Hardly any settlements along the banks of the Jubba river

[Prince of Lasanod]

So I decided to go on Google Earth and follow the Jubba river.

Let's start from Luuq. They are surrounded by a river, but it's a desert and there are hardly any farms. They could easily flood the place, so why are they so unproductive?

Next settlement along the river is Buurdhuubo. Very small, no use of the river. So for 45 miles, this was the first settlement.

Baardhere is the next closest settlement, second largest town in JL after Kismaayo. Lots of farms. Between Luuq to Baardhere, which is over 100 miles, there was only one settlement. Shocking.

No more settlements in Gedo along the banks of Jubba river.

 

[XamarCade]

Subxanallah Luuq is freaking gold mine, completely surrounded by water.

 

[Deactivated]

Farming is a major challenge in Jubbaland.

Any Somali can buy a farm there regardless of tribe.

There are two major issues that affect output costs in Jubba farming:

1. Access to roads.
2. Access to power.

Bardere has an airstrip near it, but it's not practical to fly out fruits and veggies from there to Mogadishu.

There's a Tullo called Yoontoy and it's easier to access Kismayo from and get supplies.

There's no John Deere maintenance facilities in Jubbavalley. Agro maintenance and input services are
the most underrated niches in Jubbavalley

 

[Prince of Lasanod]

Somali people don't like living next to water. We're nomadic people that prefer to live in arid dessert lands. That's why there's barely any cities on or near the coastline even though we have the longest coast in Africa.

What do you mean there are barely any cities on the coastline?

Our capital is on the coast, Kismaayo is on the coast, Berbera is on the coast, Bosaso is on the coast etc.

 

[Prince of Lasanod]

Farming is a major challenge in Jubbaland.

Any Somali can buy a farm there regardless of tribe.

There are two major issues that affect output costs in Jubba farming:

1. Access to roads.
2. Access to power.

Bardere has an airstrip near it, but it's not practical to fly out fruits and veggies from there to Mogadishu.

There's a Tullo called Yoontoy and it's easier to access Kismayo from and get supplies.

There's no John Deere maintenance facilities in Jubbavalley. Agro maintenance and input services are
the most underrated niches in Jubbavalley

What if I want to establish my own town along the banks of the Jubba river?

Like here:

Who would I buy land from since nobody lives here, and it is essentially empty?

What about the Bantus? They don't even purchase their land or their farms, 99 % of them are squatters.

Somalia is confusing.

 

[XamarCade]

What if I want to establish my own town along the banks of the Jubba river?

Like here:

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Who would I buy land from since nobody lives here, and it is essentially empty?

What about the Bantus? They don't even purchase their land or their farms, 99 % of them are squatters.

Somalia is confusing.

Yeah, there needs to be order on how to farm, ppl are taking up huge spaces for basically nothing and they produce nothing

 

[Prince of Lasanod]

Yeah, there needs to be order on how to farm, ppl are taking up huge spaces for basically nothing and they produce nothing

The reason why the Bantu population is growing so high is because they live in the most fertile land in Somalia between Jamaame and Jilib. They are able to have between 15-20 babies and they are squatting on land they haven't payed for wallahi. They are subsistence farmers as well and don't produce f*ck all.

If you don't have any legal documents then your farm should be confiscated.

 

[Deactivated]

What if I want to establish my own town along the banks of the Jubba river?

Like here:

View attachment 15542

Who would I buy land from since nobody lives here, and it is essentially empty?

What about the Bantus? They don't even purchase their land or their farms, 99 % of them are squatters.

Somalia is confusing.

Bantus are Somali. If Somalis don't want to work the land with sweat and others produce on it than it's a classic example of "Somali Laziness".

Only if a Somali owned private equity business invests in an Agro City that has maintenance factories, access to seeds, solar panels and fuel tanks than it can that work.

Somali Bantus aren't the problem. It's access to roads, equipment and capital assets are the main issues.

 

[Deactivated]

The reason why the Bantu population is growing so high is because they live in the most fertile land in Somalia between Jamaame and Jilib. They are able to have between 15-20 babies and they are squatting on land they haven't payed for wallahi. They are subsistence farmers as well and don't produce f*ck all.

If you don't have any legal documents then your farm should be confiscated.

Jubbavalley is the size of Montana and North Dakota combined. Thinking Bantus are your problem can cloud your judgement and put you in a dark place when it comes to development.

I have never asked about the Bantus when I went to Jubbavalley. Everyone there is happy and only want to be treated as equals.

Farmers in from all tribes are in Jubbavalley. They want customers not qabilstomers.

 

[Prince of Lasanod]

Jubbavalley is the size of Montana and North Dakota combined. Thinking Bantus are your problem can cloud your judgement and put you in a dark place when it comes to development.

I have never asked about the Bantus when I went to Jubbavalley. Everyone there is happy and only want to be treated as equals.

Farmers in from all tribes are in Jubbavalley. They want customers not qabilstomers.

You haven't answered my question sxb, it seems you've gone on a rant for 2 posts for some odd reason. The Bantus don't contribute much to the economy since they are subsistence farmers (i.e only for themselves and their family). So they are sitting on prime farming land benefiting none other than themselves. The ones in Jubba are the ones that were brought by the Italians mostly, so they still retain their culture and hold a deep resentment against ethnic Somalis.

Who do you purchase land from in areas far from any settlements?

 

[bluebird]

the entire south is just depressing. it's like they have no government (whoever said mayor of maqdisho was right), no paved roads, no one seems to know how to use the land, and alshabaab just won't leave them alone. it wouldn't matter if a thousand rivers ran through there

 

[Prince of Lasanod]

the entire south is just depressing. it's like they have no government (whoever said mayor of maqdisho was right), no paved roads, no one seems to know how to use the land, and alshabaab just won't leave them alone. it wouldn't matter if a thousand rivers ran through there

To me, the entire north is depressing. Koonfur is blessed wallahi. If peace meant anything, then the majority of those who tahriib wouldn't be from Somaliland. Yet the most happiest in Africa is in the south.

 

[oday1kenobi]

Luuq is a historic settlement situated just inside the meander of the Juba river and due to its geographical position, luuq seems to have excellent natural defences which may have helped past Somali sultanates/rulers fend off the oromo migrations in the late middle-ages and decisively defeat the Abyssinians/Ethiopians in the 19th century.

Luuq reminds me of Durham, England which too is located within a meander and has given the town a defensive edge particularly against the Scotts.

 

[Deactivated]

You haven't answered my question sxb, it seems you've gone on a rant for 2 posts for some odd reason. The Bantus don't contribute much to the economy since they are subsistence farmers (i.e only for themselves and their family). So they are sitting on prime farming land benefiting none other than themselves. The ones in Jubba are the ones that were brought by the Italians mostly, so they still retain their culture and hold a deep resentment against ethnic Somalis.

Who do you purchase land from in areas far from any settlements?

I work with a consortium of brokers, and we purchase directly from Somalis and a few Bantu suppliers. Trust my when I say Bantus aren't the problem for farmers or settlement. Everyone is having the same challenges, instability, poor infrastructure and no access to quality inputs. I'm just confused as to why you are ranting about Bantus when there's much bigger diibato to deal with.

Nobody I know is concerned about Bantus in settlements along the Jubbavalley because most of the land is reserved for the government. If you want to buy plots just visit the Agro ministry in Mogadishu and they provide untitled and titled land for commercial use.

 

[bluebird]

To me, the entire north is depressing. Koonfur is blessed wallahi. If peace meant anything, then the majority of those who tahriib wouldn't be from Somaliland. Yet the most happiest in Africa is in the south.

They're just bored. but sland and pland could probably develop most of their cities within 30 years if they put a bit of effort into it . but the south has to recover from decades of poverty, war damage, and alshabaab/amisom.