I feel sorry for Farmaajo

I would not mind a president from any Somali qabiil to be elected but I still don't think it will change anything, we need to end this qabyaalad BS nearly 30 sano after the civil war and we're lacking in ever aspect we can't feed our own people, for serious medical procedures we have to go abroad, drought, famine,flooding, death and destruction.

Corruption and security is a major problem lkn with the help of Allah iyo dhankeena oo dadaal ka mujina we can be the richest country in Africa, we can dominate other countries in agriculture,fisheries,manufacturing,mining and so many more lkn who the hell wants that (I certainly DO NOT) instead let's all focus on qabyaalad and see how far it gets us.

As much as I love my brothers and sister in Somalia, I don't think electing a president from a minor qabiil or any qabiil for that matter will change the way Somalia is at the moment lkn I will put my trust in Allah and will do my utmost best to help my people and country till my last breathe insha'Allah
Qabiil is everything. Why are we ignoring the elephant in the room? Can you name me one President since 1969 who did not receive opposition due to clan?

Ignore @Cognitivedissonance, he descends from a Zanzibari Ape who acts pro Farmaajo just to spite me. In every other thread he calls him a weak ****, lol dude has the brain of a 3 year old. He trolls too much and needs a job.
 
Qabiil is everything. Why are we ignoring the elephant in the room? Can you name me one President since 1969 who did not receive opposition due to clan?

Ignore @Cognitivedissonance, he descends from a Zanzibari Ape who acts pro Farmaajo just to spite me. In every other thread he calls him a weak ****, lol dude has the brain of a 3 year old. He trolls too much and needs a job.
I do not have a problem with qabiil but rather qayaalad, nearly 30 years of fighting what have we achieved exactly nothing we have people claiming to be Muslim but they'll support the down fall of their brother in Islam. We have shisheeye in the country, we have xoolo countries who we used to give handouts to messing with us, health care is qashin, education is qashin, We can't feed our own people, our military is qashin and the entire 4.5 system is QASHIN

Let's leave qabyaalad behind and put our trust in Allah and rebuild our country and military and by Allah we would achieve great things.

You say "qabiil is everything" lkn how on earth can we as a people move forward with such a primitive system like the 4.5 (which is against Islam) and truly make our country great with the will of Allah. As long as we continue on this path nothing will change lkn Alhamdulilah I am doing my best to encourage change a bit by bit and hopefully my future kids can continue from where their father has left off InshaAllah!

Question over to you, what changes needs to be made in order for Somalia to move forward and become a powerhouse not just in east Africa but in the world?
 
I do not have a problem with qabiil but rather qayaalad, nearly 30 years of fighting what have we achieved exactly nothing we have people claiming to be Muslim but they'll support the down fall of their brother in Islam. We have shisheeye in the country, we have xoolo countries who we used to give handouts to messing with us, health care is qashin, education is qashin, We can't feed our own people, our military is qashin and the entire 4.5 system is QASHIN

Let's leave qabyaalad behind and put our trust in Allah and rebuild our country and military and by Allah we would achieve great things.

You say "qabiil is everything" lkn how on earth can we as a people move forward with such a primitive system like the 4.5 (which is against Islam) and truly make our country great with the will of Allah. As long as we continue on this path nothing will change lkn Alhamdulilah I am doing my best to encourage change a bit by bit and hopefully my future kids can continue from where their father has left off InshaAllah!

Question over to you, what changes needs to be made in order for Somalia to move forward and become a powerhouse not just in east Africa but in the world?
I support 4.5 but without the .5. The minorities should not be designated to half the seats as everyone else.

So if we had 10 Ministers in the Cabinet, each major clan should have 2 Ministers and the minorities should have 2.

You people who disagree with 4.5 are the first to complain when a certain clan has more seats than others. :manny:
 
I support 4.5 but without the .5. The minorities should not be designated to half the seats as everyone else.

So if we had 10 Ministers in the Cabinet, each major clan should have 2 Ministers and the minorities should have 2.

You people who disagree with 4.5 are the first to complain when a certain clan has more seats than others. :manny:
If you keep pushing out those minorities chances are they'll realise the system is rigged against them and probably start a civil war, plus with that sort of system I doubt we'll achieve anything, how do you plan on stopping inter-clan fighting, border disputes and which president is elected, do the people choose or do clan elders pick them
 
If you keep pushing out those minorities chances are they'll realise the system is rigged against them and probably start a civil war, plus with that sort of system I doubt we'll achieve anything, how do you plan on stopping inter-clan fighting, border disputes and which president is elected, do the people choose or do clan elders pick them
Push them out? I just said they should be equal to the major clans. 4.5 gives them 30 seats in parliament, I am proposing they get 60 to match the major clans.

The President should serve 10 years in office rather than a flimsy 4 because 4 years is a joke, half the time is spent reshuffling the cabinet and campaigning for another election. We are not at a level where the public can vote. For now it will have to be the parliament. Clan elders should not be involved in politics at all whatsofuckingever. They are peacemakers to resolve water well issues.

I am proposing that the President be elected from a minority to neutralise the Hawiye-Darod rivalry that has plagued every government since 1969. Somaliland did this when they elected a Samaroon, this reduced the intra Isaaq rivalry and he (Daahir Riyaale) made good progress such as extending their influence to Las Anod and the Sool region.

The National Army should be an equal proportion of each federal region. They should not be placed anywhere near civilians but rather a camp on a border town in each gobol. This will reduce any chance of a coup or a mass revolt. Border disputes are local issues, that should be resolved by local police.
 

Mercury

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This isn’t Farmaajos fault you could be the worlds best president and still not fix Somalia the people are blinded by tribalism to the point they have no understanding of honor or nationalism

How can a person claim to love their country yet will justify killing,rapes and corruption all because they share the same tribe?
 
Push them out? I just said they should be equal to the major clans. 4.5 gives them 30 seats in parliament, I am proposing they get 60 to match the major clans.

The President should serve 10 years in office rather than a flimsy 4 because 4 years is a joke, half the time is spent reshuffling the cabinet and campaigning for another election. We are not at a level where the public can vote. For now it will have to be the parliament. Clan elders should not be involved in politics at all whatsofuckingever. They are peacemakers to resolve water well issues.

I am proposing that the President be elected from a minority to neutralise the Hawiye-Darod rivalry that has plagued every government since 1969. Somaliland did this when they elected a Samaroon, this reduced the intra Isaaq rivalry and he (Daahir Riyaale) made good progress such as extending their influence to Las Anod and the Sool region.

The National Army should be an equal proportion of each federal region. They should not be placed anywhere near civilians but rather a camp on a border town in each gobol. This will reduce any chance of a coup or a mass revolt. Border disputes are local issues, that should be resolved by local police.
I think I misunderstood your earlier post I thought you were pushing out the minorities but I get it now, making all the qabiils equal that's perfect lkn I don't think I'll agree on the 10 year presidency, we have power hungry individuals so maybe 5 or 6 years tops, also we need a committee to over see any deals being made with foreign countries/companies if it's in the benefit of the country and people, we don't want make terrible deals like giving a fishing license to China for $1m dollars do we?
 
This isn’t Farmaajos fault you could be the worlds best president and still not fix Somalia the people are blinded by tribalism to the point they have no understanding of honor or nationalism

How can a person claim to love their country yet will justify killing,rapes and corruption all because they share the same tribe?
Unfortunately our people won't let go of qabyaalad any time soon, commit any crime and it's incredible how people will completely forget the deen and defend the criminal at all cost.

The example of the prophet

“Do you intercede concerning one of the Hadd set by Allah? Those who came before you were destroyed because if a rich man among them stole, they would let him off, but if a lowly person stole, they would carry out the punishment on him. By Allah, if Faatimah Bint (daughter of) Muhammad were to steal, I would cut off her hand.” [Al-Bukhari]
 
This isn’t Farmaajos fault you could be the worlds best president and still not fix Somalia the people are blinded by tribalism to the point they have no understanding of honor or nationalism

How can a person claim to love their country yet will justify killing,rapes and corruption all because they share the same tribe?

Bingo.
 

Shaolin23

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Push them out? I just said they should be equal to the major clans. 4.5 gives them 30 seats in parliament, I am proposing they get 60 to match the major clans.

The President should serve 10 years in office rather than a flimsy 4 because 4 years is a joke, half the time is spent reshuffling the cabinet and campaigning for another election. We are not at a level where the public can vote. For now it will have to be the parliament. Clan elders should not be involved in politics at all whatsofuckingever. They are peacemakers to resolve water well issues.

I am proposing that the President be elected from a minority to neutralise the Hawiye-Darod rivalry that has plagued every government since 1969. Somaliland did this when they elected a Samaroon, this reduced the intra Isaaq rivalry and he (Daahir Riyaale) made good progress such as extending their influence to Las Anod and the Sool region.

The National Army should be an equal proportion of each federal region. They should not be placed anywhere near civilians but rather a camp on a border town in each gobol. This will reduce any chance of a coup or a mass revolt. Border disputes are local issues, that should be resolved by local police.
You’re a smart HG but are you’re tol smart enough to return all looted government and private property and follow law and order :cosbyhmm:
 

Mercury

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Moderator
Unfortunately our people won't let go of qabyaalad any time soon, commit any crime and it's incredible how people will completely forget the deen and defend the criminal at all cost.

The example of the prophet

“Do you intercede concerning one of the Hadd set by Allah? Those who came before you were destroyed because if a rich man among them stole, they would let him off, but if a lowly person stole, they would carry out the punishment on him. By Allah, if Faatimah Bint (daughter of) Muhammad were to steal, I would cut off her hand.” [Al-Bukhari]
It’s crazy

Aa long as this exists there will never be justice
 
It’s crazy

Aa long as this exists there will never be justice
It's incredible how they can be Muslim and pro qabyaalad, letting the rapist, muderer, thief and all sort of degenerates escape without punishment but I do think it's possible to overcome it with the help of Allah iyo dhankeena oo dadaal ka mujina, it will take time lkn we will overcome this illness InshaAllah simply by making changes regardless of how small it may be.
 
You clearly demonstrated you incapable of answering a simple question. "are you Muslim" you reply with STOP JUDGING MY FAITH ISIS SHABAAB TERRORIST KHAWARIJ and all sort of nonsense. Good day to you sir

dont waste time on cognitive, he is not alright in the head, he will twist your words extremely, i think he is a 15 year old kid, loves arguing just for the sake of it,
 
dont waste time on cognitive, he is not alright in the head, he will twist your words extremely, i think he is a 15 year old kid, loves arguing just for the sake of it,
I gave up on the guy, he has difficulties with answering simple questions and loves to twist my words lkn I lost all hope when I came across some of his posts calling other somalis "black samaale" and thinking his Arab and superior, ilaahay ha so hanuuniyo he's suffering from inferiority complex
 

Tukraq

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This isn’t Farmaajos fault you could be the worlds best president and still not fix Somalia the people are blinded by tribalism to the point they have no understanding of honor or nationalism

How can a person claim to love their country yet will justify killing,rapes and corruption all because they share the same tribe?
Totally false, a good to semi average president compared to the world would be able to fix Somalia, its not rocket science
 
Totally false, a good to semi average president compared to the world would be able to fix Somalia, its not rocket science
As much as I would like to believe that, I don't think "a good to semi average president" would get rid of Al shaydaan, corruption, interclan fighting, shisheeye and most of all qabyaalad.

I think you fail to realise the impact of qabyaalad where the rapist, thief, muderer and all sorts of criminals go without punishment cuz they are protected by their qabiil in other words they are above the law, with a system like that it doesn't better who the president is nothing will change cuz there's no justice
 

Arma

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Farmajo is by far the worst Somali president in the last 30 years. Two years into his presidency, and the man has not achieved a damn thing. In fact under his Presidency, the security and political stability has regressed.
 

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