Ilhan Omar voted against the debt relief for Somalia

she's not a representative of somalia sxb, she represents Minnesota. A one off bill I can understand but as a joint bill grouped with all these troubling measures that are against what her voters would want her to pass means she can't sign off on it, these bills aint a one off its like with the trump administration saying they want a daca deal tied with border wall funding, if democrats don't sign it docent mean their anti daca they're just against the border wall funding tied to the bill
All of mn representative voted yes except Tom emmers (st cloud) and her even her party voted majority yes both parties did.
 
those are centrist or republican districts
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2019/roll690.xml
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Representatives_from_Minnesota
You can cross reference using find in page tool last names
Of the 6 yes 4 are democrat 2 are Republican
2/3 of the somali inhabited district voted no district 4 voted yes:ftw9nwa:
@Tukraq did you know this female went around town spreading rumors about a guy from her sub clan running against her she'll do anything she went around town claiming he was a downlow which lost him Somali votes it happened in 2014:ftw9nwa:
 
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AdoonkaAlle

Ragna qowl baa xira, dumarna meher baa xira.
Is it just me that finds it quite odd that the debt package was included in a national security bill ? is this the norm for all aid packages that usa secures for other countries mise waa just for a select group of countries ? @Starscream what do you reckon ?

I've also looked at how the other members of "the squad" voted on the bill

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez : YES

Ayanna Soyini Pressley : NO

Rashida Harbi Tlaib : Abstained


Link to HR 1158 voting result : https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/116-2019/h690

Whatever her reasons were there's definitely something peculiar with the nature of this debt package and it's inclusion in a national security bill

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If only Rashida went hard for Somalis the way Ilhan does. :duck:

The only reason Ilhan is cosying up to the Somali community is because white Americans hate her :russ::pachah1:
 
Is it just me that finds it quite odd that the debt package was included in a national security bill ? is this the norm for all aid packages that usa secures for other countries mise waa just for a select group of countries ? @Starscream what do you reckon ?

I've also looked at how the other members of "the squad" voted on the bill

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez : YES

Ayanna Soyini Pressley : NO

Rashida Harbi Tlaib : Abstained


Link to HR 1158 voting result : https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/116-2019/h690

Whatever her reasons were there's definitely something peculiar with the nature of this debt package and it's inclusion in a national security bill

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Idk if they do it alot but is divide and conquer they added so she had to choose between looking like hypocrite or sticking to her words.
She failed the Somali community we'll hear of this through there media she already pissed of sections for being this will only add fuel.
Despite how she talks she done nothing for the state forget somalis in the state.
 
Idk if they do it alot but is divide and conquer they added so she had to choose between looking like hypocrite or sticking to her words.
She failed the Somali community we'll hear of this through there media she already pissed of sections for being ***** this will only add fuel.
Despite how she talks she done nothing for the state forget somalis in the state.
:2tjlv3e::2tjlv3e::2tjlv3e::2tjlv3e:
 

AdoonkaAlle

Ragna qowl baa xira, dumarna meher baa xira.
Idk if they do it alot but is divide and conquer they added so she had to choose between looking like hypocrite or sticking to her words.
She failed the Somali community we'll hear of this through there media she already pissed of sections for being ***** this will only add fuel.
Despite how she talks she done nothing for the state forget somalis in the state.

waan gartay wale modern day siyaasad waa nothing but dirty business. From advocating for qomulut, trying to sanction brunei over it's anti-homosexuality stance, and finally voting against the debt package despite praising it, waa yaab ruunti. Such transformation in such a short time , what will it take for bulshada soomaliyeed in the usa to hold her to account for having such views. Has anyone spoken out against her mise ?
 
Is it just me that finds it quite odd that the debt package was included in a national security bill ? is this the norm for all aid packages that usa secures for other countries mise waa just for a select group of countries ? @Starscream what do you reckon ?

I've also looked at how the other members of "the squad" voted on the bill

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez : YES

Ayanna Soyini Pressley : NO

Rashida Harbi Tlaib : Abstained


Link to HR 1158 voting result : https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/116-2019/h690

Whatever her reasons were there's definitely something peculiar with the nature of this debt package and it's inclusion in a national security bill

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I've been told that she played a role in adding the 'rider' clause on to this bill, the rider being the Somalia debt relief provision. She must've knew it would pass so she voted along party lines to please her constituents.

"In legislative procedure, a rider is an additional provision added to a bill or other measure under the consideration by a legislature, having little connection with the subject matter of the bill. Riders are usually created as a tactic to pass a controversial provision that would not pass as its own bill."
 

AdoonkaAlle

Ragna qowl baa xira, dumarna meher baa xira.
I've been told that she played a role in adding the 'rider' clause on to this bill, the rider being the Somalia debt relief provision. She must've knew it would pass so she voted along party lines to please her constituents.

"In legislative procedure, a rider is an additional provision added to a bill or other measure under the consideration by a legislature, having little connection with the subject matter of the bill. Riders are usually created as a tactic to pass a controversial provision that would not pass as its own bill."

What you're suggesting doesn't make sense for the following reasons

1) Those who opposed the bill from the democrat party were in the minority (75 no vs 150 yes) , furthermore it was only ilhan who voted no among the democrat reps from Minnesota. So clearly the argument that she voted along party lines falls apart. Correct me if i'm wrong but voters don't have a say only the reps do, was there any elections held in the 5th district so determine the views of the voters regarding the aforementioned bill ?

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2) The sole purpose for including the rider clause was to pass it why then vote against it ? i mean why bother to include such a clause when you're going to vote against it? it's quite contradictory wouldn't you agree
 

AdoonkaAlle

Ragna qowl baa xira, dumarna meher baa xira.
waan gartay wale modern day siyaasad waa nothing but dirty business. From advocating for qomulut, trying to sanction brunei over it's anti-homosexuality stance, and finally voting against the debt package despite praising it, waa yaab ruunti. Such transformation in such a short time , what will it take for bulshada soomaliyeed in the usa to hold her to account for having such views. Has anyone spoken out against her mise ?
Unfortunately nothing unless the whites want to replace her. what you need to understand is unless another Democrat runs against her she won't lose the republicans in that district are weak.
She barely won the Democrat race she only got 20-30% white votes the general election vs Republicans that people point to was worthless any democrat was gonna win by 70-80%.
She got to this place on the backs of minorities mainly blacks including somalis. She has no incentive to try anything now idk if another democrat can even challenge for her seat ironically her district has jewish population we'll see how this goes:lolbron:
 

AdoonkaAlle

Ragna qowl baa xira, dumarna meher baa xira.
Unfortunately nothing unless the whites want to replace her. what you need to understand is unless another Democrat runs against her she won't lose the republicans in that district are weak.
She barely won the Democrat race she only got 20-30% white votes the general election vs Republicans that people point to was worthless any democrat was gonna win by 70-80%.
She got to this place on the backs of minorities mainly blacks including somalis. She has no incentive to try anything now idk if another democrat can even challenge for her seat ironically her district has jewish population we'll see how this goes:lolbron:

Good luck reer MN :samwelcome::samwelcome:
 
What you're suggesting doesn't make sense for the following reasons

1) Those who opposed the bill from the democrat party were in the minority (75 no vs 150 yes) , furthermore it was only ilhan who voted no among the democrat reps from Minnesota. So clearly the argument that she voted along party lines falls apart. Correct me if i'm wrong but voters don't have a say only the reps do, was there any elections held in the 5th district so determine the views of the voters regarding the aforementioned bill ?

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2) The sole purpose for including the rider clause was to pass it why then vote against it ? i mean why bother to include such a clause when you're going to vote against it? it's quite contradictory wouldn't you agree
Perhaps "voting along party lines" was the wrong use of words, since the Democratic party is split within itself amongst differing factions such as centrist, center-left, and far left(Progressive); the latter being Ilhan Omar's base and the bulk of her primary constituents that directly control her fate in the district she represents(white, progressive, educated). She voted naye on principal as many of the provisions within this wider bill go against everything she stands for.

The legislative process is more complex than your simplistic reasoning saxiib. All kinds of bills are lumped together and passed, this minibus bill being a perfect example. The major component of the final bill is the Federal government's year-end spending package that was widely expected to be passed to avert a government shutdown, alongside a slew of other bills concerning defense, commerce, etc.

There was news of the debt relief for Somalia being in jeopardy and the US ambassador to Somalia resigning as a result of him being unable to push through this policy through, the debt relief provision was nearly left out of this bill itself due to a bureaucratic blunder by the state department. If she did in fact play a role inserting this provision as a rider into this bill, she deserves to get credit for it. It's a win-win for her, satisfying her progressive base and adding a positive clause on to a bill that is expected to pass with bipartisan support to help her fellow Somalis. This is real politicking my friend.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/12/1...ess-development-diplomacy-aid-world-bank-imf/
 
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