I’ll be joining the passport bro movement

[TekNiKo]

So many guys have been traveling overseas to find suitable wives. There excuses are, they cant cook and clean. When I ask them will they bring them to America they usually always say “never” because “she will become westernized by feminism”. It makes no sense to me. Im tryna travel back and forth to so my girl.

Mashallah welcome to the club, you will love these Halimos because they are loyal and kind and cook great food. Plus no corrupted feminism

 

[Angelina]

Mashallah welcome to the club, you will love these Halimos because they are loyal and kind and cook great food. Plus no corrupted feminism

Be honest with yourself, if you actually found a miskeen Xalimo in Toronto, would you be able to afford for her to completely stay home without dad the government?

If you know, deep within your heart you can't, stop embarrassing yourself with those comments.

You lot damn well know a man with real means would be able to find himself a woman that stays home since he'll be able to cover all her needs and costs.


Now that is the crux of the issue. Don't take out your resentment on women. Level up.

 

[TekNiKo]

Be honest with yourself, if you actually found a miskeen Xalimo in Toronto, would you be able to afford for her to completely stay home without dad the government?

If you know, deep within your heart you can't, stop embarrassing yourself with those comments.

You lot damn well know a man with real means would be able to find himself a woman that stays home since he'll be able to cover all her needs and costs.


Now that is the crux of the issue. Don't take out your resentment on women. Level up.

Yes I could easily, not all us are the poor “redpill” incels you paint us too be. Some of us value culture and af Somali language and Somali food. You can probably count with your fingers a Toronto Halimo that can cook beer with laxoox or maraq with isbandhays on the side and bisbaas. A girl who can enjoy Somali songs with you and actually understand the meaning. A girl who would raise your kids on Universal TV not House Wives of Atlanta..

You cant replace culture.

 

[Kalsoon]

Nobody is forcing women to go to university and work. We need to have accountability here. They choose to work and choose to prioritise a career over family, whatever happens as a result of that is entirely their fault.

How about all the people who go to school and work as a means of supporting themselves due to having no other familial support? How about all the people who have other people depending on them to take care of them from the aging parents to other individuals who have a right on them? Expand your mind and thinking for your sake.

 

[Hmohamed54]

I recall you saying your family was helping you to search before. Did they find people?

I wasn’t to sure about since I never knew how common it was to get married abroad. After I heard a couple of my friends do it and seen how happy they’re, I’ve changed my mind.

 

[Hmohamed54]

Funnily enough, the average mother in America does 80% of the cooking and cleaning and works 8hrs shift.

When you look at the statistics, it makes you think, is it marriage or slavery? Yet Western men still complain.

If women held men to the patriarchal standards of yesterday in which man has to fully provide, 70% of men will not being able to marry. They cannot have a family without a woman’s money, yet a woman’s full labour is also FULLY expected. How is that fair?

Talk about ungratefulness.

I can take care of my wife and kids single handedly. I’ve only met a few girls that fit the role of stay at home wife. The rest want a career oriented relationship.

 

[rep]

This is smart widen your search restricting yourself to your local area makes no sense volume is king it's a numbers game and if your a decent guy you will insallah get a beautiful wife.

 

[adventurequestworlds1.0.2]

Doesnt matter if u got passport or not u can marty domali woman whether in somali homeland or diasparo

 

[NordicSomali]

So many guys have been traveling overseas to find suitable wives. There excuses are, they cant cook and clean. When I ask them will they bring them to America they usually always say “never” because “she will become westernized by feminism”. It makes no sense to me. Im tryna travel back and forth to so my girl.

I could not agree more, a part of me has secretly questioned whether these guys are secretly gay…what kind of marriage is it to see your wife once a year?

 

[rep]

I could not agree more, a part of me has secretly questioned whether these guys are secretly gay…what kind of marriage is it to see your wife once a year?

It's definitely easier nowadays for people with financial means to spend extended periods of time outside of their home countries, thanks to the variety of transportation and communication options available. However, this concept of being separated from loved ones for extended periods of time is not new. Throughout history, men have often been separated from their spouses or other family members for various reasons.

It seems like nowadays, men are more in touch with their feelings and need more love and attention. Back in the day, men were too busy being tough to worry about all that mushy stuff. I guess times have changed!

 

[Qeelbax]

Passport bro as in looking for a Somali from back home or passport bro as in looking for a cheap hooker in Colombia/Philippines?

The streets would like you to clarify

 

[Recovering]

So many guys have been traveling overseas to find suitable wives. There excuses are, they cant cook and clean. When I ask them will they bring them to America they usually always say “never” because “she will become westernized by feminism”. It makes no sense to me. Im tryna travel back and forth to so my girl.

good luck I guess

 

[Recovering]

Be honest with yourself, if you actually found a miskeen Xalimo in Toronto, would you be able to afford for her to completely stay home without dad the government?

If you know, deep within your heart you can't, stop embarrassing yourself with those comments.

You lot damn well know a man with real means would be able to find himself a woman that stays home since he'll be able to cover all her needs and costs.


Now that is the crux of the issue. Don't take out your resentment on women. Level up.

Looool

 

[Bahamut122]

Take one look at these passport bro guys and tell me why you wanna be like one of them. Not one you can call attractive. They Ugly with shitty attitude

Its obvious they cant compete with the men in their area and ran from the grind. Sounds pussy to me

No attitude for your face. For clapped niggas like me, marrying back home is our only choice

 

[Last Laugh]

Somali men have always been passport bros. But it was usually the older Adeers looking for a second wife who did that.

 

[Dualke]

Women have always worked. That is a myth. Working class women started to work in factories since the beginning of the industrial revolution.

Peasant women have toiled the farm along with their husbands for at least thousands of years.

Women did not start to emerge on any scale as a part of the labor force until WW1, and even then they only constituted a small percentage.
I don't know why you are comparing a practice such as pastoralism or peasentry to a post-industrialized society. These women do not "drive up costs" because they live a substinence livelihood

That is a myth that goes against history. Redpill focuses on 1950s pipe dream.

Being Somali, your own great ayeeyo worked alongside your great grandfather. The men would look after the camels and the women the sheep, goat, build the Aresh: living area ect. Why is that okay for women to do such backbreaking work, but sitting in an air conditioned office In which they use their minds rather than their physical body is an issue?

Need a source for that

Women not working was only for the upper classes. Throughout human history women have worked.

The only difference is that more professions have been opened up for women that aren’t back breaking.

What is funny is that in the world you advocate for, women will most definitely have to work since the vast majority of humans have been poor/average but women would be reduced to maid work, factory work, farm work, but a woman being educated and city in an office is ‘driving up cost’. This is why I can’t take redpillers seriously. And before you deny being redpill, I know you got your sources from them as a person that as an actual understanding of history will tell you for free that women have always worked and that a lot of the discourse surrounding women’s work is based on Western 1950’s pipe dream.

Women working in factories and farms would also drive up, what are you actually talking about and when did I say this?

 

[Angelina]

Women did not start to emerge on any scale as a part of the labor force until WW1, and even then they only constituted a small percentage.
I don't know why you are comparing a practice such as pastoralism or peasentry to a post-industrialized society. These women do not "drive up costs" because they live a substinence livelihood

Female employment in the 1850s, 60s and 70s appears to have been higher than any recorded again until after World War II. Family budget evidence suggests that around 30-40 per cent of women from working class families contributed significantly to household incomes in the mid-Victorian years. This might have been even higher during the industrial revolution decades, before the rise of State and trade union policies regulating female labour and promoting the male breadwinner ideal.

BBC - History - Women's Work

Discover what life was like for Victorian women who worked wage-paying jobs alongside their domestic duties. How did this affect society?

www.bbc.co.uk

LOOL Kulaha women didn’t participate until world war 1. Please explain why employment was even higher 50 yrs earlier? Also, the source mentions that this figure might have been even higher during the Industrial revolution decades which is around 1780, so we’re talking nearly 130 yrs before World War1 @Dualke

It is fact that working class women during the Industrial revolution worked in factories. There are countless of sources for this.

Walal, one of my big pet peeves is when guys here make statements and mock you on topics that I can see they did 0 research on.

Need a source for that

Young man, are you really Somali if you don’t know about the life of Traditional Somali nomads? You don’t need sources. Ask your ayeyo, even ask the resident historian @Shimbiris who will write you a whole paragraph of traditional Somali Nomads lol.

Women working in factories and farms would also drive up, what are you actually talking about and when did I say this?

Tbh, my overall point really was to suggest that working class women throughout history have always had to work and unfortunately, their types of work was low pay, backbreaking and long hours.

There is no denying that more people work now, but a % of women have always worked. A woman working on a farm, or a nomadic woman working alongside her husbands looking after the cows and sheep and a 19th factory woman are all putting in work outside of being wives and mothers but for less money, less independence and less rest. So please me spare me the 1950s domestic bliss that simply wasn’t the case for the poor masses.

 

[NordicSomali]

It's definitely easier nowadays for people with financial means to spend extended periods of time outside of their home countries, thanks to the variety of transportation and communication options available. However, this concept of being separated from loved ones for extended periods of time is not new. Throughout history, men have often been separated from their spouses or other family members for various reasons.

It seems like nowadays, men are more in touch with their feelings and need more love and attention. Back in the day, men were too busy being tough to worry about all that mushy stuff. I guess times have changed!

But what sort of marriage is it to see each other only once or twice a year in different continents?

 

[Hmohamed54]

Passport bro as in looking for a Somali from back home or passport bro as in looking for a cheap hooker in Colombia/Philippines?

The streets would like you to clarify

Definitely looking for muslim wife. Preferably somali, Im looking in Somalia and neighboring countries. Using muzmatch, so many girls to choose from, now I just have to be careful.

 

[Shimbiris]

Need a source for that

I'm confused, walaalkay. What did you generally assume nomad and farmer women did in the miyi? Most of Somali is arid to semi-arid. Vast expanses similar to this:



There were no free rides in such an environment. The women generally tended to the smaller livestock like the goats and sheep, gathered materials for the traditional dome shaped mat-tents while being solely responsible for their erection, fed and generally educated the ilmo in their dhaqan, prepared meals and did all kinds of other stuff like churning butter, grinding grain or generally worked the fields if they were settled farmers like my own great ayeeyo of the Macalin Weyn Raxanweyn. Somali niman and naago were a team. The men conversely tended to handle the larger livestock, any defense or raiding, business dealings in the tuulo or magaalo, teaching the boys their work and so on...

Somalis were also, historically speaking, not necessarily like our distant relatives in the Peninsula when it came to women. Lots of ajanabi travellers, such as Burton whom Angelina and I recently discussed, tended to note that women enjoyed a certain assertiveness and deference within Somali society even before modernization that was not as seen in parts of Asia like Arabia or South Asia. For example, even the Sayyid Mohamed Abdullah Hassan allowed three of his wives to lead divisions within his army:

God is Merciful , ' the nine divisions of his forces were under loyal commanders , mostly relatives , including three wives , one of whom , Hasna Doreh , being as warlike as Boadicea .

The Brits called her a "She-Wolf". Kkkkkkk.