How did PL Government overcome Al-Shabaab & did PSF play a huge factor in achieving that?

In my opinion I believe we should get assistance from Ethiopia to deal with the al kabab problem. We should give them the freedom to release a lot of troops within Somalia building more bases and they should carry out military operations until Somalia is free from al kabab. In return we will give them access to the ports of Barawa, Kismaayo, Marka And Hobyo. This was actually the plan of the previous president which I think is a pretty good Idea.
How many foreigners do you southerners want in your land ?
Instead of fighting each other and doing booto ,why can't you clean your villages ?
 

bidenkulaha

GalYare
How many foreigners do you southerners want in your land ?
Instead of fighting each other and doing booto ,why can't you clean your villages ?
No one wants to die for such a cause. Using shisheye forces has always been preferable.

We don’t really need a strong national army if we can use outside forces (therefore save money and not worry about a strong national army being used against you).

Personally I believe there’s nothing wrong with becoming an American dependent security state like the Gulf nations. But we need a brave Somali President to sell the idea to the nation. America can act as our airforce, artillery/heavy weaponry and we can use Somali infantry for menial tasks like clearing out a village. We should also align all our foreign policy with America. Kicking out all anti-American states within Somalia. No deals with China/Russia/Iran etc. This way we can incentivise America to take on this role. All oil/resource deals with America and import American goods/products.

Ethiopia is a big no for me however. Unstable country that has far too much of an interest in a weaker Somalia
 
Most if not all from central galmudug region to the Kenyan border all population centers are either controled by Shabab directly or paying some sort of tax towards them .
 

Laagite

الداروودي
Al Shabab captured the town of Eldheere, 30 km (18 miles) south of Galmudug's capital Dhusamareb.

I will have a thread on AS occupation of Galmudug in a bit
 
No one wants to die for such a cause. Using shisheye forces has always been preferable.

We don’t really need a strong national army if we can use outside forces (therefore save money and not worry about a strong national army being used against you).

Personally I believe there’s nothing wrong with becoming an American dependent security state like the Gulf nations. But we need a brave Somali President to sell the idea to the nation. America can act as our airforce, artillery/heavy weaponry and we can use Somali infantry for menial tasks like clearing out a village. We should also align all our foreign policy with America. Kicking out all anti-American states within Somalia. No deals with China/Russia/Iran etc. This way we can incentivise America to take on this role. All oil/resource deals with America and import American goods/products.

Ethiopia is a big no for me however. Unstable country that has far too much of an interest in a weaker Somalia
These foreigners have been your ends over the last 15 plus years .not much have been achieved
 

bidenkulaha

GalYare
These foreigners have been your ends over the last 15 plus years .not much have been achieved
Somalia has improved in the last 15 years. It’s an actual liveable country finally.

Muqdisho is an economic powerhouse and the government’s budget is set to pass a billion for the first time since 1980s.

We however need to be more open for increased American involvement in energy, resource mining etc. Only then can we sustain a well paid military and police force to keep control of Shabaab areas.

Also there are too many extreme Muslims who claim any shisheeye being involved is haram and we should fight them.

Inshallah we can bring a more moderate and mainstream Islam to pacify the population through our education system.
 
No one wants to die for such a cause. Using shisheye forces has always been preferable.

We don’t really need a strong national army if we can use outside forces (therefore save money and not worry about a strong national army being used against you).

Personally I believe there’s nothing wrong with becoming an American dependent security state like the Gulf nations. But we need a brave Somali President to sell the idea to the nation. America can act as our airforce, artillery/heavy weaponry and we can use Somali infantry for menial tasks like clearing out a village. We should also align all our foreign policy with America. Kicking out all anti-American states within Somalia. No deals with China/Russia/Iran etc. This way we can incentivise America to take on this role. All oil/resource deals with America and import American goods/products.

Ethiopia is a big no for me however. Unstable country that has far too much of an interest in a weaker Somalia
That's basically like becoming the 52nd state of the USA. They will basically control Somalia and all of the politics. They will push their agendas and you will basically become marti in your own country. All the oil and other natural resources will be taken and you will be given pennies compared to its actual worth.

I rather prefer to work with Ethiopia due to if we want them out we can make them leave. When it comes to The US once they come in the country it's basically impossible to get rid of them plus they're gonna steal all our resources that we could of done private deals.

We need to build a national army based on nationalism and not qabiil. So if they're is a civil war they don't break up on qabiil lines and can safeguard the country
 

bidenkulaha

GalYare
That's basically like becoming the 52nd state of the USA. They will basically control Somalia and all of the politics. They will push their agendas and you will basically become marti in your own country. All the oil and other natural resources will be taken and you will be given pennies compared to its actual worth.

I rather prefer to work with Ethiopia due to if we want them out we can make them leave. When it comes to The US once they come in the country it's basically impossible to get rid of them plus they're gonna steal all our resources that we could of done private deals.
Absolutely which is why I support this. Opening ourselves up to American investment/private companies and having our resources be mined/invested in by them is a good way of keeping Somalia controlled by them.

Somalis are low IQ, we need to be micromanaged so we don’t once again become a dictatorship aligned with China or a terrorist state.

A prosperous Somalia as the 52nd state of America is my goal. Unlike 80% of countries in the world, we are resource rich and can be an energy powerhouse with the right investment. We already are a client state given America literally built the Federal Government of Somalia and our budget is dependent on them through their aid, IMF, World Bank and Europe.

We should hopefully push for this under HSM given his close working relationship with America. Hopefully the first of this will be oil deals with American companies and increased American involvement within the SNA. Danab should take over all Gorgor/Haramcad forces. Also join the Abraham Accords to give us more momentum in this regard.
 
Somalia has improved in the last 15 years. It’s an actual liveable country finally.

Muqdisho is an economic powerhouse and the government’s budget is set to pass a billion for the first time since 1980s.

We however need to be more open for increased American involvement in energy, resource mining etc. Only then can we sustain a well paid military and police force to keep control of Shabaab areas.

Also there are too many extreme Muslims who claim any shisheeye being involved is haram and we should fight them.

Inshallah we can bring a more moderate and mainstream Islam to pacify the population through our education system.
Don't put the blame on others not many are against American involvement they have always been there . Its the lack of action from these over 30.000 foreigners on the ground.
 

bidenkulaha

GalYare
Don't put the blame on others not many are against American involvement they have always been there . Its the lack of action from these over 30.000 foreigners on the ground .
Shabaab convinces many Somali Muslims to fight the ‘kufar’ shisheye forces. It’s a major recruiting tool. As well as forced conscription and wages to the unemployed poor.

I don’t support the stay of AMISOM. Africans are just as low IQ as Somalis and are shitscared of Shabaab given their lack of ability to think beyond camping in a base.

We need a similar security arrangement as America has with Saudi, Qatar etc where they have 10s of thousands of American troops training Saudi forces, providing air and intelligence support.
 
In my opinion I believe we should get assistance from Ethiopia to deal with the al kabab problem. We should give them the freedom to release a lot of troops within Somalia building more bases and they should carry out military operations until Somalia is free from al kabab. In return we will give them access to the ports of Barawa, Kismaayo, Marka And Hobyo. This was actually the plan of the previous president which I think is a pretty good Idea.

no Dalalos just because your uncle lost does not mean we should sell Somalis future to habashi

they are a 1000 year old enemy of Somalis

if you love Ethiopians so much. Just see how Marehan i’ve been forcefully assimilated by Oromo and forced to speak their language

langabs wish to sell Somalia’s future to shisheye because they are bitter their yar yar Adeer lost the election

thus is aqli Mx. We lost so we will sell sofuture down the drain

sim should be to kick all foreigners out of Somalis. Not give them ports

move to adis ababa if you love raw meat so much
 
No one wants to die for such a cause. Using shisheye forces has always been preferable.
What a cowardly thing to say.

If I was sitting in Qardho one day enjoying my isbarmuto and heard AS captured Iskushuban wallahi I would be ready to fight and die. There's no greater honor than defending your land and your people which include women and children.

It's the same thing if an intruder broke in to your house, you have to step up and be ready to sacrifice everything to protect your family.
 
What a cowardly thing to say.

If I was sitting in Qardho one day enjoying my isbarmuto and heard AS captured Iskushuban wallahi I would be ready to fight and die. There's no greater honor than defending your land and your people which include woman and children.

It's the same thing if an intruder broke in to your house, you have to step up and be ready to sacrifice everything to protect your family.
Waa yaab walle, @bidenkulaha doesnt see anything wrong with that. You know most of these places in the south you will see less than 50 kebabis holding a village/town
 
What a cowardly thing to say.

If I was sitting in Qardho one day enjoying my isbarmuto and heard AS captured Iskushuban wallahi I would be ready to fight and die. There's no greater honor than defending your land and your people which include women and children.

It's the same thing if an intruder broke in to your house, you have to step up and be ready to sacrifice everything to protect your family.
If an intruder broke into his house he will wait for amisom to save him
 

bidenkulaha

GalYare
Bro these kids are a waste. Every man has to secure his region, no ones gonna save you.
As long as we stay an American client state, they will have an interest in a stable Somalia. Hopefully we start producing resources and sell them to America to reinforce that partnership.
 
Wariya I ain’t giving up my life for a deadbeat country. Am I solider? No. Is it my town that I live? No.

If it was Dhusamareb/Guriceel you might have a point but I am not fighting AS across the south where I do not live or have roots in.

The reason I prefer American military support is because then they can babysit the Somali National Army should it ever get too strong.
You guys are ready when it comes to clan wars but not fighting terrorists. Indocadde, Muse Sudi, Qeybdiid just to name a few all have militias. The problem is not lack of men but it seems that many groups are benefiting from the status quo.
 

bidenkulaha

GalYare
You guys are ready when it comes to clan wars but not fighting terrorists. Indocadde, Muse Sudi, Qeybdiid just to name a few all have militias. The problem is not lack of men but it seems that many groups are benefiting from the status quo.
Those forces are busy controlling the Shabelles from Shabaab so how about show some respect. Those you insult are also the only reason Muqdisho isn’t under Shabaab control.

We can’t be responsible for every district in the South.
 
Galmudug isn’t high density, multi ethnic or mountainous. It’s flat land like Puntland.
Bro how y'all say puntland is flat

Are y'all certain you're from somaliyee
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