If yoi want to talk about Daarood's origins then you gonna have to bring Arabic sourcesPosting a picture doesn't mean anything. Both of you retards aren't even on the main point after I debunked that.
Like I said. I read The original Futuh Al-Habasha: The Conquest of Abyssinia and it never stated such a thing. Only mentions of Habar Magaadle was they were part of Adal Sultanate and first army to join Ahmed Gurey.
@Karim I said link, you can easily direct me that page. There is no need for download so you lied again. Just show me a reference.
You bastards like to derail threads so if you going to play games then I have multiple terrible sources about Darood and put this thread into clan section since y'all ruined it. I mean I have sources that the ancestor of Darood was an Oromo slave? You don't see me posting that shit because I don't derail positive threads unlike you simpleton imbeciles.
Some sources say you guys are originally Habesha (Harla).
Some sources say Darood was a bastard that sought refuge in a Dir dominated territory.
I can go on and on.
Harar under Siege like its the middle ages
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Listen, I didn't insult any tribes here but this motherfucker pushed the wrong buttons so I brought sources too since he wouldn't provide a link but kept being an asshole and derailing this positive thread.
Lol @Karim brought a picture straight from the book in Arabic. We don't need translations.
It's not about that. It's about derailing this positive thread. He came out dissing other tribes for no reason so I responded by showing him some horrible sources I read about Darood. It's his fault, he shouldn't have started this shit.
I remember a passage from the book Pastoral Democracy regarding the looting of ships by Majeerteens after they were wrecked on the coast. Why not loot the possessions you've rightfully won after defeating an enemy?@Crow @Abdalla @Yonis @Thegoodshepherd @Sheikh @nine @JONB @TekNiKo @Shaolin23 @Armadillo @Cognitivedissonance
The original pirates of Somalis were Habar Magadle (Habar Awal/Garxajis) KKKkk looting and pillaging since the 16th century
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You can loot possessions of the enemy (disbelievers) in warfare.. but to loot other Muslims?!! That's forbidden in Islam. According to the author of Futuh Al Habasha, Habar Magaadle refused to pay the Zakat then immediately revolted and started a campaign of Looting and Pillaging other Muslims in the region which forced Ahmed Gurey to subjugate them into submission.
I'll have to skim through the book to find out if your findings are true, they have an English version correct? I'll guess I'll have to "loot" the local Library if this book is in stock, I'm not paying $35 bucks just to refute your statement.
This is the download link of the original Arabic text of the book.
https://archive.org/details/bahjatalzaman
There's no word for word English translation of the book. It's not on the internet but the Arabic text is everywhere as PDF and other file formats.
You shouldn't be on this forum debating grown ups if you're that emotional, kid. Your argument resorted to cussing, name calling and accusing me of derailing the thread following your humiliating loss of words for the evidence that I put forth regarding your tribe's Mooryanism history. The author of the book exposed your folk. Take that loss gracefully and move on.
All this fool posted was a picture and didn't manage to bring me a proper link but told me to download which doesn't mention anything of download which proves you all along that he was a liar.
Yes, there is an English version and it's the most famous and authentic one. It doesn't mention anything bullshit he stated. According to the original text of Futuh Al-Habasha: The Conquest of Abyssinia that Habar Magaadle were part of Adal Sultanate and the first army to join Ahmed Gurey. Producing one of the strongest generals in Adal Sultanate and being praised for their loyalty and bravery by Imam Ahmed Gurey. That's all it says, nothing else.
Here: https://books.google.co.uk/books?id...ved=0ahUKEwiM0ePjpofcAhWSOcAKHZ04CboQ6AEIKTAA
I suggest you use Archive.org (search for text). No Need to buy it.
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Why are you arguing with me if you can't read Arabic?!! Aabahaa wase learn the original language of the book before you accuse me of lying.
Good looking out, never knew about archive.org. I use to have a scribd account, didn't really pay for hard copies
You're a lying son of a . That's what you are, now shove it up in your ass and don't quote me again. Getting fake info from Somnet LMFAO!
I'm fluent in Arabic, it's not about that. It's about you trolling with your bullshit. At the end of the day, the original text of Futuh Al-Habasha doesn't state that so take your cuqdad ridden crap elsewhere!
Do you notice how the borders of DDSI are basically the borders Absame have with Oromo? The Hawiye and Dir who used to live between Absame and Oromo basically became Oromo.
Usually there are cultural continuums between ethnic groups as similar as Somalis and Oromos. But the process of Oromization is almost totally complete among many of the Dir and Hawiye such that entire subclans cannot speak Somali. The Maalinguur in Fiiq speak the same accent as I do in Mudug and 20 miles west the Karanle cannot even speak Somali! Literally no continuum at all! No gradual shift in accent, or a change in culture etc.. you leave Fiiq and you basically hit a full blown Oromia.
Learn Arabic jaahilkii ku dhalay wase. I gave you the download link of the book and told you the exact page of my evidence 13/130.You're a lying son of a . That's what you are, now shove it up in your ass and don't quote me again. Getting fake info from Somnet LMFAO!
I'm fluent in Arabic, it's not about that. It's about you trolling with your bullshit. At the end of the day, the original text of Futuh Al-Habasha doesn't state that so take your cuqdad ridden crap elsewhere!
The only thing known about Ahmed Gurey is that his sister was married to Garaad Matan of the Geri Koombe, and that his widow married Nur ibn Mujahid, the ancestor of the Ina Nuur subclan of the Marehan.
This man is the great great great etc.. nephew of Ahmed Gurey, that is an undisputed fact. However it tells you nothing about what clan Ahmed Gurey himself was.
I know Arabic but the link you gave me has many books. You could've given me an exact link but instead lied and said download when there was no need since you can go into many books and pages that easily without any download. You basically think I'm an idiot?
Sorry, keep your fake pictures from Somnet over there. Your insults are meaningless and a reflection of you. Now don't quote me again you liar.
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