Is europe declining? Should reer europe consider moving to US?

Why not pretend to be a refugee/migrant like many people do?
You gona struggle bro. You Will basically be doing this for your kids and child birth citizenship is ending soon if crossed illegal. Remember this is Americans home of capitalism, theres no help here. You don’t work you gonna be homeless. You will see so many people here homeless and majority working multiple jobs. Everything is way more bugger and expensive in America. Thsts why I laugh when I hear yall think we rich or something.
 
Bro no one can afford a mortgage. Huge down payment, huge monthly mortgage, huge insurance cost. And on top of that you have to have 3x the income gross, sometimes net.

That's an exaggeration. Plenty of Somalis can afford mortgages, unless you're specifically talking about London. Other UK cities have more affordable housing cost (relatively speaking), even though they've risen quite a bit recently. Heck, even suburbs of other European capitals and larger cities are still attainable for educated Somalis and families with two working adults (including older Somalis).
 
You gona struggle bro. You Will basically be doing this for your kids and child birth citizenship is ending soon if crossed illegal. Remember this is Americans home of capitalism, theres no help here. You don’t work you gonna be homeless. You will see so many people here homeless and majority working multiple jobs. Everything is way more bugger and expensive in America. Thsts why I laugh when I hear yall think we rich or something.
I didn't say I would do it, just a question
 
That's an exaggeration. Plenty of Somalis can afford mortgages, unless you're specifically talking about London. Other UK cities have more affordable housing cost (relatively speaking), even though they've risen quite a bit recently. Heck, even suburbs of other European capitals and larger cities as still attainable for educated Somalis and families with two working adults (including other Somalis).
Im talking America. Who tf is taking mortgage when rates are past 7%. I rarely came across muslim is doubg this let alone somali.
 
Well, if something drastic happens such as the examples you gave, then you'll see large wave of emigrations. Otherwise, they'll probably remain there.

The younger generation of Somalis seem to be doing better than their parents generation who faced more obstacles in terms of integrations and employment opportunities.

As for the ghettos you mentioned; what's 'preventing' them from settling in better neighborhood is the fact that most Somalis avoid taking mortgages for religious reasons. This will most likely be the same if they decide to move elsewhere.
Somali famlies have been offered to buy the houses they lived in for a period of time where I live. They don't even need a stable income to buy as it will be covered by the state bank. Very few have taken that offer. While the pakis, chechnyans and others have accepted. Even after some somali sheikhs made a fatwa(heard it not seen it) on how house ownership is crucial for a muslim and is allowed.

You could also save up to buy with no loans but it'll take more time and you'll pay wealth tax both to the municipality and the state on your savings, that you already paid tax on.

 
Somali famlies have been offered to buy the houses they lived in for a period of time where I live. They don't even need a stable income to buy as it will be covered by the state bank. Very few have taken that offer. While the pakis, chechnyans and others have accepted. Even after some somali sheikhs made a fatwa(heard it not seen it) on how house ownership is crucial for a muslim and is allowed.

You could also save up to buy with no loans but it'll take more time and you'll pay wealth tax both to the municipality and the state on your savings, that you already paid tax on.

Im not familiar with how your country works but Thats seems like heaven compared to here in America. Here you on your own.
 
Im talking America. Who tf is taking mortgage when rates are past 7%.

Your analogy is based on the interest rates of today. Up until a few years ago, the average mortgage interest rates were below 5% for a long time. Any financial savvy person, or at least with a good financial advisor would've taken out mortgages back then and then locked at a fixed rate. Especially when it became clear that it would steadily increase as the fed kept raising the interest rates. In any case, if/when the economy 'recovers', it will eventually dwindle down from the crazy figures we're seeing now.

I rarely came across muslim is doubg this let alone somali.

As I said in my previous post, most Somalis avoid mortgage due to riba. Which is why you won't come across many Somalis taking out mortgages.
 
Somali famlies have been offered to buy the houses they lived in for a period of time where I live. They don't even need a stable income to buy as it will be covered by the state bank. Very few have taken that offer. While the pakis, chechnyans and others have accepted. Even after some somali sheikhs made a fatwa(heard it not seen it) on how house ownership is crucial for a muslim and is allowed.

You could also save up to buy with no loans but it'll take more time and you'll pay wealth tax both to the municipality and the state on your savings, that you already paid tax on.

It's great initiative to be given the opportunity to buy out your social housing. But unfortunately very few countries have this type of system. Hopefully Somalis take advantage and acquire their properties before real estate prices becomes exorbitantly high.
 
Your analogy is based on the interest rates of today. Up until a few years ago, the average mortgage interest rates were below 5% for a long time. Any financial savvy person, or at least with a good financial advisor would've taken out mortgages back then and then locked at a fixed rate. Especially when it became clear that it would steadily increase as the fed kept raising the interest rates. In any case, if/when the economy 'recovers', it will eventually dwindle down from the crazy figures we're seeing.



As I said in my previous post, most Somalis avoid mortgage due to riba. Which is why you won't come across many Somalis taking out mortgages.
Intrest rates are still historically low and from the looks of things. Mortgage rates are not coming down ever. Demand for homes is still there and many people are still purchasing.

Look, Im not tryna scare yall or gate keep. Im just tryna give you guys an idea that it kind if sucks compared to europe. In Europe the muslim communities are so strong unlike here. Everyone is separated and you have to drive or fly hours to visit family or go to other city or states.
 
As an example of how boring it dead the muslim community is. You remember how Abu taymiyah shut down america when he came. Thats how bad it is here. Everyone is separated and distant.
 
Intrest rates are still historically low and from the looks of things. Mortgage rates are not coming down ever. Demand for homes is still there and many people are still purchasing.

Mortgage rates will definitely come down when the inflation reaches the fed's target rates. The bigger issue I'm forecasting is rising real estate prices that will make it out of reach for the average middle class person, or even families with double income.

Look, Im not tryna scare yall or gate keep. Im just tryna give you guys an idea that it kind if sucks compared to europe. In Europe the muslim communities are so strong unlike here. Everyone is separated and you have to drive or fly hours to visit family or go to other city or states.

True. But some may opt for higher wages while other prefer a tight-knit Muslim community or whatever factor it may be. It all boils down to but what each person value and prioritize.
 
Mortgage rates will definitely come down when the inflation reaches the fed's target rates. The bigger issue I'm forecasting is rising real estate prices that will make it out of reach for the average middle class person, or even families with double income.



True. But some may opt for higher wages while other prefer a tight-knit Muslim community or whatever factor it may be. It all boils down to but what each person value and prioritize.
What higher wages ?! Do y’all think we swim in cash. We have more bills to pay and higher cost pf living.
 
Most of Europe's problems are their own fault, so who are they gonna blame?

The people are largely united however the politicians don't listen to what they want and shut them down with ''You're a racist/nazi!''. This is why the Left is losing. They've chosen immigration as the hill they're willing to die on. All the Right Wing parties across Europe would immediately lose 90% of their support if Left Wing Parties were strict on immigration. They're shooting themselves in the foot for literally no reason.
 
I remember France recently wanting to crack down on illegal immigration and then all of the illegal immigrants protested against it
They were proving exactly why the bill was needed lmao.

Anyway Europe is the only place that is weak on immigration, most non-european countries will deport and get rid of the illegals and are much harsher, including Japan.

Is this what Europe has become?
 
The racism in Europe is getting more intense. I believe another Hitler will probably rise in 10-20 years. I don’t know why Somalis are so comfortable setting in Europe. These Europeans accepted us in hopes that somalia will one day be stable and we would go back. This isn’t our permanent home. Either most Somalis are going to be mass deported or killed in the future in Europe because these cadaans are not going to see their nations become nonwhite
 

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