Harla Tribe, Ancestors of The Horn

[NoName]

Just like chimps aren't the ancestors of humans because they remained primitive.

I've no idea what this thread is about but I'm curious as to what this bit means.

 

[MARAQ DIGAAG]

Grant you are just spouting the usual nonsense you came stumbled across on Google .one minute the Bantus are apparently the natives of Somalia ,then next you claim the Somalis are usurpers and that they took the land from some unknown Jews .now carawello was a jew based on some internet conjecture and hearsay ?you are full of rubbish ,mate .

 

[Grant]

Arsene,

You haven't been paying attention.

The Book of the Zanj is a fraud, which means the Bantu expansion never reached even southern Somalia. The Gosha and Mushunguli descend from slaves mostly bought from the Omani/Zanzibaris after 1825. The natives never spoke Bantu languages and include the Madhibaan and Eyle for sure and probably the Shidle, Shabelli, Gobweyn, Galgala, etc. The rubbish is the north to south migration claim with the Arab genealogy. Samaales only arrived at the Red Sea coast in the first century AD and only grew in numbers sufficient to take control of the Hargeisa area in the 13th century. The Hawiyye arrived at the Indian ocean coast earlier, by about 1100 AD, coming from the southern Ogaden. But, prior to the Common Era, the Samaale and Oromo were both just Southeastern Cushites speaking the same language. They only separated at the Kenya/Somali border area.

If the Yibir/Tumaal group comes from the Falasha, which is being argued with some evidence, then they are not native either, and would only go back to Gudit's time.

We need more DNA work, and a more careful reading of the research that is available.

 

[Cadmus]

Grant you are just spouting the usual nonsense you came stumbled across on Google .one minute the Bantus are apparently the natives of Somalia ,then next you claim the Somalis are usurpers and that they took the land from some unknown Jews .now carawello was a jew based on some internet conjecture and hearsay ?you are full of rubbish ,mate .

hahahaha, tell him!

It becomes comical when you look at popeye and uncle grant's passionate desire to disinherit Somalis from their ancient cultures. People such as these are the "academic guard" of the myth that Somalis don't have any ancient culture. It serves both cadaan and habashi strategic interests to hide our history.

 

[Cadmus]

Arawelo was a harla queen, whats next adal was also a hebrew empire? Was it the falasha who invaded ethiopia and had to be booted out by the portguese? She is known as a non christian queen in the 10th century, the jewish conspiracy is very recent because european historians want to discredit muslim achievements in the region.

Axum fell because of the rise of islamic power, muslims have always been the majority in the horn of africa but didn’t see christian ehiopians as a threat until europeans began meddling in horn affairs. In the 10th century they had already established a sultanate of shewa with a queen called badit, after this axum would cease to exist."ara" in rawelo may have derived from harla and welo meant she ruled axum

Even historians such as Ceruli have pointed out the existence of this queen http://www.dacb.org/stories/ethiopia/gudit_.html

Shewa muslim rulers
Queen Badit
Harba'ir
Malasmai
Husayn

https://books.google.ca/books?id=NWNTfztz5KoC&pg=PA365&dq=sultanate+of+shewa+badit&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiH6uKqvYTQAhUJMyYKHbSgDNIQ6AEIHTAA#v=onepage&q=sultanate of shewa badit&f=false

Zaila district commisioner confirms arawelo was queen of the harla

http://web.archive.org/web/20010627221704/http://www.anaserve.com/~mbali/letter20.htm

I looked at your link. The author is:.....wait for it....

QUEEN ARAWEILO

By Major Henry Rayne
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1923_New_Year_Honours#Officer_of_the_Order_of_the_British_Empire_.28OBE.29

• Major Henry Rayne, MBE, MC, District Commissioner in Somaliland.

This is the guy, that you choose to use as evidence to rewrite thousands of years of our history?

Go home habashi. You've defeated your own argument.

 

[osman]

Harla were giants they were the Aad people. Ad+el = god is eternal in names meaning website https://www.thinkbabynames.com/meaning/0/Adel. Also harari are rumored to be the davidic bloodline and then you have sheekhaal which end in al or el. The Portuguese and Abyssinia attacked and the west got their kjv Bible at same time what a coincidence also remember that region was called land of punt god’s land. Also they have e m123 same as the Druze who are closet match to the shroud of Turin

 

[osman]

Did you guys know Mecca was originally called Becca in Petra Jordan and the that a lot of Hadith has been infiltrated by Zoroastrian Jews

 

[osman]

What is Harla?

Harla were a Hamitic pagan tribe that existed in the Horn of Africa. They would accept Islam through their port Zaila and the sahaba settled in Harla domain after Axum.

When did the Harla exist?

Harla existed probably in ancient antiquity until atleast, the 16th century Adal wars, defeat by a combined portugese, abyssinian army. Harla kingdom was situatede between Harar & Dire Dawa with chinese coins recently found dating back to 13th century

Who were the Harla?

Harari people (speak Harla language (partially assimilated by semites arabs & argobba

Zay people near lake zway (still speak a corrupted harari-harla & assimilated by gura tribes)

Silte people (speak a corrupted Harari-Harla) assimilated by gura tribe)

Reer hamar (reportedly speak a corrupt dialect resembling harla. Assimilated by various tribes persian, arab, somali)

Sheekhal somali clan (claim descent from Harar Arab Sheikh Aw Abadir) (assimilated by somali)

Abdirahman Jabarti, Darod Sub clans Harti, etc inhabiting puntland, ogaden & various other regions (assimilated by somali)

Other Somali clans such as Dir, Issaq, Issa etc all agree that Harla were in the area, they inhabited and intermarried with them.

Other Ethiopian and Eritrean tribes also have connections.

Where were the Harla?

Harla were found throughout the Horn of Africa. Harla territory stretched from Shewa to the edge of puntland including the southern portions such as Mogadishu. Arawelo known in texts as Badit daughter of maya's campaigns helped expand Harla territory to eritrea and ultimately destroy the Axum Empire, which was a pyrrhic victory. Leftover Axumite followers centuries later under the Emperor Amda Seyon were able to regroup and take back Axum and most of the Harla lands but they didn’t bother administrating the eastern and southern front directly, instead Abyssinians wanted tax paid to them.

Imam Mahfuz Emir of Harar and defacto leader of Adal kingdom refused to pay tribute and wanted to raid lost Harla lands in the west. Mahfuz killed Emperor Eskender and his successor Na'od but refused to rule the Habesha, instead remained at Zaila. Mahfuz's refusal could be because of the Hadith of the Prophet Muhammad (SAW) ordering muslims to leave the Habesha alone as long as they don’t bother you.

Emperor Dawit 2 would take the throne and kill Mahfuz, throwing Adal into a civil war. Until Imam Ahmed married Mahfuz's daughter Del Wanbera, and began a conquest to reconquer Ethiopia on behalf of Harla with Somali clans, inorder to avenge Mahfuz's death. After nearly 20 years of occupation, Imam lost a crucial battle against the Portugese and his army booted out of Abyssinia. Emperror Gelawdewos attempted to capture eastern harla-somali lands but was killed near Harar.

Defeated Harla and Adal now faced the newly arrived pagan gala (oromo) tribes and severe drought which would diminish their numbers. The walls constructed in Harar, halted total extinction of the descendants of harla, the harari. The isolated islands of lake zway produced a similar result.

Harla terms

Zay means "coastline" in the Harla language which would be the etymology behind Zayla. The terminology behind Zay people would thus be people of the coast. Harar is also called Gay meaning town in Harla.

Mogadishu or Muq-dish means Humid-ground in Harla,

***if readers can obtain other info on Harla from elders, please share it here.

View attachment 6938
@Knowthyself @Canuck @Zak Jingo @Thegoodshepherd References available upon request

 

[Xanaaq]

The Harla arent my ancestors.

 

[osman]

The Harla arent my ancestors.

Kushitic as whole are real Hebrews

 

[osman]

The Harla arent my ancestors.

Remember Nilotic are biblical Cushitic