If your wife goes to university, you are a CUCKOLD...Apparently

[McLovin]

It may have been even stranger hearing him say, "Think about it. THINK ABOUT IT!" "Be Rational" "Common Sense" "Logical"

And the laughs when he called educated women "shaytana". I was hoping they were laughing at him but im afraid that wasn't what's goin on

What a strange bubble they live in

 

[Asma]

It always the men who don't want their wives seeing male doctors/dentist and their daughters being taught by male teachers who don't want their female relatives to go to university. If Muslim women do not go to university then how will they ask for a woman doctor for the wife?

 

[ChickenOriental]

I think he objects to free-mixing between genders more so than the education of women. There is nothing wrong with a woman attending a university to educate herself. Calling them 'shaytaana' was uncalled for, though - these are Muslim women he is degrading.

 

[Asma]

I think he objects to free-mixing between genders more so than the education of women. There is nothing wrong with a woman attending a university to educate herself. Calling them 'shaytaana' was uncalled for, though - these are Muslim women he is degrading.

Later on the talk he also said those Muslim women have become apostates.

 

[sinister]

I think he objects to free-mixing between genders more so than the education of women. There is nothing wrong with a woman attending a university to educate herself. Calling them 'shaytaana' was uncalled for, though - these are Muslim women he is degrading.

What are the chances that he thinks everybody who doesn't think exactly like him is not Muslim?

 

[sinister]

Later on the talk he also said those Muslim women have become apostates.

Knew it.

 

[Hafez]

I'll let you sleep on it.

 

[sinister]

I'll let you sleep on it.

"Think about it. THINK ABOUT IT!"

 

[ChickenOriental]

Later on the talk he also said those Muslim women have become apostates.

This is where wording is very important because making takfir is a serious thing. Did he say "some women have apostated following going to university" or did he say "they have gone to university and have therefore apostated"? The former is a fact, the latter is pure slander.

What are the chances that he thinks everybody who doesn't think exactly like him is not Muslim?

Don't jump to conclusions. He may have strong views but there is no need to imply he is takfiri when you have provided no evidence.

 

[Hafez]

Its also very ironic because Salafis are always saying not to use common sense when it comes to the deen and to only follow what the scholars have agreed upon on.

Not necessarily. They do not encourage blind-following at all. In fact, they (Salafis) are ardent opponents of taqliid lol. They only encourage blind-following (for the layman) when it comes to topics that are beyond the level of understanding of the layman. Once the person has attained the level of scholarship whereby he's able to analyse the different opinions, or even interpret the Qur'an and Sunnah directly, he may do so.

So do you agree with what the man said?

Tbh, it's not that simple. I can see where he's coming from but I think he's going a little overboard. There are sisters at Universities who barely (if ever) interact with the opposite sex. However, not ALL women have this level of self-control and ability to avoid conforming to peer-pressure.

It depends on the woman in question and whether she has alternatives (i.e. if she could enrol and study her chosen course at an all-girls institute).

 

[Asma]

This is where wording is very important because making takfir is a serious thing. Did he say "some women have apostated following going to university" or did he say "they have gone to university and have therefore apostated"? The former is a fact, the latter is pure slander.



Don't jump to conclusions. He may have strong views but there is no need to imply he is takfiri when you have provided no evidence.

 

[Asma]

Not necessarily. They do not encourage blind-following at all. In fact, they (Salafis) are ardent opponents of taqliid lol. They only encourage blind-following (for the layman) when it comes to topics that are beyond the level of understanding of the layman. Once the person has attained the level of scholarship whereby he's able to analyse the different opinions, or even interpret the Qur'an and Sunnah directly, he may do so.


Tbh, it's not that simple. I can see where he's coming from but I think he's going a little overboard. There are sisters at Universities who barely (if ever) interact with the opposite sex. However, not ALL women have this level of self-control and ability to avoid conforming to peer-pressure.

It depends on the woman in question and whether she has alternatives (i.e. if she could enrol at an all-girls institute).

I know salafis are totally against the blind following of one scholar, one madhab. That is why I said they follow what is agreed upon by most of the scolars by consensus, the second part I left out is the scholars agree upon by studying the daleel in the deen.

To you second point, ultimately is up to the woman to decide what type of institution she wants to attend.

 

[ChickenOriental]

He said: "many sisters have apostated because of this issue [i.e. going to university]" - this is something true.

He also said that Scholars have allowed Muslim women to go to universities that are for women-only.

Wallahi, people on this forum need to put their prejudices aside and have a basic level of justice when they are evaluating these situations. Smh.

 

[Asma]

He said: "many sister have apostated because of this issue [i.e. going to university]" - this is something true.

He also said that Scholars have allowed Muslim women to go to universities that are for women-only.

Wallahi, people on this forum need to put their prejudices aside and have a basic level of justice when they are evaluating these situations. Smh.

What does that mean though? That sisters who go to university with men are apostates . Or does he mean that sisters that don't agree that going to university with men is wrong are apostates? Either way both points are wrong those things don't qualify as someone becoming a apostate.

 

[ChickenOriental]

What does that mean though? That sisters who go to university with men are apostates . Or does he mean that sisters that don't agree that going to university with men is wrong are apostates? Either way both points are wrong those things don't qualify as someone becoming a apostate.

No, sister it means what he said: "many sisters have apostated because of this issue [i.e. going to university]" - he spoke briefly about an innovated Women's Lib sect that were made up of Muslim women and causing them to do unislamic things and veer away from the religion. Given the context, you can see clearly he is saying that going to university exposes Muslim women to these things and has caused some to apostate.

If he said "if you go to university you have apostated" - he would be making mass takfir and giving a fatwa with no evidence since freemixing does not make you an apostate. He very clearly was not saying that.

 

[Asma]

No, sister it means what he said: "many sisters have apostated because of this issue [i.e. going to university]" - he spoke briefly about an innovated Women's Lib sect that were made up of Muslim women and causing them to do unislamic things and veer away from the religion. Given the context, you can see clearly he is saying that going to university exposes Muslim women to these things and has caused some to apostate.

If he said "if you go to university you have apostated" - he would be making mass takfir and giving a fatwa with no evidence since freemixing does not make you an apostate. He very clearly was not saying that.

Well, it wasn't very clear at all the way he said it. The way you said it is more clearer. However the vast majority of Muslim women who go to uni are only going to study not look at some man's earring. Also Muslim women are not children who need constant guidance they can think for themselves.

 

[McLovin]

You know something is wrong with your religion when it fears education

 

[ChickenOriental]

Well, it wasn't very clear at all the way he said it. The way you said it is more clearer. However the vast majority of Muslim women who go to uni are only going to study not look at some man's earring. Also Muslim women are not children who need constant guidance they can think for themselves.

You're right, sister, he wasn't very clear but tbf this is a 7 min clip from a - I presume - longer lecture. I believe sisters are not looking for men when they go to uni but even the most strong-willed sister can fall into problems.

I'm at uni now and I don't think I would have been able to survive unless my campus had an unusually unbalanced ratio of women to men. I think the uni caught onto this and have corrected the imbalance recently - now there are more men. Young, attractive, educated men. And I am very glad this is my final year and I barely have to come in. University, any which way you look at it, is a fitnah when there is free-mixing every day. People will catch feelings and do things they might never have done when they were at school.

The newfound freedom and independence that adulthood brings coupled with mixing with the opposite gender can be a dangerous mix.

 

[Bahal]

Duyooth is translated as "cuckold" in english.

‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Amr said: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘There are three who will not enter Paradise and Allaah will not even look at them on the Day of Resurrection: one who disobeys his parents, a woman who imitates men, and the duyooth (cuckold, weak man who feels no jealousy over his womenfolk).”

Pretty sure this is where the name "dayuus" comes from in Somali - Somalis been calling each other cucks since day.

Ahahahahahahahhahahahaha

 

[Canuck]

The Importance of Girls' Education in Islam
by Farah Onaid
Women and girls have been victims of ruthless power struggles for centuries in all societies and cultures around the world. This hegemony over women has been exercised in the form of Sati, Hitobashira, Karo-Kari and the killing of witches, which are only a few to mention. Sadly, but truly, many societies including some Muslim societies continue to exercise this patriarchy in different forms such as the denial to education, unequal salaries compared to men in workplaces, forced marriages and prostitution, among many others.

Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him (pbuh), came at a time when the Arab society, like so many patriarchal societies at that time, was rife with abhorrent practices against girls. He preached Islam, liberating women and girls in every walk of life, education being a prime aspect. This article examines the facts about the importance of female education in Islam. It does so through referencing verses of the Quran, Islam’s holy book, and hadith, authentic traditions of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh), along with offering a short glimpse of his wives’ level of education.

Let us start with the first Quranic revelation:

Read in the name of your Lord who created, created man from a clinging form. Read! Your Lord is the Most Generous, who taught by means of the pen; taught man what he did not know. (96:1-5)

These verses address humankind to seek knowledge and delve in critical thinking. The emphasis laid in the acquisition of knowledge, in the above verses, surpasses any statement or action denying girls’ the right to education. Had these verses only been for men, it would be inconceivable to imagine the extent of progression that the society made in a mere twenty-three years — the entire duration of the revelation of the Quran.

In another verse in the Quran, God says:

(This is) a Book (the Quran) which We have sent down to you, full of blessings that they may ponder over its Verses, and that men of understanding may remember. (38:29)

It is important to mention that the word “men” in the above verse refers to humankind as it does so in several other places in the Quran when God addresses humanity. These and other verses inform the readers that engaging in critical thinking is a moral obligation on both men and women. The Quran repetitively reminds people to ponder, think, analyze, thus using their mind power to contemplate and understand, whilst making no distinction between men and women.

Let us now examine some hadith, authentic sayings of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).

“Seeking knowledge is mandatory for every Muslim.”

“He who has a slave-girl and teaches her good manners and improves her education and then manumits and marries her, will get a double reward; and any slave who observes God’s right and his master’s right will get a double reward.” (emphasis added)

“If anyone travels on a road in search of knowledge, Allah will cause him to travel on one of the roads of Paradise. The angels will lower their wings in their great pleasure with one who seeks knowledge, the inhabitants of the heavens and the Earth and the fish in the deep waters will ask forgiveness for the learned man. The superiority of the learned man over the devout is like that of the moon, on the night when it is full, over the rest of the stars. The learned are the heirs of the Prophets, and the Prophets leave neither dinar nor dirham, leaving onlyknowledge, and he who takes it takes an abundant portion.” (emphasis added)

Three important themes around education are emerging in the above traditions. From the first Hadith we infer that education is not a right but a responsibility on every Muslim, male or female. In the second Hadith, emphasis is laid on the quality of education imparted to the girl slave and the latter part deals with the encouragement to free slaves (Islam denounced and later abolished slavery). The third Hadith speaks volumes about the superiority of the person who seeks knowledge over the one who does not. The reference here to superiority is to the person who seeks knowledge, man or woman.

We shall now examine information about the intellectual abilities of two wives of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh): Khadijah and Aishah.

• Khadijah Binte Khuwaylid, the first wife of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh), was a wealthy tradeswoman, the richest woman in Mecca at the time, who exported goods as far away as Syria. To manage her large business, she employed several males and to do so then in Arabia, necessitated that you have a high level of understanding and wisdom.
• Aishah Binte Abu Bakr, the youngest wife of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh), was very talented and possessed an incredible memory. As a Muslim scholar, she is credited with narrating more than two thousand Hadith and was noted for teaching eminent scholars. She had a great love for learning and became known for her intelligence and sharp sense of judgment. Her life also substantiates that a woman can be a scholar, exert influence over men and women and provide them with inspiration and leadership. The example of Aishah in promoting education, particularly education of women in the laws and teachings of Islam, is a hallmark in female education in Islam. Because of the strength of her personality, she was a leader in every field of knowledge, in society and in politics.

Conclusively, the take away message in the article is that Islam promotes education, particularly girls’ education. Had it not been so, the world would not have witnessed the transformation of a society plunged in anarchy and hegemony into one enlightened with critical thinkers and scholars, all in the span of twenty-three years.