I’ll be joining the passport bro movement

So many guys have been traveling overseas to find suitable wives. There excuses are, they cant cook and clean. When I ask them will they bring them to America they usually always say “never” because “she will become westernized by feminism”. It makes no sense to me. Im tryna travel back and forth to so my girl.
 
If you speak good Somali, I don't think you'll have a problem. Just make sure they are okay with living in Africa. You'd probably have to move there in a couple of years. Maybe start a business or something.
 
Funnily enough, the average mother in America does 80% of the cooking and cleaning and works 8hrs shift.

When you look at the statistics, it makes you think, is it marriage or slavery? Yet Western men still complain.

If women held men to the patriarchal standards of yesterday in which man has to fully provide, 70% of men will not being able to marry. They cannot have a family without a woman’s money, yet a woman’s full labour is also FULLY expected. How is that fair?

Talk about ungratefulness.
 
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Funnily enough, the average mother in America does 80% of the cooking and cleaning and works 8hrs shift.

When you look at the statistics, it makes you think, is it marriage or slavery? Yet Western men still complain.

If women held men to the patriarchal standards of yesterday in which man has to fully provide, 70% of men will not being able to marry. They cannot have a family without a woman’s money, yet a woman’s full labour is also FULLY expected. How is that fair?

Talk about ungratefulness.
The average man cannot provide for his family alone solely because of feminism. An increase in labor supply without equally growing job opportunities leads to reduced wages as more people compete for jobs. If society were to attest to traditional patriarchal standards this would not be the case
 
The average man cannot provide for his family alone solely because of feminism.
Women have always worked. That is a myth. Working class women started to work in factories since the beginning of the industrial revolution which is around 1780, more than a hundred years before feminism and before women had the equal opportunities to work in more dignified careers.

Peasant women have toiled the farm along with their husbands for at least thousands of years. Medieval women generally worked as spinners and weavers.


An increase in labor supply without equally growing job opportunities leads to reduced wages as more people compete for jobs. If society were to attest to traditional patriarchal standards this would not be the case
That is a myth that goes against history. Redpill focuses on 1950s pipe dream.

Being Somali, your own great ayeeyo worked alongside your great grandfather. The men would look after the camels and the women the sheep, goat, build the Aresh: living area ect. Why is that okay for women to do such backbreaking work, but sitting in an air conditioned office In which they use their minds rather than their physical body is an issue?

Women not working was only for the upper classes. Throughout human history women have worked. Even upper class women would be working as part time accountants and managers as their husbands would have a huge estate with various servants and employees.

The only difference is that more professions have been opened up for women that aren’t back breaking. Before, a woman can work as a maid, cleaner, factory worker, nanny but she couldn’t be doctor. Do you see the hypocrisy?

What is funny is that in the world you advocate for, women will most definitely have to work since the vast majority of humans have been poor/average but women would be reduced to maid work, factory work, farm work, but a woman being educated and sitting in an office is ‘driving up cost’.

This is why I can’t take redpillers seriously. And before you deny being redpill, I know you got your sources from them as a person that has an actual understanding of history will tell you for free that women have always worked and that a lot of the discourse surrounding women’s work is based on Western 1950’s pipe dream.

It is clear to see that women working isn’t the issue, it’s women having access to jobs that aren’t badly paid or back breaking.
 
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Take one look at these passport bro guys and tell me why you wanna be like one of them. Not one you can call attractive. They Ugly with shitty attitude

Its obvious they cant compete with the men in their area and ran from the grind. Sounds pussy to me

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Funnily enough, the average mother in America does 80% of the cooking and cleaning and works 8hrs shift.

When you look at the statistics, it makes you think, is it marriage or slavery? Yet Western men still complain.

If women held men to the patriarchal standards of yesterday in which man has to fully provide, 70% of men will not being able to marry. They cannot have a family without a woman’s money, yet a woman’s full labour is also FULLY expected. How is that fair?

Talk about ungratefulness.
You have a source for the 80% ?

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You have a source for the 80% ?

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That is a breakdown of each chore, so that doesnt even contradict or negate my overal point of household duties combined along with child rearing. Even when you break it down, women are 51% more likely to clean, 51% more likey to cook compared to men which is what? 9% and 17% respectively compared to men? Hence how does that contradict the overall argument that women do more household duties?


Also, look at the bills? Men 34% and women 37%?! I don't know how accurate that is as I thought it would be men paying a bit more or it would be 50/50. If those statistics are real, then it's even more shocking as women are not only most likely to pay most of the bills whilst men are less likely to do household chores as well.

But you're right the current statistic i'm seeing is 60% not 80%. But generally, women in Western countries like the UK 93% of couples have a relationship in which the women do the bulk of the household chores.
 

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Take one look at these passport bro guys and tell me why you wanna be like one of them. Not one you can call attractive. They Ugly with shitty attitude

Its obvious they cant compete with the men in their area and ran from the grind. Sounds pussy to me

:manny:

If the women in your area are not up to standard then the only logical move is to look elsewhere.
 

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There are plenty of good, cultured women with strong iman here in the West. You've just got to search harder.
 

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That is a breakdown of each chore, so that doesnt even contradict or negate my overal point of household duties combined along with child rearing. Even when you break it down, women are 51% more likely to clean, 51% more likey to cook compared to men which is what? 9% and 17% respectively compared to men? Hence how does that contradict the overall argument that women do more household duties?


Also, look at the bills? Men 34% and women 37%?! I don't know how accurate that is as I thought it would be men paying a bit more or it would be 50/50. If those statistics are real, then it's even more shocking as women are not only most likely to pay most of the bills whilst men are less likely to do household chores as well.

But you're right the current statistic i'm seeing is 60% not 80%. But generally, women in Western countries like the UK 93% of couples have a relationship in which the women do the bulk of the household chores.

Nobody is forcing women to go to university and work. We need to have accountability here. They choose to work and choose to prioritise a career over family, whatever happens as a result of that is entirely their fault.
 
Nobody is forcing women to go to university and work. We need to have accountability here. They choose to work and choose to prioritise a career over family, whatever happens as a result of that is entirely their fault.

Point 1:Erm, you do know that most families cannot afford a one income household right? It's embarrassing for you to use the term accountability without even understanding the meaning? Like what do you even think it means? How can one take accountability for the fact that if they don't work, their husbands aren't going to be able to afford to soley put a roof over their heads? LOOL.

To add,You do know that working class/average women have always worked. You need start being accountable and look into history.
In the past average/working class women which is really the masses would be working in factories, farms, nannies and maids,with shit pay and poor hours.The difference now is that more higher paying and dignified jobs are open to women. So you choose? Factory worker or an air-conditioned office in which you get more time off and more money?

The issue with misogynists like you, is your lack of history and common sense. You live in an economy in which couples that BOTH work are now struggling with heating bills in the UK currently and this is your take? Where have you been, do you even read/watch the news?

Also, learn what accountability even means.
 
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Point 1:Erm, you do know that most families cannot afford a one income household right? It's embarrassing for you to use the term accountability without even understanding the meaning? Like what do you even think it means? How can one take accountability for the fact that if they don't work, their husbands aren't going to be able to afford to soley put a roof over their heads? LOOL.

To add,You do know that working class/average women have always worked. You need start being accountable and look into history.
In the past average/working class women which is really the masses would be working in factories, farms, nannies and maids,with shit pay and poor hours.The difference now is that more higher paying and dignified jobs are open to women. So you choose? Factory worker or an air-conditioned office in which you get more time off and more money?

The issue with misogynists like you, is your lack of history and common sense. You live in an economy in which couples that BOTH work are now struggling with heating bills in the UK currently and this is your take? Where have you been, do you even read/watch the news?

Also, learn what accountability even means.

I don't know why people keep pushing this "you need two incomes to survive" meme. If you don't live in the centre of a large city 1 income should be enough, I see this all the time. Most Somali couples I know live off the man's income.

Firstly, women in the past generally only worked in times of crisis or war, most women stayed at home. Secondly, spare me the sob stories and the buzzwords. Claiming that I hate women simply because I point out clear facts is only indicative of your poor logic and lack of rational thinking. Stop conjuring up these fantasies to try and justify your baseless arguments.
 
I don't know why people keep pushing this "you need two incomes to survive" meme. If you don't live in the centre of a large city 1 income should be enough, I see this all the time. Most Somali couples I know live off the man's income.
This is a fact. Look up current reports and statistics. I'll not go back and forth with you over basics.

Where are those couples? Is the wife taking benefits? Is she pretending to be a single mother?

Those are all factors. Btw, since the conservative government, there has been a clamp down and most Somali hooyos now work in the care industry.

Btw, your first paragraph gave away you're under 22. No way are you an adult and not know the current economic situation and how low wages are at the moment, especially in the UK.
Firstly, women in the past generally only worked in times of crisis or war, most women stayed at home. Secondly, spare me the sob stories and the buzzwords.
Not true. Wallahi the ignorance is very grating. A lot of poor/working class women worked. That is a fact. The issue is that your ideals and understanding of history starts with Western 1950s America. Where did you read women have only worked in times of crisis?

You're Somali. You're own great ayeeyo worked alongside your great-grandfather. The men would look after the camels, the women the sheep and cows and they would also build the Aresh.

Women in the industrial revolution would work in factories, before that they would have worked in farms which was what most peasants did.


Claiming that I hate women simply because I point out clear facts is only indicative of your poor logic and lack of rational thinking. Stop conjuring up these fantasies to try and justify your baseless arguments.
You didn't point out clear facts, that is the issue and you're arguing over historical points that cannot be contested all for a specific agenda. That isn't honest and I kmow you don't know much about the subject matter but you're still arguing. Why?
 
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That is a breakdown of each chore, so that doesnt even contradict or negate my overal point of household duties combined along with child rearing. Even when you break it down, women are 51% more likely to clean, 51% more likey to cook compared to men which is what? 9% and 17% respectively compared to men? Hence how does that contradict the overall argument that women do more household duties?
That women still do more house chores is nothing surprising or new .
Comparing it to slavery & the 80% is where you went wrong.
Also, look at the bills? Men 34% and women 37%?! I don't know how accurate that is as I thought it would be men paying a bit more or it would be 50/50. If those statistics are real, then it's even more shocking as women are not only most likely to pay most of the bills whilst men are less likely to do household chores as well.
It's not accurate. It doesn't state where the money coming from .
Many couples have a shared account it wouldn't be surprising that women handling more Bills like grocery shopping etc.
In about a third of married or cohabiting couples in the United States, women bring in half or more of the earnings, a significant increase from the past. But in most couples, men contribute more of the income, and this aligns with the fact that Americans place a higher value on a man’s role as financial provider.
But you're right the current statistic i'm seeing is 60% not 80%. But generally, women in Western countries like the UK 93% of couples have a relationship in which the women do the bulk of the household chores.
Yes & it's nothing surprising.
 

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