How trustable are Fatwas? And how many are based on Politics instead of Islam?

They take their rabbis and their monks for their lords apart from Allah, and also the Messiah, son of Mary, whereas they were commanded to worship none but the One True God. There is no god but He. Exalted be He above those whom they associate with Him in His Divinity.
Rabbinical law superseded god’s law
The only use for fatwas are for modern inventions physical/ideological which conceal sin and war. Fatwas are used for political power (iran), there needs to be checks and balances in the way of scholarly oversight and for these scholars not seek power for themselves.

The “car” fatwa by ibn baz is to limit free-mixing, all gas stations/car washes/mechanics are operated by men and for women to drive cars they must use these amenities. There’s obvious work arounds but in the sheikh’s opinion the fitna created surpasses it.

Op’s attempt at delegitimising the salafi creed, like other detractors, focuses on the aesthetic and not the actual context of the dogma. You will never see genuine critique of the main bodies of text, like kitab-at-tawhid, as it will show the layman how fallacious their beliefs really are. Explosive quttubists are not salafi, nor did the advent of the nation state birth the salafi movement - it is instead the natural progression from harbouring cultural superstitions to taqwa and tawwakul, from worshiping and fearing men to worshiping the lord all mighty (alone), from having ignorance of the faith to understanding and practising it.

I don’t want to say sufi’s worship and call upon the dead, but they do “lol”. They’ve perpetuated an aurora of cleanliness, asceticism and intellectualism but no amount of airbrushing can hide the fact that they’ve set up partners with allah and play with magic.

 
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Khaem

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Arabs ain’t do 99% of those stuff, the guy who made algebra was Persian.
Oh yeah I did hear that most of the Islamic golden age could be attributed to persians and other nations outside the Arabian gulf.

It seems like that arabs just unified the Semetic & greater middle east into a single cultural unit/ civilization and then the others decided to do the work. Although the Arabians did have some good scholars.
 
Oh yeah I did hear that most of the Islamic golden age could be attributed to persians and other nations outside the Arabian gulf.

It seems like that arabs just unified the Semetic & greater middle east into a single cultural unit/ civilization and then the others decided to do the work. Although the Arabians did have some good scholars.
most of the acheivements weren't even from arabia originally. even scholars like sahih al bukhari wasnt even arab
 

Omar del Sur

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I mean I have critiques of it

come and refute the book lol.... it is impossible to really refute kitab at-tawheed... I saw someone once say there is one weak hadith... ok, I can accept that this might be true, I'm not sure that specific hadith is weak or not... but the book overall is impossible to refute
 
come and refute the book lol.... it is impossible to really refute kitab at-tawheed... I saw someone once say there is one weak hadith... ok, I can accept that this might be true, I'm not sure that specific hadith is weak or not... but the book overall is impossible to refute
There are half a dozen weak hadiths, out of 60+, it doesn’t take away from the fact that allah mentions the kufr of tawhid a rubabiya a countless number of times in the quran- something sufis make halal for themselves.
 

Omar del Sur

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There are half a dozen weak hadiths, out of 60+, it doesn’t take away from the fact that allah mentions the kufr of tawhid a rubabiya a countless number of times in the quran- something sufis make halal for themselves.

Of all the people who talk against "Wahhabism", I think only a small minority have ever actually read the Sheikh's books. I've been waiting for years and years for the "anti-Wahhabi" people to come with a solid argument and the solid argument is like a kid's father that goes to the store "to get milk"... and then never appears. the solid argument never shows up because it doesn't exist. can you imagine? people can spend their entire lives hating "wahhabism", live for decades like that, eventually die like that- without having an actual solid argument. their idea of a solid argument is a People Magazine gossip column about Arab royals. their idea of a scholar is some guy marching next to a Christian priestess with a rainbow flag. they are depriving their own selves.
 
Of all the people who talk against "Wahhabism", I think only a small minority have ever actually read the Sheikh's books. I've been waiting for years and years for the "anti-Wahhabi" people to come with a solid argument and the solid argument is like a kid's father that goes to the store "to get milk"... and then never appears. the solid argument never shows up because it doesn't exist. can you imagine? people can spend their entire lives hating "wahhabism", live for decades like that, eventually die like that- without having an actual solid argument. their idea of a solid argument is a People Magazine gossip column about Arab royals. their idea of a scholar is some guy marching next to a Christian priestess with a rainbow flag. they are depriving their own selves.
Wallahi I was lulled into blindly hating salafis, the 3 main points they make against them is “hatred” of culture, terrorism and support of colonial rule/dismantling the ottoman empire.

Culture~
Duplicitous emotionally charged argument promulgated by sufis who cling onto pre-islamic religious practices in pursuit of karamaat, you see this in somali tariqas with their use of wagar/dagax. When ever someone points this out they retort “why are you criticising my cultural traditions” - this should sound familiar: “No! We ˹only˺ follow what we found our forefathers practicing”.

Terrorism~
-isma’il sufis an order of assassins
-iran/iraq war inspired sayyid qutub: the iranians used children to walk across minefields, sacrificing their lives so the soldiers could pass through the fields and rout out the enemy. This inspired qutub and the islamist organisations which he ideologically sired.
Most sufis are not assassins and the vast majority salafis do not declare international jihad, the salafi-jihadi pipeline is a pipe-dream, growing a beard and wearing a thobe does not make one a salafi, unlike sufis and their stringent dress-codes, non-revealing dress does not delineate creed.

Colonial rule/ottoman empire~
A claim has been made by the student of the author of the Hempher diaries that it is a forgery and that this sheikh was a shi’ite, wether or not it was true is besides the point, the disease of ethnic nationalism was the key weapon used in the break up of caliphate, creating rifts throughout the muslim world.
 
There are half a dozen weak hadiths, out of 60+, it doesn’t take away from the fact that allah mentions the kufr of tawhid a rubabiya a countless number of times in the quran- something sufis make halal for themselves.
*kufr of only having tawhid ar rubabiya.
 

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