How Rwanda benefited from Somalia

[Nilotic]

hd was too nice. let the bottom of the barrel waste fester. what you do is wipe them out like cockroaches quickly or you get an infestation.

He also failed to groom his sons into taking the reigns Maslax and co were busy living the life lol. Haffez Assad trained his son Bashar in leadership and sent him to Britain to be groomed. He was savage and killed 50k in the rebellion of Homs. Thats why his son survives today

These are all bad things.

Why should a Nation in the modern era accept dynastic rule?

 

[reer]

These are all bad things.

Why should a Nation in the modern era accept dynastic rule?

1885 to today. history writes itself.
british rule - brute force - 40-75 years
italian rule - brute force - 35-75 years
dervish movement - brute force - 21 years
democracy - civilian - 9 years - overthrown swiftly in a coup
revolutionary government - brute force - 21 years
warlordism - brute force - 15 years

democracy is un-somali. monopoly over violence and clan monarchy and brute force are what somalis know.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@YSD33

Hawadle is similar to Warsangeli if not smaller cuz hiiraan ma wada buuxiyan as it's highly mixed their portion isn't larger the Badhan-Dhahar and all the villages up to Yubbe. Dhulos is way larger then ppl give credit for. From southern togdheer to sool to southern sanaag plus their in DDSI isn't anything to scoff at.

Marehan has Gedo n Abudwaq their similar to HG. I only assigned abgaal to group A because heaps of Somalis say their large but I doubt it highly. They are 1 to 1.5 million in Hamar and middle shabelle is about 500k. That's 1.5 to 2 million with a little from ceeldheer. But I still accepted their group A.

 

[Odayga_Jabuuti]

Blaming siad barre for the current state of Somalia is just a lame excuse.
The problema of Somalia Statte after we lost the '77 War, Siad did many mistake but how can you blame a guy who left Somalia in 1992 and died in 1995? The opposition had 30 years to get their shit together and form a new government , instead they decided to destroy the country.
Is it Siad fault that abgaal and HG started killing each other as soon as they conquered Xamar? Is it Siad's fault that moryaans created AS and several other wahabi terrorist groups? The answer is clearly no.
Even if you want to blame Siad for creating the conditions that led to the collapse of Somalia you have countless examples in Africa of countries that experienced dictaroships and war but eventually got their shit together.

He was not the main reason why the war happened but he disrupted a stable country with a stable government. So he is still part of the problem, and let's not even talk about his wars that caused an economic crisis that led to the civil war.

 

[Kanan]

1885 to today. history writes itself.
british rule - brute force - 40-75 years
italian rule - brute force - 35-75 years
dervish movement - brute force - 21 years
democracy - civilian - 9 years - overthrown swiftly in a coup
revolutionary government - brute force - 21 years
warlordism - brute force - 15 years

democracy is un-somali. monopoly over violence and clan monarchy and brute force are what somalis know.

Madobe Jubaland government - 10 years and going - brute force.


Practice what you preach and bend the knee in Kismayo.

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[repo]

For the first time in 30 years Somalia is about to have a clear winner (Farmaajo) When he wins and MM decide to get a few moriyaan in the capital i urge the somali government not to listen to any ceasefire or a brokered deal by the west. We need a clear winner to move on.

Farmaajo can't travel outside Mogadishu with a car, how exactly is he winning and what is he winning?

 

[Bariire]

Dhulos and MX who have never led a state are in group B but not xawaadle who have. I get Mx getting a pass since they have the presidency but dhulbahante should be lower and swapped with XL

nigga are you satisfied with the ranks the madman osman assigned , as him being above everyone as first?.... you should be first and nothing else.

kulaha the madman osman mjs are first looool, so deluded, fock him and his faan rank.

 

[Macawisley]

Nacala futadada ku yaale, u lying piece of b22n. 4.5 is empowering langaabs only who don't have the muscle in the nation to change shit. Murusade having same seats as abgaal is fair to you? or marehan having more seats then majerten when u only live in gedo n abudwaq. Wat sort of bullshit is 4.5. There is no HAWIYE, NO DAROD NO DIR. Everyone operates as separate clans. The best system would be to categorize somali clans as

Group A Clans. MJ n Abgaal. Assign same quota
Group B Clans. HG, Marehan, Dhulos, Isaaq, Rahanwayn, Ogaden. Assign same quota
Group C Clans. Hawadle, Murusade, Leelkase, Warsangeli. Assign same quota
Group D Clans. Gaaljacel, Dashishe, Awrtable, Benadiri, Arab Salax, Bimaal, Sheikhaal. Assign same quota

This is a far more realistic power sharing untill a proper census is done. As PL we should've rejected ARTA power-sharing model and presented the 'real model' of sub clan power sharing not tribal sharing.

If power was shared like that, that's exactly the true set up of Somalia clan power dynamics or it's very close to it. 4.5 just lumps darod, hawiye, dir, digil iyo mirifle, and minorities when there is no such thing on the ground.

This 4.5 disaster was done merely by Ismacil Geele to assign more power to HAG/DIR thru irirism. I mean Issa who don't even have a tuulo but live half of zaylac has like 10 seats in the parliament of Somalia, that was his agenda only. We must scrap 4.5 not act stupid and say it's the best system.

la ilaha how did i miss this

I dont know which XL nigga tickled your girl but the cuqdad just shows

 

[Calaf]

He also failed to groom his sons into taking the reigns Maslax and co were busy living the life lol. Haffez Assad trained his son Bashar in leadership and sent him to Britain to be groomed. He was savage and killed 50k in the rebellion of Homs. Thats why his son survives today

Not Bashar, Bashar wasn't even expected to become president, just a eye doctor in London. It was Bassel who was well groomed, before he died in a crash