I want to be a leftist, but leftists make it hard(senseless rambling)

[zesocialanimal]

It’s clear that fascism and far right ideology is taking over the western world, in particular the US.

The problem simply lies in the fact that leftism which is the antithesis of right wing hatred is completely dead in the west. It’s been infected.

I was invited to the communist party chapter at my university. And they’re talking about made up things like fatphobia and “polyamorous queer” relationships. Leftism has been so corrupted by identity politics and khaniisnimo it makes me sick. Any communist leader would have had these people put in prison or something.

The worst part is as black Muslims in the west, these are the closest things we have to allies. Since the other side simply wants us gone.

 

[balanbalis]

I do agree, but leftist spaces are vastly diverse

I would identify as a leftist/progressive but my focus is primarily the economy (the west needs to implement at least some socialism into the economy)

On social issues, my policy is that: if an action harms no one (including the person themselves) then idgaf. If someone wants to identify as anything, whatever that’s not my problem.

But if someone/an institution is e.g. misogynistic, racist, pedophillic etc that’s a problem as it does harm people’s lives

But @zesocialanimal don’t worry about identifying as anything, a specific branch of leftism or whatever. Just have your beliefs and stick to them. Labelling stuff as complex as politics is dumb anyways. I promise you’ll find likeminded people who think of progressivism in the same way as you. There’s a Marxist-Muslim YouTuber who you may like, since it’s a blend of what you believe in

 

[Espaa_]

Why dont you take the political compass? See exactly where you fall in your beliefs. I linked the actual website below (dw this link is safe)

https://www.politicalcompass.org/

 

[balanbalis]

Why dont you take the political compass? See exactly where you fall in your beliefs. I linked the actual website below (dw this link is safe)

https://www.politicalcompass.org/

I’m such a politics nerd that I can tell exactly where each question will put you but that test puts anyone with conscious in the hard left anti-state section which is dumb

 

[Espaa_]

I’m such a politics nerd that I can tell exactly where each question will put you but that test puts anyone with conscious in the hard left anti-state section which is dumb

When i was back in sixth form i remember learning about the F scale. How about that test? Icl it only tests if your fascist right wing though

 

[bohom]

It’s clear that fascism and far right ideology is taking over the western world, in particular the US.

The problem simply lies in the fact that leftism which is the antithesis of right wing hatred is completely dead in the west. It’s been infected.

It is best to not attach yourself to an arbitrary politcal label that is placed on a spectrum where the meanings of both ends change like the wind depending on the wider political environment. You will likely share political beliefs of different sides for different situations and thats ok.

 

[zesocialanimal]

I do agree, but leftist spaces are vastly diverse

I would identify as a leftist/progressive but my focus is primarily the economy (the west needs to implement at least some socialism into the economy)

On social issues, my policy is that: if an action harms no one (including the person themselves) then idgaf. If someone wants to identify as anything, whatever that’s not my problem.

But if someone/an institution is e.g. misogynistic, racist, pedophillic etc that’s a problem as it does harm people’s lives

But @zesocialanimal don’t worry about identifying as anything, a specific branch of leftism or whatever. Just have your beliefs and stick to them. Labelling stuff as complex as politics is dumb anyways. I promise you’ll find likeminded people who think of progressivism in the same way as you. There’s a Marxist-Muslim YouTuber who you may like, since it’s a blend of what you believe in

Thats what I was thinking, it seems that our political beliefs have no labels in the west.

My worry is that with the political polarization that’s going on we’ll be forced to choose allies, Muslims cannot stand alone or we’ll be crushed.

I don’t know what country you’re from walaal, but in America things are getting ridiculous. We have a borderline fascist president that’s hell bent on bringing back 100 percent cadaan control of the nation.

If they come for us, who will we stand with? Will we be forced to abandon our morals for survival? Many questions

 

[World]

It’s clear that fascism and far right ideology is taking over the western world, in particular the US.

The problem simply lies in the fact that leftism which is the antithesis of right wing hatred is completely dead in the west. It’s been infected.

I was invited to the communist party chapter at my university. And they’re talking about made up things like fatphobia and “polyamorous queer” relationships. Leftism has been so corrupted by identity politics and khaniisnimo it makes me sick. Any communist leader would have had these people put in prison or something.

The worst part is as black Muslims in the west, these are the closest things we have to allies. Since the other side simply wants us gone.

Western leftists are not real leftists

 

[The truth seeker]

Fascism is just the merger of business and government it’s basically state capitalism a good example of this is china

Calling the US fascist is laughable few country’s are more pro free market than the US

 

[Unicorn]

I dont label myself but i understand where ur coming from. The right wing is filled with anti muslim anti immigrant beliefs and the left has some beliefs tht we dont agree with. Between both the left has a chance to hear u out and include you. You dont have to label urself tho. Also, a lot of somalis are in politics in America now and i see we live in the same country. Those somali politicans can bring our beliefs. Most people only hear about ilhan but theres so many somali mayors and representives.

 

[Aseer]

Why dont you take the political compass? See exactly where you fall in your beliefs. I linked the actual website below (dw this link is safe)

https://www.politicalcompass.org/

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[Keep it a boqol]

Modern leftism today is all about pronouns, open relationships, gays and trying to guilt niggas that fat women are beautiful.

 

[cunug3aad]

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If i weren't Somali id want to be Singaporean

 

[Aseer]

If i weren't Somali id want to be Singaporean

I looked into this lee kuan yew guy they compared me to and he is unbelievably based, no wonder why singapore is so advanced

 

[balanbalis]

When i was back in sixth form i remember learning about the F scale. How about that test? Icl it only tests if your fascist right wing though

I'll be honest, I've never heard of that. Facism itself is a diverse ideology, it was 'invented' by Italy, used aesthetically by Japan, and caused world wide impllcations becasue of Germany.

The political compass test is useful for basic responses, but if anyone ends up on the right side of the compass just know they ticked the most diabolical stuff as even the most basic of human rights will force you into the centre-left

 

[NidarNidar]

It’s clear that fascism and far right ideology is taking over the western world, in particular the US.

The problem simply lies in the fact that leftism which is the antithesis of right wing hatred is completely dead in the west. It’s been infected.

I was invited to the communist party chapter at my university. And they’re talking about made up things like fatphobia and “polyamorous queer” relationships. Leftism has been so corrupted by identity politics and khaniisnimo it makes me sick. Any communist leader would have had these people put in prison or something.

The worst part is as black Muslims in the west, these are the closest things we have to allies. Since the other side simply wants us gone.

Join the center.

 

[balanbalis]

Join the center.

As a centrist, can I ask a question? What's the appeal of centre politics when it just seems to be the belief that 'whatevers happening now is alright, lets not change'

 

[Espaa_]

Might as well add my 2 cents to this. Not to derail but I think left and right are both outdated there should be a new system with new ideas and it should be called Up and Down

 

[Gracias]

Honestly, you have two choices. People who want to deport you and will always see you as a foreigner and people who don’t. The gop from the early 2000s would at least pretend to like muslims (despite the wars) and are nothing like current republicans (even tho they were terrible in many ways). Dems are moving away from lgbt policies because they think it’s a losing battle anyways. I think many minorities would enjoy voting for a conservative party without worrying about if they’re going to suddenly start discriminating against minorities (not me) but the brutal reality is that’s impossible & there is no party like that. Identity politics isn’t bad, sometimes I think minorities forget that they’re minorities. Orgs against islamophobia or programs that fund research into helping minorities with illnesses (medical racism) only exist because of identity politics/DEI whatever you want to call it tbh

 

[NidarNidar]

As a centrist, can I ask a question? What's the appeal of centre politics when it just seems to be the belief that 'whatevers happening now is alright, lets not change'

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