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You’re missing the point. The views peddled by Roman officials against the Germanics was propaganda, since they wanted to justify their attempts at conquering Germanic territory.

There’s no issue with a Celt, Iberian or Germanic viewing the legacy of Rome as some sort of common European heritage.
Thats like me claiming Songhai or Mali. I can appreciate the history but my people had nothing to do with those kingdoms
 

Khaemwaset

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Your claim about Zeila being older than anything in Germany is baseless 😂

And yes, Germanic territory was densely populated so they’d definitely had urban centres all over Germania headed by petty kings. The main thing that held back the development of Germania was the land was covered in forests which limited farming capability.
Show me a single city in Germania older than zelia.

It wasn't densely populated at all. It only became more populated during the end of rome and enter the medieval age.

During the time of ceasar, Germania was very sparse. It literally says in his book he walked days without seeing villages. Does that look like densely populated to you?
 

Khaemwaset

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Your claim about Zeila being older than anything in Germany is baseless 😂
You sure bro?
Germany oldest city was built by romans at the turn of the millennium.

Somali peninsula and Ethiopia was a thousand years more advanced than the Germanics before the romans spent centuries bringing them civilization.

Not a single city in germania yet city states in Somaliweyn and kingdoms along Sudan & Axum.
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Show me a single city in Germania older than zelia.

It wasn't densely populated at all. It only became more populated during the end of rome and enter the medieval age.

During the time of ceasar, Germania was very sparse. It literally says in his book he walked days without seeing villages. Does that look like densely populated to you?
This is not even worth arguing over. In the end the Germanics came out on top against the Romans, Slavs & Iberians.

Heck, we’re having this argument over the Internet/WWW which was invented by an Englishman in the English language 😂
 

Khaemwaset

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This is not even worth arguing over. In the end the Germanics came out on top against the Romans, Slavs & Iberians.

Heck, we’re having this argument over the Internet/WWW which was invented by an Englishman in the English language 😂
And you type using an alphabet invented by phonecians In Lebanon.

Writing and maths & wheel invented by Iraq

Paper invented by China

Numbers invented by India

Probably gonna drink coffee invented in the horn
 
And you type using an alphabet invented by phonecians In Lebanon.

Writing and maths & wheel invented by Iraq

Paper invented by China

Numbers invented by India

Probably gonna drink coffee invented in the horn
Nothing wrong with that. The Alphabet can also be accredited to the Ancient Egyptians, since the Phoenicians took the Egyptian script & simplified/modified it.

As for the coffee, its a drink that was invented in Arabia/Yemen. However, the Coffee bean was discovered in Ethiopia.
 
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Thats like me claiming Songhai or Mali. I can appreciate the history but my people had nothing to do with those kingdoms
It’s even worse than that, Germanic peoples and many other European groups were massacred in large amounts by the romans but the descendants of these groups (non-Mediterranean and more northern/Western Europeans) treat the empire like it’s part of their legacy, especially the British, literally to the point that people see the Roman empire as more British historically than Mediterranean/Italian.

It’d be like Africans centuries from now claiming the British Empire cause their people were colonized killed and treated harshly by them🤣.

The romans also physically distinguished themselves from Germanic peoples the same way they distinguished themselves from middle easterners and North Africans, claiming they were both Europeans all the same ain’t true, the concept didn’t exist lol, also what kind of argument is language affiliation, that’d be like me claiming Egypt cause they spoke Afro-asiatic which means you could go a couple thousand years back before ancient Egypt and there would be shared heritage “WE WUZ KANGS”, what a dumb point.
 
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It’s even worse than that, Germanic peoples and many other European groups were massacred in large amounts by the romans but the descendants of these groups (non-Mediterranean and more northern/Western Europeans) treat the empire like it’s part of their legacy, especially the British, literally to the point that people see the Roman empire as more British historically than Mediterranean/Italian.

It’d be like Africans centuries from now claiming the British Empire cause their people were colonized killed and treated harshly by them🤣.

The romans also physically distinguished themselves from Germanic peoples the same way they distinguished themselves from middle easterners and North Africans, claiming they were both Europeans all the same ain’t true, the concept didn’t exist lol, also what kind of argument is language affiliation, that’d be like me claiming Egypt cause they spoke Afro-asiatic which means you could go a couple thousand years back before ancient Egypt and there would be shared heritage “WE WUZ KANGS”, what a dumb point.
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Could say the same about Grand Mosque of Cordoba.

ChatGPT:

Title: Allah's Divine Will: The Conquest of Constantinople

Introduction:
Throughout history, numerous events have unfolded that have had a profound impact on the course of civilization. One of such events was the awe-inspiring conquest of Constantinople by the Ottoman Empire in 1453. This monumental triumph carries a deeper significance within Islamic theology, as it serves as a testament to the divine will of Allah and challenges the foundations of Orthodox Christianity. The fall of Constantinople inarguably disproves the claims of Orthodox Christianity and powerfully illustrates Islam as the true religion, an assertion that demands recognition and contemplation.

Allah's Divine Plan:
The conquest of Constantinople, orchestrated by Sultan Mehmed II, was undoubtedly a manifestation of Allah's divine will. It demonstrated the unfolding of a cosmic plan, fulfilling prophecies and conveying a message to believers and non-believers alike. This conquest was not a mere product of human ambition or geopolitical realities but rather a divine intervention, strategically orchestrated over centuries by Allah himself.

A Symbolic Disapproval of Orthodox Christianity:
The fall of Constantinople effectively challenges the validity of Orthodox Christianity. Orthodox Christianity, boasting a legacy rooted in the Byzantine Empire, claimed to be the true expression of Christianity. However, the conquest exposed the temporal vulnerability of Constantinople, permitting Islam to emerge victorious. This obliteration shattered the notion of Constantinople as the heart of the Christian world, undermining Orthodox Christianity's legitimacy and showcasing Islam's ascendancy.

Islamic Theology Affirmed:
As the Ottoman army breached the walls of Constantinople, it not only defeated a city but also debunked the presumed authority of Orthodox Christianity. This triumph accentuated the power of Islam, solidifying its position as the true religion. In Islam, the belief in the oneness of Allah is central, and the conquest effectively exemplifies the supremacy of Allah's plan over any human construct. The fall of Constantinople serves as a divine endorsement of Islamic theology, further affirming the believers' faith and calling upon humanity to contemplate the signs of Allah's power and wisdom.

A Lesson for All of Humanity:
The conquest of Constantinople stands as a pivotal moment in history, offering profound lessons for all of humanity. It reminds us that human power and dominion are transient, and it is Allah who ultimately determines the fate of nations and civilizations. It challenges us to reflect on the deeper truths and the unerring guidance that Allah offers through Islam. Moreover, it opens up avenues for interfaith dialogue, providing an opportunity for Orthodox Christians and others to question their assumptions and consider the foundations of their faith.

Conclusion:
The conquest of Constantinople was an undeniable testament to the divine will of Allah. By challenging the very essence of Orthodox Christianity and asserting Islam as the true religion, it leaves a lasting impact on the course of history. The fall of Constantinople calls humanity to acknowledge the signs and divine interventions in our world, urging us to contemplate the teachings of Islam as a means to attain spiritual enlightenment, unity, and ultimate truth.

Also ChatGPT:

Title: The Fall of Constantinople: A Testament to Allah's Will and the True Path of Islam

Introduction:
The fall of Constantinople in 1453 marked a pivotal moment in history, serving as a testament to Allah's divine will and affirming the truth of Islam. This momentous event not only disproves the claims of Orthodox Christianity but also highlights the unique significance Constantinople held in comparison to Al-Andalus. While the tragic fall of Al-Andalus did not disprove Islam, it lacked the religious centrality that Constantinople possessed. This essay aims to assertively explore these assertions and shed light on the true essence of Islam.

Allah's Divine Will in the Conquest of Constantinople:
The conquest of Constantinople by the Ottoman Empire, under the command of Sultan Mehmed II, was an undeniable manifestation of Allah's divine will. Islamic scholars and historians have long recognized the significance of this event, attributing it to a combination of strategic military prowess and Allah's favor upon the Muslims. The fall of Constantinople stands as a decisive victory for Islam, lending credence to the belief that Islam is the true religion.

Disproving Orthodox Christianity:
The conquest of Constantinople delivered a significant blow to the claims of Orthodox Christianity. The city's fall shattered the illusion of the "eternal city" and symbolized the decline of Byzantium's religious supremacy. Orthodox Christianity, built upon a foundation of dogma and rigid doctrines, was unable to withstand the resilience and strength of the Islamic forces. This contrast underscores the inherent superiority of Islam and its ability to prevail over competing faiths.

The Centrality of Constantinople to Orthodox Christianity:
Constantinople served as the heart of Orthodox Christianity, with its importance deeply ingrained in the religious identity of the Byzantine Empire. The city's grandeur, its status as the imperial capital, and its rich religious traditions made it both a political and spiritual center. Consequently, the conquest of Constantinople not only marked the end of an era economically, culturally, and politically but also dealt a severe blow to the essence of Orthodox Christianity itself. This stark contrast further underscores the undeniable truth of Islam.

The Fall of Al-Andalus and its Limited Influence:
In contrast to Constantinople, the tragic fall of Al-Andalus, the Islamic state in medieval Spain, does not disprove the validity of Islam. While Al-Andalus did play a significant role in Islamic history, it was not the center of Islamic faith as Constantinople was for Orthodox Christianity. The loss of Al-Andalus was primarily a consequence of political and military factors, rather than a reflection of any inherent flaw within Islam. The absence of a profound religious basis for Al-Andalus's fall distinguishes it from the conquest of Constantinople and reinforces Islam's enduring truth.

Conclusion:
The fall of Constantinople, an event willed by Allah, unequivocally disproves the claims of Orthodox Christianity and substantiates Islam's status as the true religion. The centrality of Constantinople to Orthodox Christianity and the pivotal role it played in civilization highlights the incomparable nature of this conquest. In contrast, the fall of Al-Andalus does not undermine Islam due to its peripheral religious significance and the factors contributing to its demise being primarily political. The steadfastness of Islam is firmly established through historical events, such as the fall of Constantinople, reminding us of Allah's divine plan and guiding humanity towards the path of truth.
 
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Somali_patriotic

Everything unuka leh
Nothing wrong with that. The Alphabet can also be accredited to the Ancient Egyptians, since the Phoenicians took the Egyptian script & simplified/modified it.

As for the coffee, its a drink that was invented in Arabia/Yemen. However, the Coffee bean was discovered in Ethiopia.
The first mention of Coffe consuming/drinking was in zeila
Yemen took it from us, There's a folklore of Ethiopians sidama finding it tho
 

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