Is anyone else angry Somali history before colonization is not well known?

[HabarSteven12]

Al umari obviously meant a local language by "لغة الحبشة" as a language called Abyssinian don't exist while a region called Abyssinian *which according to al umari somali inhabited lands were part of it* existed so he went calling the local language by it's region name
Just like how ibn battuta named the language spoken in mogadishu *which was obviously somali* maqdishi the name of the city.

Arab faqiqh says

Al umari obviously meant a local language by "لغة الحبشة" as a language called Abyssinian don't exist while a region called Abyssinian *which according to al umari somali inhabited lands were part of it* existed so he went calling the local language by it's region name
Just like how ibn battuta named the language spoken in mogadishu *which was obviously somali* maqdishi the name of the city.

The local language was of semetic origin. He said the inhabitants both spoke Arabic and Abyssinian. Arab Faqihs goes into detail about the origins of that Abyssinian language spoken in Adal, described by Al Umari. He states "Ethio-Semitic speakers formed the dominant section of the Adal population. Somalis primarily lived in the interior hinterland and Abyssinia didn't have any influence in those areas. No mention of the Somali or even the language possibly being of Cushitic origin.

 

[tyrannicalmanager]

Your refutation actually supports my original point lol. The walls were brought down by the Italians, which allowed the influx of Somali nomads to enter the city. Before the walls were brought down, the Italian colonial regime collected the population of Mogadishu. They researched and studied the clan structure. They managed to record people based on their clans and identity. The documents show Benadiri was the majority.

Scholar Scott doesn't allude to benadiri being ethnic Somalis. Stop misconstruing his statements. When he said the "Urban Somalis", he meant the urban population of modern day Italian Somalia. No mention of any urban Somali qabil inhabiting the benadir coast before the Europeans collated the population of Mogadishu. I don't Carr about Said barre. You marehans can claim him

>shows me a blurry Italian document showing Tunni are a majority in Baraawe

 

[Shaafici Mujaahid]

Liar Liar pants on fire. Umari did visit the region. Don't deny it . Don't lie about the great Arabic Scholar.

Panicking xabashi probably gets paid by the Ethiopian government

 

[Shaafici Mujaahid]

Arab faqiqh says
The local language was of semetic origin. He said the inhabitants both spoke Arabic and Abyssinian. Arab Faqihs goes into detail about the origins of that Abyssinian language spoken in Adal, described by Al Umari. He states "Ethio-Semitic speakers formed the dominant section of the Adal population. Somalis primarily lived in the interior hinterland and Abyssinia didn't have any influence in those areas. No mention of the Somali or even the language possibly being of Cushitic origin.

Again pulling another fake quote out of your gay Habesh ass. There is no mention of Ethio-semitc in the futuh. Also the Absyinans are seen as separate from the Muslims. The words used for river such as Webi is evidence that we never spoke your filth nor did the elites of Adal. Go cry in your highlands trying to beg your conquers.

 

[tyrannicalmanager]

Panicking xabashi probably gets paid by the Ethiopian government

He's getting manhandled by Arabic speakers and all he can do is repeatedly quote an Oromo scholar from Addis Ababa, misquoting Arabic historians

 

[Somali_patriotic]

The local language was of semetic origin. He said the inhabitants both spoke Arabic and Abyssinian. Arab Faqihs goes into detail about the origins of that Abyssinian language spoken in Adal, described by Al Umari. He states "Ethio-Semitic speakers formed the dominant section of the Adal population. Somalis primarily lived in the interior hinterland and Abyssinia didn't have any influence in those areas. No mention of the Somali or even the language possibly being of Cushitic origin.

Arab fiqh book Futuh al habesha is available online
I dare you to point it out where he mentions "ethio-semitic speakers and shieet"
Nga y'all brag about Harla who were actually non-significant compared to somalis and actually are yet to be proven whether they spoke a cushitic language or a semitic one
That assumption is wild
What are you smoking bruv this is insane

 

[Shaafici Mujaahid]

Arab fiqh book Futuh al habesha is available online
I dare you to point it out where he mentions "ethio-semitic speakers and shieet"
Nga y'all brag about Harla who were actually non-significant compared to somalis and actually are yet to be proven whether they spoke a cushitic language or a semitic one
That assumption is wild
What are you smoking bruv this is insane View attachment 289403

The same harla that he begs include Somalis even according to the futuh.

 

[HabarSteven12]

>shows me a blurry Italian document showing Tunni are a majority in Baraawe
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There is a difference between urban Tunnis who are Bravanese [Rer Brava or Barawani] and rural Tunnis who are not Bravanese" (Associate Professor 26 Nov. 2014). The Independent Researcher indicated that urban Tunni, who live mainly in Brava, speak Bravanese Chimini, and "share the same cultural traits and occupations as the inhabitants of the urban towns of the southern coast of Somalia, such as Brava". Stop making excuses. You just can't believe Benadiri were the majority.

 

[Shaafici Mujaahid]

There is a difference between urban Tunnis who are Bravanese [Rer Brava or Barawani] and rural Tunnis who are not Bravanese" (Associate Professor 26 Nov. 2014). The Independent Researcher indicated that urban Tunni, who live mainly in Brava, speak Bravanese Chimini, and "share the same cultural traits and occupations as the inhabitants of the urban towns of the southern coast of Somalia, such as Brava". Stop making excuses. You just can't believe Benadiri were the majority.

Benadiri don’t give a shit about a stinky Habesh at the end of the day.

 

[ibrahym]

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There is a difference between urban Tunnis who are Bravanese [Rer Brava or Barawani] and rural Tunnis who are not Bravanese" (Associate Professor 26 Nov. 2014). The Independent Researcher indicated that urban Tunni, who live mainly in Brava, speak Bravanese Chimini, and "share the same cultural traits and occupations as the inhabitants of the urban towns of the southern coast of Somalia, such as Brava". Stop making excuses. You just can't believe Benadiri were the majority.

"It says that barawe was established in 900 ad. The first one who arrived at barawe in ancient times a man from garre ibn samaale and his name is aw ali and barawe was a land full of forest and trees and home of the lion so much so that there were no 20 cubits area empty of trees on edge of the coast, while on the edge of the beach there were tribes living with their cattle's."

 

[ibrahym]

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"It says that barawe was established in 900 ad. The first one who arrived at barawe in ancient times a man from garre ibn samaale and his name is aw ali and barawe was a land full of forest and trees and home of the lion so much so that there were no 20 cubits area empty of trees on edge of the coast, while on the edge of the beach there were tribes living with their cattle's."

Source: Sharif Aydarus

 

[Khaem]

Benadiri don’t give a shit about a stinky Habesh at the end of the day.

No one knows what this guy is. There are many theories. Either a Habash. Some minority like benadiri or some Xalimo who got her heart broken by an Abdi always calling us incels.
@HabarSteven12 and their kind are a great mystery of science. Their jealousy of the Somali whom he prefers to call Samaale for whatever reason is belongs in a case file.

 

[Somali_patriotic]

There is a difference between urban Tunnis who are Bravanese [Rer Brava or Barawani] and rural Tunnis who are not Bravanese" (Associate Professor 26 Nov. 2014). The Independent Researcher indicated that urban Tunni, who live mainly in Brava, speak Bravanese Chimini, and "share the same cultural traits and occupations as the inhabitants of the urban towns of the southern coast of Somalia, such as Brava". Stop making excuses. You just can't believe Benadiri were the majority.

Benadiris were the majority in their lands you're right
But what you fail to understand is majority of benadiris are ethnic somalis

 

[ibrahym]

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"It says that barawe was established in 900 ad. The first one who arrived at barawe in ancient times a man from garre ibn samaale and his name is aw ali and barawe was a land full of forest and trees and home of the lion so much so that there were no 20 cubits area empty of trees on edge of the coast, while on the edge of the beach there were tribes living with their cattle's."

@HabarSteven12 Tell me why do you put a "dead" emoji? Do you want to lie? Sharif Aydarus. Banadri historian

 

[Somali_patriotic]

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"It says that barawe was established in 900 ad. The first one who arrived at barawe in ancient times a man from garre ibn samaale and his name is aw ali and barawe was a land full of forest and trees and home of the lion so much so that there were no 20 cubits area empty of trees on edge of the coast, while on the edge of the beach there were tribes living with their cattle's."

Barawa is even named after him
If i recall correctly the etymology of barawa
Is Bar aw ali: meaning the space of aw ali

 

[Somali_patriotic]

The same harla that he begs include Somalis even according to the futuh.View attachment 289404

Harla might have been a confederacy of various tribes
When some of them were asked what's their lineage
They traced it back to harti darood

 

[HabarSteven12]

@HabarSteven12 Tell me why do you put a "dead" emoji? Do you want to lie? Sharif Aydarus. Banadri historian

You never read Sharif aidarus book. I literally used his source to debunk you guys. You are one big liar. He speaks about how Arabs had a presence in Mogadishu and the coastal settlements since antiquity.

 

[ibrahym]

Barawa is even named after him
I recall correctly the etymology of barawa
Is Bar aw ali: meaning the space of aw ali

You never read Sharif aidarus book. I literally used his source to debunk you guys. You are one big liar. He speaks about how Arabs had a presence in Mogadishu and the coastal settlements since antiquity.

Who said I didn't? That's a whole page from a his book "بغية الامال في تاريخ الصومال "

 

[Shaafici Mujaahid]

You never read Sharif aidarus book. I literally used his source to debunk you guys. You are one big liar. He speaks about how Arabs had a presence in Mogadishu and the coastal settlements since antiquity.

I guess you read your own version of books like you have different versions of bibles

 

[Shaafici Mujaahid]

Who said I didn't? That's a whole page from a his book "بغية الامال في تاريخ الصومال "View attachment 289411

This habesh has a karbaash fetish.