanted to. Like every engineer who comes up with a devise can modify his craft based on their abilities and knowledge, so does the more powerful omniscient Allah can do what he pleases and as he pleases. Allah states in the Quran that if he wanted to do something, all he had to say is "Be", and the thing becomes.

The more tuned a human being is into the wonderful machinations of the universe, the easier for them to appreciate the power who is behind of it all.

The Allah who initiated the creations, can surely do as he pleases with his creations. He has the knowledge, the power, and abilities beyond human imaginations to do what he wants.

Just think as you look at your reflections in the mirror and ask who granted you the abilities to function as a human being? Have you made yourself? Did you install that soul in your flesh and bones?

 

[KillStreakIsCool]

Just defending the liberal muslim from attack in this thread. No matter what I believe in I can talk about any religion if I wan't, debating about Islam doesn't mean I'm obsessed.

As long as you can support your argument on Islam from Islam itself, then there will be no issues. You also alluded to in another post how Muslims believe the words of the prophet can not be changed. I wonder what you meant by that?

Do you think Muslims believe All Hadeeths are authentic? Cause if that was the case, Muslims would not impose strict rules on Hadeeths and classify them into groups from Authentic, Fabricated, to Weak Hadeeths.

I guess I didn't understand the point you were making with Authentic Hadeeths and the change you mentioned in that post.


Most atheists pretend they have read Islam thoroughly as to come across as legit critics of the religion. I have yet to meet someone who qualifies as educated in Islam and an atheist at the same time. Doesn't take long in debates to find out their knowledge is small, and they copy paste what they read on wiki-islam websites.