Huge World Bank poverty survey

*put away marehan card

*pull out darood card* I knew my brother in the north could do it. Really impressed with the developments
:russ:

Puntland are the least corrupt that's why. Somaliland and South Somalia get more aid but it goes into the politicians pockets while Puntland build markets, schools and airports with their aid money which contributes towards building the economy.
 
Rural people in the NE who receive no remittances have a lower rate of poverty than urbanites who do receive remittances in other regions.
It is also worth to point out that NW receives less remittances than NE with NW rural having the lowest incidence of receiving remittances (excl IDP's):

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In addition, I also totted up the population figures and found that percentage-wise, SL has a larger rural base (21.6%) than PL (15.8%) (I excluded Sanaag & Sool regions in my calculations since control is ambiguous at best).

Remittances are a major influence in several indicators (perhaps more so than governance) according to the World Bank survey too:

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Puntlandspot's reaction to the data that validates their beliefs


On a serious note, the leaders of the conflict-ridden federal states need to be taking more flights to Garowe to learn how to improve their non-existent institutions instead of being incompetent. What stands out to me is seeing NE's poverty level is in line with Ethiopia where the latter is being propped up with billions of dollars of aid every year. Once we stabilize we have to avoid the scenario of letting our wealth being concentrated in the hands of the few wealthy elites, and that can only happen if we replicate the success seen in NE across the country.

The SFG needs to tackle the high amount of inequality faced by the internally displaced somalis in their next budget. They have to be the safety for the poorest of the poor, and households who don't have anyone in the diaspora to rely on.
 

MadNomad

As i live and breathe
It is also worth to point out that NW receives less remittances than NE with NW rural having the lowest incidence of receiving remittances (excl IDP's):

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In addition, I also totted up the population figures and found that percentage-wise, SL has a larger rural base (21.6%) than PL (15.8%) (I excluded Sanaag & Sool regions in my calculations since control is ambiguous at best).

Remittances are a major influence in several indicators (perhaps more so than governance) according to the World Bank survey too:

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Good points. Although NW urban areas seem to be doing much worse than NE urban areas, even though they both receive the same amount of remittance. Which shows that good governance is important as well.
 

Yonis

Puntland Youth Organiser
FKD Visionary
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Good points. Although NW urban areas seem to be doing much worse than NE urban areas, even though they both receive the same amount of remittance. Which shows that good governance is important as well.
Somaliland receive a lot more remittance annually than Puntland, and their foreign aid is also more than Puntland
 

MadNomad

As i live and breathe
Somaliland receive a lot more remittance annually than Puntland, and their foreign aid is also more than Puntland
That so? Corruption rearing its ugly head, as per usual. Let's hope that the people of Somaliland vote for better leaders then.
 

Sophisticate

Sultana of Samaroon
Staff Member
Puntland shows there is value in focusing inwardly on your gobol. They also practice walaalnimo better between themselves. Take note of this, Somaliland. You're cheaping out on remittance by dodging calls from relatives in need, is partly to blame. That and your political chickenheadness.


In Somaliland, politicians are near-sighted. Qabil and seeking nationhood is used to disguise their extreme self-interest. Awdal is somewhat better than other parts of Somaliland, despite pennies in resource allocation (5% of their budget).:manny: The homies from P-land have demonstrated the benefits of tribal solidarity and greater ideological uniformity. We just need to start beating some stingy hands into forking over a lot more cash - Dugsi Style. Some people need as much ajar as they can get for their cheapness, tuuging and doqonimo. :pachah1:
 

Duchess

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Puntlandspot's reaction to the data that validates their beliefs


On a serious note, the leaders of the conflict-ridden federal states need to be taking more flights to Garowe to learn how to improve their non-existent institutions instead of being incompetent. What stands out to me is seeing NE's poverty level is in line with Ethiopia where the latter is being propped up with billions of dollars of aid every year. Once we stabilize we have to avoid the scenario of letting our wealth being concentrated in the hands of the few wealthy elites, and that can only happen if we replicate the success seen in NE across the country.

The SFG needs to tackle the high amount of inequality faced by the internally displaced somalis in their next budget. They have to be the safety for the poorest of the poor, and households who don't have anyone in the diaspora to rely on.
This is nothing new. A UN report from 2002 showed that IDPs in Bosaso had a higher standard of living than urban residents of Hargeisa.

In comparison to Hargeisa, Bosasso residents enjoy a higher standard of living if we compare average daily incomes. While urban residents of Hargeisa earn, on average, about $1 a day, Bosasso residents earn over $4. Naturally, with respect to Bosasso, IDPs earnings are far lower. Most IDP households in Bosasso earn a daily wage of a little over a $1, which is more than 50percent, more than most returnee/IDP families living in and around Hargeisa.
https://reliefweb.int/report/somalia/internally-displaced-persons-combined-report-somalia

:gaasdrink:
 

Abdalla

Medical specialist in diagnosing Majeerteentitis
Prof.Dr.Eng.
VIP
It is also worth to point out that NW receives less remittances than NE with NW rural having the lowest incidence of receiving remittances (excl IDP's):

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In addition, I also totted up the population figures and found that percentage-wise, SL has a larger rural base (21.6%) than PL (15.8%) (I excluded Sanaag & Sool regions in my calculations since control is ambiguous at best).

Remittances are a major influence in several indicators (perhaps more so than governance) according to the World Bank survey too:

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What strikes me is the complete different mechanism for remittance recipients. In NE the rural area's have the most remittance incidence and in NW it's the urban regions that receive the most remittance. Very interesting. In terms of urban remittance recipients is about the same, with NW getting a percentage more than NE.

Another interesting conclusion is that the per capita value of remittance in the NW regions is nearly the same for both rural and urban area's. Which could mean that the cost of living is about the same in miyi and magaalo :faysalwtf:

The poor receive less remittances than the non-poor. NE is heading the right direction by sending more remittances to the rural regions which are poorer than the urban regions.
 
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Thegoodshepherd

Galkacyo iyo Calula dhexdood
Staff Member
@Abdalla another explanation for the relative good position of rural people in Puntland is that the poorer people who lost their livestock have urbanized. Those that remain in rural areas may be the better off people who were able to weather the previous droughts.
 
A lot of Somalilanders are brain-dead for the most part. I realized that when I saw tuulos
made of shacks and mud huts like it is 1800 Africa. They can simply get a brick making
machine from Alibaba which costs as little as $1000 and make brick buildings in every
village with the abundance of sand in Somaliland.


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Naaya I am more Somalilander than you however I don't walk on eggshells I tell it like it is. It is called tough love.
Tough love kulaha. I reckon it's a case of love-hate relationship. I understand, u being mixed & all. Oh and don't disrespect my gabooye people, we're more lander than u.
 

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