Is Puntland ready for "one man, one vote" elections?

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amboli

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I think it's time for Puntland to take the plunge and adopt universal suffrage for their future elections.

Looking at how peaceful the campaigning has been I believe that they're ready for the next step.
 
I think it's time for Puntland to take the plunge and adopt universal suffrage for their future elections.

Looking at how peaceful the campaigning has been I believe that they're ready for the next step.
Puntland is ready but democratic process has been neglected for the past years its time the people demand their rights in the coming years. Our election time is always peaceful, peaceful protests, peaceful parliament that's Puntland people for you, unlike others.
 

amboli

DIR POWER
Puntland is ready but democratic process has been neglected for the past years its time the people demand their rights in the coming years. Our election time is always peaceful, peaceful protests, peaceful parliament that's Puntland people for you, unlike others.
Why has the process been neglected? Is it due to corruption, security or negligence...

To be honest I dont see why OMOV elections can't happen now. Candidates are having public events all over the state with no major issues.
 

Manzana

𐒖 π’šπ’’π’˜π’‚π’—π’† 𐒖𐒒𐒆 π’ˆπ’‚π’‡π’™π’’π’Œ π’π’šπ’’π’‚. PIM.
Puntland isn't ready for it yet. If Punland prematurely implements this, we risk the chance of becoming like Somaliland. They have this and at the same time arrest kids for making fun of the way the president walks! Puntland doesn't need a fake democracy. Anyways, the status quo will remain for the foreseeable future.
 

Abdalla

Medical specialist in diagnosing Majeerteentitis
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I don't see the added value of one man one vote. If the system ain't broken, it doesn't need to be fixed.
 
I think it's time for Puntland to take the plunge and adopt universal suffrage for their future elections.

Looking at how peaceful the campaigning has been I believe that they're ready for the next step.
Maybe next time, this year election process is obviously determined.
 

waraabe

Your superior
Lol puntland is no different than the rest of Somalia. There won’t be any elections only selections. You need to be a mature, forward thinking society to develop democracy. The dha bacyo are mooryan like the rest of them. Don’t let their cheap faan make you think you are any different
 

Thegoodshepherd

Galkacyo iyo Calula dhexdood
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I don't see the added value of one man one vote. If the system ain't broken, it doesn't need to be fixed.

The added value is that it gives a lot of international legitimacy to the state. In a sense, Puntland is semi democratic in that it reflects the will of the majority of residents. But if we were to go for a direct democracy we could have much more political power in our dealings vis a vis the FGS. It would also increase foreign aid to Puntland, probably. The current system also favors the incumbent and encourages corruption. The president has control of a substantial budget and his opponents don’t, which means that he is incentivized to use this advantage. There is also good reason to think that the longer democratization is delayed, the harder it will become to implement in the future.

One of the main reasons I am opposed to the reelection of Gaas is his delaying of one man one vote.
 
The added value is that it gives a lot of international legitimacy to the state. In a sense, Puntland is semi democratic in that it reflects the will of the majority of residents. But if we were to go for a direct democracy we could have much more political power in our dealings vis a vis the FGS. It would also increase foreign aid to Puntland, probably. The current system also favors the incumbent and encourages corruption. The president has control of a substantial budget and his opponents don’t, which means that he is incentivized to use this advantage. There is also good reason to think that the longer democratization is delayed, the harder it will become to implement in the future.

One of the main reasons I am opposed to the reelection of Gaas is his delaying of one man one vote.
Yes exactly this^
 

Abdalla

Medical specialist in diagnosing Majeerteentitis
Prof.Dr.Eng.
VIP
The added value is that it gives a lot of international legitimacy to the state. In a sense, Puntland is semi democratic in that it reflects the will of the majority of residents. But if we were to go for a direct democracy we could have much more political power in our dealings vis a vis the FGS. It would also increase foreign aid to Puntland, probably. The current system also favors the incumbent and encourages corruption. The president has control of a substantial budget and his opponents don’t, which means that he is incentivized to use this advantage. There is also good reason to think that the longer democratization is delayed, the harder it will become to implement in the future.

One of the main reasons I am opposed to the reelection of Gaas is his delaying of one man one vote.

I understand where you come from. My objection is that we are very clan oriented society. The differences between the men running for office is their clan, not policy or ideology. I do not see the point of having 'democratic' elections in a very egalitarian society as ours. It will be a circus show like our western neighbours wherein the candidates will tour the country and ride on donkeys.

Fighting corruption can be done without one man one vote. There are many legitimate governments that do not have democracy. They are taken serious by the IC because they take themselves serious.
 

Thegoodshepherd

Galkacyo iyo Calula dhexdood
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I understand where you come from. My objection is that we are very clan oriented society. The differences between the men running for office is their clan, not policy or ideology. I do not see the point of having 'democratic' elections in a very egalitarian society as ours. It will be a circus show like our western neighbours wherein the candidates will tour the country and ride on donkeys.

Fighting corruption can be done without one man one vote. There are many legitimate governments that do not have democracy. They are taken serious by the IC because they take themselves serious.

I totally disagree with you. If it ever became clear that Puntland explicitly chooses not democratize walahi and I am not joking, I will become a hardcore centralist. Democracy for me comes before Puntland.

If it becomes more likely that the FGS will hold free&fair elections, I will support the FGS.
 

Reer-Bari

COMMANDER OF THE PUNTLAND DEFENCE TEAM
Puntland isn't ready for it yet. If Punland prematurely implements this, we risk the chance of becoming like Somaliland. They have this and at the same time arrest kids for making fun of the way the president walks! Puntland doesn't need a fake democracy. Anyways, the status quo will remain for the foreseeable future.
we don't need a democracy at all
 
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