@Omar del Sur I thought philosophy is haram & goes against the quran and sunnah?
I already explained about philosophy:
"Islam is not an anti-rational decision so i really don't get why people fear philosophy."
oh so Ibn Taymiyyah and those of us who don't want Islam to get mixed with philosophy... we "fear philosophy"... we are philosophyphobes? I think it's funny that you use the same rhetorical gimmick as gay activists but anyways...
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i don't see any problem with mixing philosophy with the religion...
Mixing rationality/philosophy with the deen is what got as proofs for God's existence, what to do in the case of apparent conflict between reason and the literal meaning of scripture, etc."
Ok, there is a gimmick that people who try to push this stuff do- which is they try to conflate reason/reasoning with philosophy. It's something like this:
A- "Philosophy just means reason, bro"
B- Islam is not anti-reason
C- Therefore it is acceptable to mix Islam with Aristotle
This actually is the fallacy of non sequitur. This whole line of reasoning is based on playing a game with language.
Anyways, I don't think it's proper to conflate philosophy with reason. The word is Greek and originally was referring specifically to Ancient Greek philosophy.
But for sake of argument, let's say one definition of philosophy is simply identical to "reason".
Ok but philosophy is also used in another sense which refers to a body of tradition- the Western philosophical tradition (Socrates, Kant, etc.) in Western context or figures like Lao Tzu and Confucius if we're talking about Eastern philosophy.
Now for sake of simplicity, let's throw out Eastern philosophy- I don't think anyone here is a Confucian.
If by "philosophy" you just mean reason- there is no objection to reason as long as it is line with Quran and Sunnah. But if what you are referring to would include "the Western philosophical tradition"- there is no way this is acceptable.
If we are having a discussion on how to correctly interpret a verse of the Quran- you think we should refer to Aristotle and Kant? When it comes to sharia we should refer to Nieztsche? That would be absurd.
No way should Islam be mixed with the Western philosophical tradition- do you agree?