If Ethiopia were to collapse, how would it affect Somalis as a whole

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Why do you genuinely need Harar if you have a lot of land too? We already live here for generations, you can just kick us out here. That's like kicking out the Arabs from Morocco or the Saxons in Great Britian.
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There are no Somalis that live in Harar, and if there are, they are a very small minority. Its clear you are claming Harar because you have an expansionist ideology and not because you care for Hararis. You wanna incorporate Harar into Greater Somalia and even if that happened, the Hararis would still be a massive minority.
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We have lost lands in Wollo (current Amhara region) and Raya (current Tigray region) and we have made dynasties in these lands (even Wollo and Raya are Afaan Oromo names) but now, most or all of the Oromos are assimulated by Amharas and Tigrayans. You don't see us trying to kick out Amharas and Tigrayans from Wollo and Raya. That was generations ago, now they are living peacefully in that land such as we Oromos are in Harar. Don't be stubborn.
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Hell, no we aren't going to let some Oromo spout nonsense. :westbrookwtf:
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I hate the militias that are killing and displacing Somalis in Galbeed but why the hate towards ordinary Oromos? Arenโ€™t a lot of them just miskiin people trying to survive?

I donโ€™t know much about the ordinary people, all I read about are their militias and the government

Same with the Afar, idk much about them besides their militias and what they do to Somalis
 

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Somalis are 2% of the population, none of us are speaking that language lmao.
This isnโ€™t really true, Somalis there only really speak the langauge if you check their dna theyโ€™re mostly just assimilated Somalis on the frontier. Harar has always been Somali before the barbarian Oromos came in
 
This isnโ€™t really true, Somalis there only really speak the langauge if you check their dna theyโ€™re mostly just assimilated Somalis on the frontier. Harar has always been Somali before the barbarian Oromos came in
This is very true. Most Oromos in Harar are NOT assimulated Somalis, that is your way of coping. Assimulation is not only taking up culture and language but genetics as well. Admixture plays a role in it. Why call me a Barbarian lol did I hit a nerve?
 

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This is very true. Most Oromos in Harar are NOT assimulated Somalis, that is your way of coping.
There is no need for me to cope, this is well known. They only speak Oromo but their culture and genetics are Somali.
Assimulation is not only taking up culture and language but genetics as well. Admixture plays a role in it.
Iโ€™m not denying that Somalis in Hararghe have Oromo admixture compared to others in Somaliweyn but that still doesnโ€™t mean they arenโ€™t Somali.
 
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You did not make Harar. Harar was built by Hararis. There may have been some mixed Somalis/Afars/Argobba Adalites but Adal and Harar is mainly focused on the Harari ethnic group, hence called Harar.

And not every age of colonization ends, especially if you settle in the lands such as the United States, the Cape in South Africa, the Greeks who live in Egypt, the Jews who live in Europe, so on and so forth. You can't just kick these innocent people out.
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Oromos that live in Harar are not assimulated.. clearly you have no idea what settle means. Are United States citizens assimulated Native Americans? Are the Dutch in South Africa assimulated Bantu? Stop justifying your stupid claims to justify your hate for Oromos.

Harar never belonged to Somalia, it has always belonged to Hararis. You know whats absolutely halarious that you probably have no idea of? Most Hararis claim Habesha and they are some of the Ethiopianist ethnic groups in our country. Obviously you wouldn't know that because one you have never met an Harari and second you have never been to Harar because you wouldn't know that ALL ethnic groups co-exist peacefully in the city.

"Wallahi you don't know the hate I have for you Oromos" kaffir behavior. How could you call yourself a Muslim ๐Ÿ’€ seriously lol.
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Clearly, you have do not know ANYTHING about Oromo people and their history. We have not ruled anyone? Who is ruling the country right now? Which ethnic group is most contributed within the current ruling party? Not only are we ruling Ethiopia right now, we ruled Ethiopia for over 200 years during the Zemene Mesafint, replacing Ethiopian Solomonic monarchies and properly teaching Abyssinians how to fight. So I have no idea what you are talking about. In fact, isn't it Ogaden that always gets run over?

I have never compared Oromos to Somalis, ever and nor do I intend to do so. We are our own ethnic group with own traditions.

I think you should do some research before chatting to me. Oromos have no intention to fight the Ethiopian government because why would we fight ourselves? So who are you calling a cuck? What is Ogaden doing right now that is unstabilizing the government? Absolutely nothing.

And the funniest part is that you insult me because you are wrong. You don't even feel embarassed from showing your low IQ ๐Ÿ’€๐Ÿ’€ you're sad bro.
 
There is no need for me to cope, this is well known. They only speak Oromo but their culture and genetics are Somali.
This is literally coping dude. You have no idea what settling is, do you? Are the Europeans in America assimulated Native Americans? Are the Dutch in South Africa assimulated Bantu?
 

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You did not make Harar. Harar was built by Hararis. There may have been some mixed Somalis/Afars/Argobba Adalites but Adal and Harar is mainly focused on the Harari ethnic group, hence called Harar.
Hararis = inhabitants of Harar, itโ€™s not an ethnicity and the first mention of Hararis were about Somalis. Argobba were pagans before Imam Ahmed converted them and donโ€™t have anything to do with Harar.
And not every age of colonization ends, especially if you settle in the lands such as the United States, the Cape in South Africa, the Greeks who live in Egypt, the Jews who live in Europe, so on and so forth. You can't just kick these innocent people out.
The inhabitants of Hararghe are mostly Somalia who got assimilated linguistically and know speak Oromo but their culture/genetics are very much Somali so weโ€™re not thinking of kicking them out or anything.
Oromos that live in Harar are not assimulated.. clearly you have no idea what settle means. Are United States citizens assimulated Native Americans? Are the Dutch in South Africa assimulated Bantu? Stop justifying your stupid claims to justify your hate for Oromos.
Even the โ€œOromosโ€ in Harar know well that theyโ€™re assimilated and that their origins are Somali, Iโ€™ve met a few whoโ€™ve told me this personally.
Harar never belonged to Somalia, it has always belonged to Hararis. You know whats absolutely halarious that you probably have no idea of? Most Hararis claim Habesha and they are some of the Ethiopianist ethnic groups in our country. Obviously you wouldn't know that because one you have never met an Harari and second you have never been to Harar because you wouldn't know that ALL ethnic groups co-exist peacefully in the city.
Hararis donโ€™t claim Habesha and they arenโ€™t even a real ethnicity to begin with. Read my first excerpt about this.
"Wallahi you don't know the hate I have for you Oromos" kaffir behavior. How could you call yourself a Muslim ๐Ÿ’€ seriously lol.
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Clearly, you have do not know ANYTHING about Oromo people and their history. We have not ruled anyone? Who is ruling the country right now?
Which ethnic group is most contributed within the current ruling party? Not only are we ruling Ethiopia right now, we ruled Ethiopia for over 200 years during the Zemene Mesafint, replacing Ethiopian Solomonic monarchies and properly teaching Abyssinians how to fight.
Itโ€™s well known that Oromos are barbarians donโ€™t contribute any history to Ethiopia or the Horn in general. I donโ€™t say this out of hate for Oromos but it is the truth, wherever the Oromos lived they brought down rhe culture and development of the areas and even dropped the local iq.
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I have never compared Oromos to Somalis, ever and nor do I intend to do so. We are our own ethnic group with own traditions. I think you should do some research before chatting to me. Oromos have no intention to fight the Ethiopian government because why would we fight ourselves? So who are you calling a cuck? What is Ogaden doing right now that is unstabilizing the government? Absolutely nothing.
Oromos being under Ethiopia for centuries while Somalis were dealt the wrong hand by the British Empire are two separate things, but letโ€™s stay on topic.
 

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Somalis don't have any business in Harar so I don't know why you even care lmao. I haven't met one Somali in Harar.
Somalis have always been in Harar and founded it too. Oromos like you can continue to cope, meanwhile can you show me one notable town that Oromos have built before the 1800s?
 
Somalis have always been in Harar and founded it too. Oromos like you can continue to cope, meanwhile can you show me one notable town that Oromos have built before the 1800s?
Somalis didn't find Harar through, it was the Harlas. And what does it matter to show you what Oromo cities have been made? I can name a ton.
 

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Somalis didn't find Harar through, it was the Harlas. And what does it matter to show you what Oromo cities have been made? I can name a ton.
Harlas are an urbanized Somali clan that still lives in Hararghe today. And please show me any notable Oromo city/town before the 1800s.
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You have never been in Harar ever, why are you supporting a deportation? This is actually embarassing. Somalis aren't even in the city so why do you have a say?

Why are you lying? If you don't know anything about Harar, just say so. But trying to say that 'Somalis aren't even in the city' is ridiculous and factually incorrect.
 

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